Hi, me again, just another thread about WTC 7

Started by Sandai Kitetsu7 pages

Originally posted by lord xyz
Because it was falling fast, the floors above were very heavy, the pressure inside was very high, and all of that was increasing!

You're arguing that there wasn't enough force for it to happen. You cannot know that. There are things to suggest there was though.


What pressure, what are you guys talking about. The towers were not air tight or pressurized. And, if they were, the pressure should have dissipated after having planes slammed into them creating huge craters. So, what are you talking about.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
What pressure, what are you guys talking about. The towers were not air tight or pressurized. And, if they were, the pressure should have dissipated after having planes slammed into them creating huge craters. So, what are you talking about.

The inside of the towers, the pressure from the floors falling on top of one another. Its very complicated for my to explain in on here in just words but if you look at the structure of the WTC 1 and 2 you will understand what I mean when they fell straight down.

Pressure from the impact of floors cannot blast steel girders 100 of feet, Send 22 ton piece of the outerwall flying across town, or send 330 ton piece of the wall (heavier than the plane) flying.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
What pressure, what are you guys talking about. The towers were not air tight or pressurized. And, if they were, the pressure should have dissipated after having planes slammed into them creating huge craters. So, what are you talking about.
No pressure? You're kidding right? how did the windows blast out? Oh right, you think they're squibs.

The entire outer wall was blasted off, your telling me pressure from falling floors could do that? How could that much pressure build up anyway, and if it that why did it remain after there was a gashing hole in both towers?

I'm not an expert, but bombs is just stupid.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm not an expert, but bombs is just stupid.

Makes more sense than air pressure from floors breaking off pieces of the outer wall that is bigger than the plane. 😬

You don't have to be an expert, just use facts and common sense. Just because an expert tells you something, doesn't mean it's true.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Makes more sense than air pressure from floors breaking off pieces of the outer wall that is bigger than the plane. 😬

You don't have to be an expert, just use facts and common sense. Just because an expert tells you something, doesn't mean it's true.

well we don't mean air pressure...I mean more...along the lines of..I guess weight type pressure? lol I Don't think it would make things fly UP and over, but maybe to the side and then downward maybe. Looser debris may go flying like that, but something 22 tons...I don't think that should go that far lol Also...I find it funny the line "Just because an expert tells you something, Doesn't mean its true." when many people on threads like this claim "Experts in demolition claim so and so" and "Experts in blah blah blah say so-and-so" I would quote them but...I don't really feel like it now...

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Makes more sense than air pressure from floors breaking off pieces of the outer wall that is bigger than the plane. 😬

You don't have to be an expert, just use facts and common sense. Just because an expert tells you something, doesn't mean it's true.

I'm not the person you should be saying that to. Really.

Originally posted by Korosan
well we don't mean air pressure...I mean more...along the lines of..I guess weight type pressure? lol I Don't think it would make things fly UP and over, but maybe to the side and then downward maybe. Looser debris may go flying like that, but something 22 tons...I don't think that should go that far lol Also...I find it funny the line "Just because an expert tells you something, Doesn't mean its true." when many people on threads like this claim "Experts in demolition claim so and so" and "Experts in blah blah blah say so-and-so" I would quote them but...I don't really feel like it now...
Yeah, it is air pressure, but air pressure can do that. Ever heard of hurricanes? And, the towers are heavy, it was falling fast, that is a lot of force, considering the towers are fairly narrow, that is a lot of pressure.

Are you seriously comparing the impact from the floors to hurrican force winds?!

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Are you seriously comparing the impact from the floors to hurrican force winds?!
No, what I said. I guess I really should have made them seperate paragraphs and not use and, oh well.

Sigh, pressure is different from just gravity.

"Pressure" is generally with an enclosed or closed enviornment. We know pretty much how air pressure works and the such I assume.

Mass that falls on top of one another without a closed enviornment does NOT work under the same principles as pressure in a closed environment.

Totally different ideas you are talking about. I do not want to go into some grand explaination since I am no professor and no one would listen for like of a degree, but whatever. You do not need it to explain this but yea...

Originally posted by chithappens
Sigh, pressure is different from just gravity.

"Pressure" is generally with an enclosed or closed enviornment. We know pretty much how air pressure works and the such I assume.

Mass that falls on top of one another without a closed enviornment does NOT work under the same principles as pressure in a closed environment.

Totally different ideas you are talking about. I do not want to go into some grand explaination since I am no professor and no one would listen for like of a degree, but whatever. You do not need it to explain this but yea...

Yeah, it was closed.

oh god THIS is still going on? for the last freaking time,your not going to have blds collapse DOWNWARDS in the same freefall manner those buildings did the same way blds do when explosions are used to bring down blds just to a mere fire collapse due to jet fuel fire and a jet in the building.for the last freaking time,the top half of the south tower clearly is seen TIPPING sideways before it comes spiraling downwards.the antenna on the south tower is seen clearly TILTING sideways before it reverses its direction and comes back and caves in on the top.for the last freaking time,to believe that it fell just due to a fire is being plain ignorant because AGAIN,you are ignoring the LAWS OF SCIENCE THAT SCIENTISTS HAVE GONE BY FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS that the antenna SHOULD have CONTINUED to topple sideways like it was instead of reversing its direction coming back and caving in. 🙄 thats totally inconsistant with the rules of gravity.the ONLY way your going to have it reverse its direction like it did and come backwards and cave in like that is if you use explosives to bring it backwards like that.AGAIN the reason there is a controversy over it is because demolition experts around the country knew that bombs were planted because thats the way towers fall in demolitons.they DONT in a mere fire collapse.

and AGAIN,your also ignoring the people that have gone on to these 9-11events around the country that have been saying they have had death threats given to their familys if they talk about bombs being set off in the buildings. 🙄 god you guys who say that bombs didnt go off are as bad as the people who say oswald was the lone assassin who ignore the points that witnesses saw gunmen shooting behind the picket fence.jesus.

[QUOTE=9517884]Originally posted by Fire Ninja
[B]No, it doesn't, I've been to that website several times. Read there articles, and brought up counter points. You can't just link a website, and act as if everything is refuted. Debate by bringing up points, like how does a gravitational collapse cause girders to fly hundreds of feet hitting wtc 7 and creates a fire?

it sure as hell doesnt debunk that bombs went off.I been to that site as well and its a joke and easy to debunk their claims like many people like you have.yeah thats what they cant explain,the pressurized theory of girders is pathetic and holds no water about the girders flying. and like you said,causing it to hit wt7 and cause a fire.plus again the thing that shoots down this theory that bombs were not planted is the guy that worked for Guiana going in there saying to one of guina's co workers-okay I am here in Ralphs office but he's not here.Nobody is here and then the guy on the cell phone says-He's not there,nobody is there? get out now.fast,they are about to pull that building.who is going to pull the building down? the fire? yeah right. 😆 this guy has told many investigaters his story.yet you wont hear it reported on the nightly news. if it doesnt go along with their made up version,they dont want to hear it.thats the way of the media.

Originally posted by Korosan
well we don't mean air pressure...I mean more...along the lines of..I guess weight type pressure? lol I Don't think it would make things fly UP and over, but maybe to the side and then downward maybe. Looser debris may go flying like that, but something 22 tons...I don't think that should go that far lol Also...I find it funny the line "Just because an expert tells you something, Doesn't mean its true." when many people on threads like this claim "Experts in demolition claim so and so" and "Experts in blah blah blah say so-and-so" I would quote them but...I don't really feel like it now...

I think what he means by that is the so called EXPERTS who toot the governments horn on how the buildings collapsed are people who's companys they work for,have government contracts so all the people in high power within the government got to do is offer their government employees a better higher paying position and pay them off. I find it just a little too coincidental that there are a lot of people around the country getting fired from their jobs when they say our government was behind the dissaster and yet people who toot the horn of the offical version of the government are getting hefty pay raises over it.just another one of those coincidental things thats just a little bit too coincidental. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Parker
oh god THIS is still going on? for the last freaking time,your not going to have blds collapse DOWNWARDS in the same freefall manner those buildings did the same way blds do when explosions are used to bring down blds just to a mere fire collapse due to jet fuel fire and a jet in the building.for the last freaking time,the top half of the south tower clearly is seen TIPPING sideways before it comes spiraling downwards.the antenna on the south tower is seen clearly TILTING sideways before it reverses its direction and comes back and caves in on the top.for the last freaking time,to believe that it fell just due to a fire is being plain ignorant because AGAIN,you are ignoring the LAWS OF SCIENCE THAT SCIENTISTS HAVE GONE BY FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS that the antenna SHOULD have CONTINUED to topple sideways like it was instead of reversing its direction coming back and caving in. 🙄 thats totally inconsistant with the rules of gravity.the ONLY way your going to have it reverse its direction like it did and come backwards and cave in like that is if you use explosives to bring it backwards like that.AGAIN the reason there is a controversy over it is because demolition experts around the country knew that bombs were planted because thats the way towers fall in demolitons.they DONT in a mere fire collapse.

and AGAIN,your also ignoring the people that have gone on to these 9-11events around the country that have been saying they have had death threats given to their familys if they talk about bombs being set off in the buildings. 🙄 god you guys who say that bombs didnt go off are as bad as the people who say oswald was the lone assassin who ignore the points that witnesses saw gunmen shooting behind the picket fence.jesus.

You trying to imitate Ushgarak is cute, but more pathetic.

1. The buildings DIDN'T fall in free fall manner. But hey, Alex Jones said so, it must be true.

2. I can't be bothered to read the rest of your post, just some immature ramplings I bet.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
[QUOTE=9517884]Originally posted by Fire Ninja
[B]No, it doesn't, I've been to that website several times. Read there articles, and brought up counter points. You can't just link a website, and act as if everything is refuted. Debate by bringing up points, like how does a gravitational collapse cause girders to fly hundreds of feet hitting wtc 7 and creates a fire?

it sure as hell doesnt debunk that bombs went off.I been to that site as well and its a joke and easy to debunk their claims like many people like you have.yeah thats what they cant explain,the pressurized theory of girders is pathetic and holds no water about the girders flying. and like you said,causing it to hit wt7 and cause a fire.plus again the thing that shoots down this theory that bombs were not planted is the guy that worked for Guiana going in there saying to one of guina's co workers-okay I am here in Ralphs office but he's not here.Nobody is here and then the guy on the cell phone says-He's not there,nobody is there? get out now.fast,they are about to pull that building.who is going to pull the building down? the fire? yeah right. 😆 this guy has told many investigaters his story.yet you wont hear it reported on the nightly news. if it doesnt go along with their made up version,they dont want to hear it.thats the way of the media.

Why don't you quote my post instead? OR are you too afraid to be called an idiot, you'd rather congradulate him. I'd say you're bias, but that doesn't count your mental illness or your stupidity. You don't look at the post replying to it, or the post it's replying to. Any intelligent person would do that. I don't even know how you can't see how stupid you're being. Really. I can't.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yeah, it was closed.

Despite having window, doors, shafts, and A GIANT HOLE FROM THE IMPACT OF THE PLANE?

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Come on guys, Life is too short to be annoyed at xyz.