Originally posted by Air Legend
Beyonder would think Lucifer out of existence. Has Lucifer even wiped anything out of existence?
Anyways this is a spite thread in Beyonder's favor. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
Lucifer would convince the Beyonder that he's white trash and that he's not worth existing in the same universe, so he kills himself. Lucifer doesn't even have to lift a finger.
Spite Thread in Lucifers favor. Only an idiot would think otherwise. I wonder what toaa/presence would think? hmmm.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Hey nvr, who do you think would win?
I dont' know if Lucifer has the raw power to beat the PR beyonder. But I know that PR beyonder sure as hell doesn't have the power to beat Lucifer. He isn't more powerful than Michael, and Lucifer takes that energy full to the face and shapes it to his own will. Lucifer will win purely on skill. That is his character. the PR beyonder was a dummy to the highest order.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' know if Lucifer has the raw power to beat the PR beyonder. But I know that PR beyonder sure as hell doesn't have the power to beat Lucifer. He isn't more powerful than Michael, and Lucifer takes that energy full to the face and shapes it to his own will. Lucifer will win purely on skill. That is his character. the PR beyonder was a dummy to the highest order.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Well you said in the earlier post that Beyonder was omnipotent, so you think Lucifer has a chance at beating an omnipotent being?
I never said PR was Omnipotent. I have never thought he was. He was an idiot. I've always said he wasn't omnipotent becuz he was only millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse. He also wasn't able to wipe moleculeman off the map or kill death with ease. he also couldn't bring her back on his own. he wasn't omnipotent. And The LT is more powerful than the Pr Beyonder and I know for sure Lucifer can beat him. Who is I guess another lvl of marvel's stupid omnipotent lvls. I never heard of Omnipotent beings who run around getting absorbed and beat up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' know if Lucifer has the raw power to beat the PR beyonder. But I know that PR beyonder sure as hell doesn't have the power to beat Lucifer. He isn't more powerful than Michael, and Lucifer takes that energy full to the face and shapes it to his own will. Lucifer will win purely on skill. That is his character. the PR beyonder was a dummy to the highest order.
Exactly! he convinces that dumbass beyonder to kill himself because he's a waste of space in the cosmos.
beyonder was hardly omnipotent, much less omnicient... how could you be omnipotent if you have a power already defined for you? Millions of Time more powerful than the entire multiverse? ya ok... so i guess that Makes the TOAA Billions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.... Now i expect a being to come in the future that'll be Trillions of times more powerful than the multiverse, watch out TOAA! =/
Beyonder fanboys
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I never said PR was Omnipotent. I have never thought he was. He was an idiot. I've always said he wasn't omnipotent becuz he was only millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse. He also wasn't able to wipe moleculeman off the map or kill death with ease. he also couldn't bring her back on his own. he wasn't omnipotent. And The LT is more powerful than the Pr Beyonder and I know for sure Lucifer can beat him. Who is I guess another lvl of marvel's stupid omnipotent lvls. I never heard of Omnipotent beings who run around getting absorbed and beat up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nothing is Logically impossible to an "omnipotent" being.
Anyways, your post above this one contains so many circle bullshit statements you. If you keep using "retardedhwiafieu" logic, I'm going to post a bunch of the same about the Presence with proof.
Lucifer survived a creation destroying blast containing an infinite amount of power without even being affected and afterwards shaped the infinite power into a Multiverse .
He is the second strongest being in creation along Michael .
He is a lot smarter and more cunning than Beyonder so chances is he would beat him without actually using his power.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Never said he was omnipotent?Anyways, your post above this one contains so many circle bullshit statements you. If you keep using "[B]retarded
hwiafieu" logic, I'm going to post a bunch of the same about the Presence with proof. [/B]
Obviously you aren't a scholare. The quotes are supposed to be to make fun of him being called omnipotent. I'm sure everyone else got it. Since you don't understand that, there is no need in even bothering with the rest of your post.
Originally posted by rico777
Lucifer would convince the Beyonder that he's white trash and that he's not worth existing in the same universe, so he kills himself. Lucifer doesn't even have to lift a finger.Spite Thread in Lucifers favor. Only an idiot would think otherwise. I wonder what toaa/presence would think? hmmm.
Originally posted by rico777
beyonder was hardly omnipotent, much less omnicient... how could you be omnipotent if you have a power already defined for you? Millions of Time more powerful than the entire multiverse? ya ok... so i guess that Makes the TOAA Billions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.... Now i expect a being to come in the future that'll be Trillions of times more powerful than the multiverse, watch out TOAA! =/
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I never said PR was Omnipotent. I have never thought he was. He was an idiot. I've always said he wasn't omnipotent becuz he was only millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse. He also wasn't able to wipe moleculeman off the map or kill death with ease. he also couldn't bring her back on his own. he wasn't omnipotent. And The LT is more powerful than the Pr Beyonder and I know for sure Lucifer can beat him. Who is I guess another lvl of marvel's stupid omnipotent lvls. I never heard of Omnipotent beings who run around getting absorbed and beat up.
This is a response to Beyonder was only "millions of times more powerful than the rest of the multiverse combined" since it's obvious they both haven't read the comic book. These guys are using the "erik technique," they talk about one sentence and forget about the next (or forget to turn the page in Erik's case 😆 )
If you continue reading it says "He rejoices at the return of omnipotence!" Was the Beyonder omnipotent? ✅
The reason they used "millions of times more" is because the comic book writers have to consider their audience. A lot of the people buying their comic books are twelve year old kids who don't know the meaning of omnipotence, what the word signifies. So when they wrote Beyonder was millions of times more powerful, the kids are like "oh he was very powerful." The writers ended by saying the Beyonder was omnipotent, for the people that understand what the word means.
As for the Beyonder wasn't omnipotent because he didn't "blink them out of existence", that is one of the worst arguments one can make. An omnipotent being wouldn't always choose to "blink things" into whatever, especially in a COMIC BOOK! I wonder how the sales would have turned out if Beyonder blinked everything out of existence lmao.
Originally posted by Air Legend
This coming from the person who has at most 1/30 of quanchi's intelligence 😆This is a response to Beyonder was only "millions of times more powerful than the rest of the multiverse combined" since it's obvious they both haven't read the comic book. These guys are using the "erik technique," they talk about one sentence and forget about the next (or forget to turn the page in Erik's case 😆 )
Was the Beyonder omnipotent? ✅
If you continue reading it says "He rejoices at the return of [B]omnipotence!"
The reason they used "millions of times more" is because the comic book writers have to consider their audience. A lot of the people buying their comic books are twelve year old kids who don't know the meaning of omnipotence, what the word signifies. So when they wrote Beyonder was millions of times more powerful, the kids are like "oh he was very powerful." The writers ended by saying the Beyonder was omnipotent, for the people that understand what the word means.As for the Beyonder wasn't omnipotent because he didn't "blink them out of existence", that is one of the worst arguments one can make. An omnipotent being wouldn't always choose to "blink things" into whatever, especially in a COMIC BOOK! I wonder how the sales would have turned out if Beyonder blinked everything out of existence lmao. [/B]
You think that Quanchi is intellegent? hahaha that was the stupid thing that anybody has ever said on this forum. Lets make a poll... lets see whose the stupidest around here, hey for kicks why dont we add you in there, who knows maybe people will think you're right behind quanchi.
oh and your scan of the beyonder doesn't help your case at all.... Ya he already has a quantifiable number set for him as his power goes. Your explanation of little kids being excited that he's millions of times more powerful doesn't count worth shit here. It says on panel what his power limit is. But if you have proof that the writers actually meant what you were saying, then please go ahead and show it.. otherwise you're entire argument is bullshit, which i'm sure you already know that it is.
As for your omnipotent argument. There's levels of omnipotency in Marvel. The possessor of the IG was said to be omnipotent, do you believe that he could beat the pre-beyonder? a person possessing CC's were said to be omnipotent, do you believe that the LT couldn't beat them? Thanos w/HOTU is omnipotent, but it seems that you believe that the pre-beyonder could beat him too... why not just add that ihe could beat the TOAA.
your arguments fall short... and your insults are even worse. Now i dont believe that your an idiot like i do with quanchi. I just believe that your confused about the information of the beyonder.
But answer me those questions.
Originally posted by rico777
You think that Quanchi is intellegent? hahaha that was the stupid thing that anybody has ever said on this forum. Lets make a poll... lets see whose the stupidest around here, hey for kicks why dont we add you in there, who knows maybe people will think you're right behind quanchi.
Originally posted by rico777
oh and your scan of the beyonder doesn't help your case at all.... Ya he already has a quantifiable number set for him as his power goes. Your explanation of little kids being excited that he's millions of times more powerful doesn't count worth shit here. It says on panel what his power limit is. But if you have proof that the writers actually meant what you were saying, then please go ahead and show it.. otherwise you're entire argument is bullshit, which i'm sure you already know that it is.
Originally posted by rico777
As for your omnipotent argument. There's levels of omnipotency. The possessor of the IG was said to be omnipotent, do you believe that he could beat the pre-beyonder? a person possession CC's were said to be omnipotent, do you believe that the LT couldn't beat them? Thanos w/HOTU is omnipotent, but it seems that you believe that the pre-beyonder could beat him too... why not just add that ihe could beat the TOAA.
Originally posted by rico777
your arguments fall short...
Originally posted by rico777
and your insults are even worse. Now i dont believe that your an idiot like i do with quanchi. I just believe that your confused about the information of the beyonder.
Originally posted by rico777
But answer me those questions.
Originally posted by Air Legend
This proves your lack of intelligence. Saying you are 30 times dumber than quanchi is the same as saying you have 1/30th of quanchi's intelligence except the latter sounds nicer, but I didn't expect you to get that since you clearly don't know elementary math.When they ended with "he rejoiced at the return of omnipotence" but I didn't expect you to get that either since you don't know how to read.
All those people with omnipotence that you mentioned didn't exist back then. There was no "level of omnipotence" back then, making your argument null and void like always.
And when the hell did I say Beyonder would beat Thanos w/ HOTI? This just shows that you are also a liar.🙄 You mean yours does?
Please don't flatter yourself. Like Mr Master said: I hear ignorance is blissful.
Yup, I did, but I don't expect you to get it.
so you never fully answered the question of why it says that he was Millions of Times more powerful than the multiverse. Where's your proof that the writers only wrote this so that kids would know that the Beyonder was "REALLY" powerful? of course, you dont have anything proving this. This is only your word, and of course if you believe it then its true!
So please tell me who you think can beat the Pre-Beyonder, i want to know your stance on this. But you can't sit there and tell me that just because one says that a certain artifact or being is omnipotent, thats the end all be all. Like i said, IG was said to be omnipotent, the weilder of CC was said to be omnipotent, the LT is said to be omnipotent. But each of these beings or artifacts that i have listed have all been beaten, so much for being omnipotent. Now i'm happy that you believe that the Pre-beyonder wont beat Thanos w/ HOTI, because THanos then was actually omnipotent, unlike the beyonder was. Air Legend, what makes Thanos /w HOTI and the pre-beyonder different? when both are said to be omnipotent!
Originally posted by rico777
so you never fully answered the question of why it says that he was Millions of Times more powerful than the multiverse. Where's your proof that the writers only wrote this so that kids would know that the Beyonder was "REALLY" powerful? of course, you dont have anything proving this. This is only your word, and of course if you believe it then its true!
Originally posted by rico777
So please tell me who you think can beat the Pre-Beyonder, i want to know your stance on this.
Originally posted by rico777
But you can't sit there and tell me that just because one says that a certain artifact or being is omnipotent, thats the end all be all. Like i said, IG was said to be omnipotent, the weilder of CC was said to be omnipotent, the LT is said to be omnipotent. But each of these beings or artifacts that i have listed have all been beaten, so much for being omnipotent.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Ok I'll talk to you like a baby and then you might understand it. Do millions of times more powerful and omnipotence go well together? No. When an author is writing something and wants to make a point, what is MORE important, the way he begins it or the way he ends it? The way he ends it of course. Poetry has many good examples of this. Lets say the author begins his story on a happy tone using cheerful diction to describe, say the weather. Then halfway the author notes that all was not what it seems, and starts using negative connotations like the grimy, dull, muddy, and gloomy. Lets say the author ends the description of that weather on that tone. Now what was the author really trying to tell his readers? That the weather was blissful, serene, and magical? Or that the place was not what it seemed and rather a very uncomfortable place to be? The latter of course.
But this is just comic books and when a comic book writer wants to make a point across, the way he ends it is more important. He ended with the word omnipotence, making the phrase "millions of times more powerful" inconsequential and used just as a literary techinique to excite the reader.
Eh, I didn't talk to you like a baby because I really can't, it's not as effective and can be rather time consuming because you have to find the right words to say. If you don't get what I'm saying, well that's too bad because I don't want to take the time to explain it in similar terms.Beyonder was a supreme character (various mentions of him being supreme throughout the secret wars series) that had the power of the writer who was at the time the editor in chief. Really he would only be beaten if the writer deemed it that way, but since people here don't like to argue against the power of writers, I say he stalemates any other supreme character and defeats anything less than supreme.
No, but I can sit here and tell you that there was no level of omnipotence in Marvel back then.
I didn't know that you took Comic Book writing 101 =/ But all joking aside a comic book is hardly a poem, and they dont write them that way either.
So now you mean to tell me that Marvel has 3 supreme beings? TOAA, Thanos /w HOTI and Pre-Beyonder? Please correct me if i'm wrong in my assumption. I'm my opinion as i mentioned earlier, he was hardly supreme. But he definitely did seem that way after the LT and every other cosmic being couldn't do shit to him. Thanos /w HOTI can take him on and beat him, of course this is what i believe and i'm sure that others do too.
Anyways its obvious that we're not going to agree on this. It's just going to keep going in circles and honestly i think we're both getting tired of it. YOu believe that Pre-Beyonder will win, fine! I believe that Lucifer will win.
I'm going to let the others debate here. Galan and Juntai who do you believe would win? i'm interested in your opinion.
Originally posted by rico777no he wouldnt. he only schools the tards in dc who are easy to fool.
Lucifer would convince the Beyonder that he's white trash and that he's not worth existing in the same universe, so he kills himself. Lucifer doesn't even have to lift a finger.Spite Thread in Lucifers favor. Only an idiot would think otherwise. I wonder what toaa/presence would think? hmmm.
take a look at the spectre. he was going to kill himself in dov if he succeeded. 😆
the presence has some real geniuses in his corner huh?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlbeyonder had more raw power indeed than lucifer. for sure. he crushes him. game over for lucy.
I dont' know if Lucifer has the raw power to beat the PR beyonder. But I know that PR beyonder sure as hell doesn't have the power to beat Lucifer. He isn't more powerful than Michael, and Lucifer takes that energy full to the face and shapes it to his own will. Lucifer will win purely on skill. That is his character. the PR beyonder was a dummy to the highest order.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherrwhat is lucifer a con man. how is he going to beat the beyonder without using his power? this is beyond ridicuolus.
Lucifer survived a creation destroying blast containing an infinite amount of power without even being affected and afterwards shaped the infinite power into a Multiverse .
He is the second strongest being in creation along Michael .
He is a lot smarter and more cunning than Beyonder so chances is he would beat him without actually using his power.
and what is this the second in creation alongside michael? are the first two spots ties.
so there is no true number 1 or number 2 guy in dc.
its presense and geb at number 1.
number 2 is mikey and lucey
Originally posted by rico777who cares what juntai and galan think? make up ur mind on ur own and quit asking others to make up ur mind for u please.
I didn't know that you took Comic Book writing 101 =/ But all joking aside a comic book is hardly a poem, and they dont write them that way either.So now you mean to tell me that Marvel has 3 supreme beings? TOAA, Thanos /w HOTI and Pre-Beyonder? Please correct me if i'm wrong in my assumption. I'm my opinion as i mentioned earlier, he was hardly supreme. But he definitely did seem that way after the LT and every other cosmic being couldn't do shit to him. Thanos /w HOTI can take him on and beat him, of course this is what i believe and i'm sure that others do too.
Anyways its obvious that we're not going to agree on this. It's just going to keep going in circles and honestly i think we're both getting tired of it. YOu believe that Pre-Beyonder will win, fine! I believe that Lucifer will win.
I'm going to let the others debate here. Galan and Juntai who do you believe would win? i'm interested in your opinion.
ps dont be a robot or a lemming.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
People are so dumb if they think lucifer only took a multiversal lvl blast. You idiots, Lucifer took the blast that was a CREATION blast and created a multiverse becuz he thought that was the limit of God's creation. He was trying to be like God. He didn't realize that he could have made an omniverse until later when he found out about all the other multiverses out there. Dummies.
How do you know that the demiurgic power within Michael can create an omniverse? Is this speculation or can you prove it? Just curious.
