PR Beyonder vs. Lucifer Morningstar

Originally posted by quanchi112
u shouldnt post ur opinion and then at the end ask someone else if they agree with u.

it looks bad.

I dont actually post my biased opinions as fact! But from what i've seen i do believe that Lucy can beat the Beyonder here, Beyonder can't destroy Lucy since Beyonders most powerful blast on panel was a multiversal detsroying one, and Lucy has already survived one of that magnitude.

But i'd also like to know what others think on the subject. Unlike you i dont ignore other peoples opinions and evidence just because i dont like it. Who knows, maybe my mind might change. I used to think that the Pre-beyonder was more powerful or equal to than Thanos /w HOTI, but with the evidence that Mr.Master provided in the past, i believe that THanos /w HOTI is >> Beyonder.

Originally posted by rico777
I dont actually post my biased opinions as fact! i do believe that Lucy can beat the Beyonder here.

But i'd also like to know what others think on the subject. Unlike you i dont ignore other peoples opinions and evidence just because i dont like it. Who knows, maybe my mind might change. I used to think that the Pre-beyonder was more powerful than Thanos /w HOTI, but with the evidence that Mr.Master provided in the past, i believe that THanos /w HOTI is >> Beyonder.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
There is no omniverse in DC. And all of Michael's power made a multiverse and nothing more. Erik just likes to lie a lot.

Oh really? So when Superman saved the Omniverse what was that? I guess you put your foot in your mouth.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh really? So when Superman saved the Omniverse what was that? I guess you put your foot in your mouth.

how does that feel.

dc is run by a being lower than a skyfather.

see how much weaker dc is than marvel.

this isnt me being biased its how it is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u cant even comprehend comics. i dont tell u about anything anymore as u cant grasp it.

air legend had to go through scan by scan and tell u how it is.

This is funny shit right here. I can't comprehend comics?? Your the one that can't comprehend it, the only reason I debate you is to hopefully enlighten you on what the hell your talking about!! Air Legend didn't show me anything I DIDN'T already know, all CM had to do was have the will power to last a few seconds longer and he would have WON but he didn't cause he COULDN'T! All you do is listen to what someone else you *think* is right and adore and agree with him, it will probably take you years yes YEARS to understand DOV so good luck. The days of me trying to help your newbie ass along are over kid! Thank God

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Originally posted by kevdude
Air Legend didn't show me anything I DIDN'T already know, all CM had to do was have the will power to last a few seconds longer and he would have WON but he didn't cause he COULDN'T!

Originally posted by Air Legend
What are you talking about? Please read my second response. He did have the will power to do it.

Yup just read it and I again already knew all that. Yes he did say it would take some time to cook it out of him then the Spectre slammed him into the building. Turn the page and we see the fights pretty much over and the Spectre telling CM "You've fought well Marvel, but the outcome has already been written". Notice in the blue box's where 1 of the Shadowpact is talking to the reader or more likely talking to themselves "Now hes in the middle of a one-on-one throwdown with The Spectre--An immortal being so incalculably powerful that our mightiest mortals like a paraplegic child trying to go toe-to-toe with a heavyweight prizefighter". Turn the page again blue box "The Spectre is bleeding it (CM powers) dry so quickly, Marvels continued life span can be measured in a matter of seconds--double digits, at the most" The Spectre again telling Marvel to yield to his fate and to end the battle. Captain Marvel is about to lose his life if he does not yield then at that that time he gets his power boost.. Also you say he never had enough power to stop him, even CM states after the battle in the Oblivion Bar "You saved me Enchantress. It was you right? You fed more and more magic into me until I was stronger than Him". Surely he HAD the power but he was to worn from everything.. I think this will surely do 🙂

Originally posted by kevdude
Yup just read it and I again already knew all that. Yes he did say it would take some time to cook it out of him then the Spectre slammed him into the building. Turn the page and we see the fights pretty much over and the Spectre telling CM "You've fought well Marvel, but the outcome has already been written". Notice in the blue box's where 1 of the Shadowpact is talking to the reader or more likely talking to themselves "Now hes in the middle of a one-on-one throwdown with The Spectre--An immortal being so incalculably powerful that our mightiest mortals like a paraplegic child trying to go toe-to-toe with a heavyweight prizefighter". Turn the page again blue box "The Spectre is bleeding it (CM powers) dry so quickly, Marvels continued life span can be measured in a matter of seconds--double digits, at the most" The Spectre again telling Marvel to yield to his fate and to end the battle. Captain Marvel is about to lose his life if he does not yield then at that that time he gets his power boost.. Also you say he never had enough power to stop him, even CM states after the battle in the Oblivion Bar "You saved me Enchantress. It was you right? You fed more and more magic into me until I was stronger than Him". Surely he HAD the power but he was to worn from everything.. I think this will surely do 🙂

lucifer and heres reasons why.

as far as limitations go lucifer has a few, he is currently beyond a multiveral{multiple multiverses} character but not quite a megaversal one as that wud imply the power of the presence+GEB. he has created more than one multiverse without exerting himself and can exist independantly of them. he is beyond the endless and even beyond death who has no domain over him. he can actually kill death herself and even death was afraid of the threat and knew it to be true. he has survived multiverse shattering explosions without a scratch and create concepts like TIME from nothing.

beyonder on the other hand was more powerful than the marvel singular multiverse. in a sense. he could have destroyed it by creating an anomoly or time warp/paradox, but he wud have been destroyed himself. because as was stated clearly in his conversatiion with reed, even he can not survive the destruction of TIME. he was also beaten once by this mystical shaman dude on earth in a forestt{lesser known feat} by calling on some mystic powers of the universe. he actually killed and remade death who was afraid of him. in his dimension he was omnipotent. he easily showed greater powe than phoenix. and well he was far beyond abstracts. he even brushed off a scared looking LT. however in the end his power was chanelled by the molecule man into a universe.

overall, lucifer>>pre retconned beyonder.

beyonder was also very gullable, acting like a newborn baby who doesnt know anything, lucifer wud probably just manipulate him into killing himself. and lucifer IS omniscient, that is why he killed his clone and the two giants which had entered the city of heaven and had TOAA's power at the time. although like all things in comics, you shudnt take this as a measure of ULTIMATE knowledge, lucifer does know about the omniverse{and theres no such thing as a DC omniverse or any 1 comic book publisher omniverse. comic book realities at max can be a singular megaverse. everyhting other than that is just a play on words} but then again the eternal circle of god's above the presence is even out of lucifer/the voice's ability to comprehend. in short, NUTHING in comics can truly be ALL powerful or ALL knowing}

Most of the reason I don't line by line everything is because its already been explained or you should just reread DOV again so I don't have to waste my time for just a couple people when most of this board already gets it.. 😂

Back to this topic at hand. Lucifer is a good match for the Beyonder. Luci has beatin gods powerless in there own realms but I also heard that Doom tricked the Beyonder and got his powers but Beyonder was able to get them back that shows they are very smart. If Luci had no prep he would probably lose seeing he couldn't do anything to the Titans so he had to turn time back on them to kill them, if he did he might be able to do something like what he did to the Titans and turn The Beyonders powers on himself and make him go back to his dimension and forget about Lucifer, that would be the closest thing he could do to get a win. 😬

Originally posted by kevdude
Most of the reason I don't line by line everything is because its already been explained or you should just reread DOV again so I don't have to waste my time for just a couple people when most of this board already gets it.. 😂

Back to this topic at hand. Lucifer is a good match for the Beyonder. Luci has beatin gods powerless in there own realms but I also heard that Doom tricked the Beyonder and got his powers but Beyonder was able to get them back that shows they are very smart. If Luci had no prep he would probably lose seeing he couldn't do anything to the Titans so he had to turn time back on them to kill them, if he did he might be able to do something like what he did to the Titans and turn The Beyonders powers on himself and make him go back to his dimension and forget about Lucifer, that would be the closest thing he could do to get a win. 😬

Originally posted by kevdude
Most of the reason I don't line by line everything is because its already been explained or you should just reread DOV again so I don't have to waste my time for just a couple people when most of this board already gets it.. 😂

Originally posted by Air Legend
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You need to work on your reading comprehension (didn't I tell you this before?). You're having trouble comprehending a battle in a comic book; that's just sad.

😆 I'm not the one having trouble Air only you and Quanchi seem to not get it. Quit trying to belittle people over comic books when you are the one who's wrong!

Originally posted by kevdude
😆 I'm not the one having trouble Air only you and Quanchi seem to not get it. Quit trying to belittle people over comic books when you are the one who's wrong!

Dude you're the one that likes to hug the Spectre's you know what. You don't even give Captain Marvel credit for what he did. You're soooo biased when talking about the Spectre.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Dude you're the one that likes to hug the Spectre's you know what. You don't even give Captain Marvel credit for what he did. You're soooo biased when talking about the Spectre.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly what did captain marvel do? Lose? he sure as hell did nothing on his own.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Yea the Spectre won since winners retreat! lmao. If you say the Spectre won then admit the Anti-monitor won because while the Spectre was camatose the Anti-Monitor was still doing battle. Oh yeah and this was Spectre being fueled by the sorcerers lmao.

At any rate, The Spectre's victory was already determined. He accomplished what he set out to do. And even then, He beat the Shazam, and Nabu. Proof that CM must have had more than multiveral magic backing him to even do so well against the HOSTLESS spectre.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Spectre was comatose as a punishment. Didn't you know that? 😆 😆 😆

At any rate, The Spectre's victory was already determined. He accomplished what he set out to do. And even then, He beat the Shazam, and Nabu. Proof that CM must have had more than multiveral magic backing him to even do so well against the HOSTLESS spectre.

And the only reason you're riding the Spectre's nuts-sdvfksanfak is because you don't want him to have a low showing.

Amped up Captain Marvel while power coming in is >DOV Spectre. On panel and undebatable unless you have intransigence by your side, which you of course do.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Oh so now the Spectre's master is the Presence when you said not to long ago it was the voice 🙄
The Spectre was able to see stuff the Presence couldn't even dream of.

And the only reason you're riding the Spectre's nuts-sdvfksanfak is because you don't want him to have a low showing.

Amped up Captain Marvel while power coming in is >DOV Spectre. On panel and undebatable unless you have intransigence by your side, which you of course do.

The voice can punish the Spectre. did I say who punished him? nope. you fail.

DOV spectre is a beyond multiversal being who wasn't in God's graces. So i'm failing to see your point.