Rank in, generally, on the Claymore scale. Is he strong enough to be considered a single digit? If so, where would you place him?
Single digit? No way, not even close.
Flora, number 8, could simply windcutter him and win in one second. Jean's drill sword (number 9) would be way too much for him to defend against. Deneve and Helen when we met them could've beaten him quite solidly too, etc. etc..
Like, 20s-30s maybe.
Nah, I disagree. I still think he's around an 8.
He could easily dodge Jean's drill sword. He can move his blade fast enough and move fast enough to avoid windcutter.
I think Deneve would experience a masacre at his hand. Helen is fodder.
I think once we get to people like Rachel, he gets beaten. Similar or superior speed with strength that he cannot match.
He could easily dodge Jean's drill sword. He can move his blade fast enough and move fast enough to avoid windcutter.
Hah, he's shown nothing like that speed 🙂
I think Deneve would experience a masacre at his hand. Helen is fodder.
You're completely overlooking that even basic Claymore are superhuman across the board in speed, strength, etc., and that said characters also have great skill with a sword, aren't you?
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Raki's cool now and all, but he simply hasn't shown that much power.
Originally posted by Q99
Hah, he's shown nothing like that speed 🙂
Nah, he has. He fought decently against the new twins...they were not quite 1s yet, but were decently powered than most single digits.
Originally posted by Q99
You're completely overlooking that even basic Claymore are superhuman across the board in speed, strength, etc., and that said characters also have great skill with a sword, aren't you?
And he can keep up with them. 🙂
Don't forget that the weakest of them, Clare, had difficulty with a few Yoma. He can slay them with ease. He also can slay the rod Yoma, which were getting the better of some decent Claymore.
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Originally posted by Q99
Raki's cool now and all, but he simply hasn't shown that much power.
I disagree. I think you're low-balling him. He should be higher but he lacks a special "super" skill that all single digits have. If he had one, then he could contend for a low position in top 5. 🙂
Really...You guys would rank Raki that high. Sure if he went through the Claymore procedure then maybe but I dont think he's even in the 20s let alone single digits.
Currently I'd put Raki at Clare's series start level..maybe slightly above that. The twins weren't really trying to kill him and Claymore's are already better then humans physically for the most part.
Totally with you, wakka 🙂
Don't forget that the weakest of them, Clare, had difficulty with a few Yoma. He can slay them with ease.
Clare handled most yoma with ease too, and even handled small groups without much problem on occasion. Beating low-ranking yoma isn't that hard, the only solo one she had problem with was the really old and strong one where she didn't have her sword, only weak normal blades.
Also don't forget with the twins, he only got a draw, they totally underestimated him because they didn't think he could fight, they were holding back due to him being human and thus couldn't kill him, and he had no yoma energy to read.
He had many advantages that don't apply to Claymore of the same strength level. And, of course, unlike a Claymore of the same strength level he can't simply release more yoma power to amp his strength, speed, or so on.
I disagree. I think you're low-balling him. He should be higher but he lacks a special "super" skill that all single digits have. If he had one, then he could contend for a low position in top 5.
Not even remotely. He doesn't have stats on that level. The top 5 are known for their ability to solo Awakened Ones and he's never fought a foe like that.
Miria pre-awakened phantom move was the level of a top-5, and she could handled the Twins when they not only didn't hold back but were using fully awakened mode. Her base states were well above their non-awakened levels before her phantom move.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Really...You guys would rank Raki that high. Sure if he went through the Claymore procedure then maybe but I dont think he's even in the 20s let alone single digits.
He was trained by Isley for years...so he does have his "sword-play" and "killing of Yoma" training from the organizatin, by proxy, from Isley....and probably then some because Isley was a remarkable swordsman in his heyday. ANd Raki can kill Yoma with ease and those awakened Rod-yoma things that game decent warriors trouble. He's no lower than 20...but no higher than 5. I am making an argument that he's around an 8.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Currently I'd put Raki at Clare's series start level..maybe slightly above that. The twins weren't really trying to kill him and Claymore's are already better then humans physically for the most part.
No, he's definitely stronger than that version of Clare because Clare almost died a few times against Yoma in the beginning and she had to activate (which is bad...because it makes it to where a Claymore will awaken, sooner) her Yoki.
He could have easily defeated the new twins who could do better than getting turned to mince-meat against the Zombie #1...which means they are definitely powerful and into the single digits (because even a #5 would be easily defeated by a #1).
Originally posted by Q99
Clare handled most yoma with ease too, and even handled small groups without much problem on occasion. Beating low-ranking yoma isn't that hard, the only solo one she had problem with was the really old and strong one where she didn't have her sword, only weak normal blades.Also don't forget with the twins, he only got a draw, they totally underestimated him because they didn't think he could fight, they were holding back due to him being human and thus couldn't kill him, and he had no yoma energy to read.
He had many advantages that don't apply to Claymore of the same strength level. And, of course, unlike a Claymore of the same strength level he can't simply release more yoma power to amp his strength, speed, or so on.
Actually, I don't see anything you bringing up as a legit reason to lower his potential ranking, at all.
His feat against the twins is legit. You can discredit it all you want...but...at that point, they were already going against the organization. Why arbitrarily still adhere to rules that might save their lives? Sure, they were testing him...but he bested them and said he could have easily taken their swords.
Clare almost died against a group of Yoma (in the beginning of the series) and had to activate your Yoki to take them all out. Activating her Yoki is dangerous because it shortens her "life span" as a claymore.
Originally posted by Q99
Not even remotely. He doesn't have stats on that level. The top 5 are known for their ability to solo Awakened Ones and he's never fought a foe like that.
Do you have evidence for that?
Because I don't think you do.
I only know of one that was ranked 1 that routinely took on awakened beings on her own: Dust Eater. 😄
And she almost bit the dust against a strong one, by herself.
Almost always an awakened being hunt consists of a single digit.
Originally posted by Q99
Miria pre-awakened phantom move was the level of a top-5, and she could handled the Twins when they not only didn't hold back but were using fully awakened mode. Her base states were well above their non-awakened levels before her phantom move.
I think your point was lost there, in the beginning. Rephrase.
But, if I were to guess what you're talking about, you're talking about her against the NEW twins.
Miria, at that point, was not only better than most single digits, she is better than most #1s. They all came back "from the North" with abilities similar to that (but not as strong as) Theresa: the ability to move very quickly, suppress their yoki, and read others.
After reading through the arguments and reading those chapters again, I am fairly certain of an 8 for Raki.
He has the speed, swords skills, and strength to outmatch almost all Claymore...minus most of the top 10 of any generation.
Do you have evidence for that?Because I don't think you do.
I don't know of anything to indicate he's on that level.
None of his fights have shown stats that high, aside from his lack of a special move.
I only know of one that was ranked 1 that routinely took on awakened beings on her own: Dust Eater.
Ophelia did, and she was #4. We saw her solo a former single digit, not even just a normal awakened. Per the databook, that one was stronger than the male that took on Miria/Clare/Deneve/Helen that first time.
Miria also said she could've beaten Hilda, awakened #6, solo if she wanted to.
Rafaela and Galatea were stronger than her.
Not a single top 5 during Clare's time couldn't solo single-digit Awakeneds, let alone most awakeneds.
Miria, at that point, was not only better than most single digits, she is better than most #1s.
Probably not, no. Hysteria was flat-out pwning her until she got the Awakened Phantom Move. She wasn't able to do anything at all to a top #1.
She was maybe low-#1 level.
After reading through the arguments and reading those chapters again, I am fairly certain of an 8 for Raki.
8th is Flora level. Raki's shown nothing that'd indicate he could defend against a Windcutter type attack.
Originally posted by Q99
I don't know of anything to indicate he's on that level.None of his fights have shown stats that high, aside from his lack of a special move.
That's not the question I asked, though.
Originally posted by Q99
Ophelia did, and she was #4. We saw her solo a former single digit, not even just a normal awakened. Per the databook, that one was stronger than the male that took on Miria/Clare/Deneve/Helen that first time.Miria also said she could've beaten Hilda, awakened #6, solo if she wanted to.
To the first part...that was pre-"northern amped" for those four. 7 years later and those four are easily single digits. Additionally, the databook ranks are pretty much shit. And not just by a little: they are utter shit. Those databook ranks mean nothing when you have people like Clare doing decently against an awakened Ophelia. It's just stupid to see that when the rankings say that they have no chance in hell. To the point, however, Ophelia is never said to routinely hunt awakened beings, by herself. Only one was said to do that, regularly: however, I do remember it saying that ranks 1-5 are strong enough to take most on by themselves. Don't remember where I read that. So I concede that point.
And, I can see why Miria would say that: Hilda did not put up much of a fight. However, Miria definitely could not kill an awakened being, pre northern campaign, that was ranked in the top 10: the man-AB she fought was too strong for her and it wasn't a top 10.
Originally posted by Q99
Rafaela and Galatea were stronger than her.Not a single top 5 during Clare's time couldn't solo single-digit Awakeneds, let alone most awakeneds.
I am not sure what you mean on that last part. Do you mean that not a single top 5 COULD single a top single digit awakened being?
Of that, I would mostly agree. However, it really depends on the AB. A top 5 AB probably could not be taken down by any of Clare's generation (minus the twins). I find no example of this occurring. It would take a party to do this. Think about Dauf and Rigaldo.
Also, there's many more examples of hunting parties being used than not:
http://claymore.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Awakened_Being_Hunting_Party
There's a list of all the hunting parties used against ABs.
Originally posted by Q99
Probably not, no. Hysteria was flat-out pwning her until she got the Awakened Phantom Move. She wasn't able to do anything at all to a top #1.She was maybe low-#1 level.
No, she definitely was. It's not really something I consider debatable. Miria is easily a mid-range #1 by the time she takes on the Organization. If not higher.
She, of course, would have difficulty against the strongest former #1s, no doubt. I am not saying she's the strongest. She did better against one of the strongest #1s than all four of the hunting party did against Theresa (teehee) so that should indicate how much better she is than most #1s. Miria is definitely a #1 of any generation (how she is now) than all but the strongest 8.
Originally posted by Q99
8th is Flora level. Raki's shown nothing that'd indicate he could defend against a Windcutter type attack.
I disagree.
This is how I would rank Raki:
Yoki: E/NA
Agility: B
Muscular Strength: B
Spirit: A
Perception: B
Leadership: A
If you take the ranks as being an actual number....
(SSS being 1, SS 2, S 3, A 4, B 5, C 6, D 7, E 8)
Then you can arrive at his overall ranking.
8+5+5+4+5+4 = 31
Guess what Flora's total comes to? You guessed it: 31.
I promise, that was just a coincidence. But that at least shows how consistent I am being.
To be honest, Raki's perception may be an A due to his keen observations while with Priscilla, when shit was hitting the fan. That ties into his leadership, as well. His leadership is easily A...and may be his strongest point. He's much stronger than the humans around him stronger than many Claymore. His speed is enough to impress the soon-to-be #1s. And his perception is superb enough to rival most Claymore.
Additionally, the databook ranks are pretty much shit. And not just by a little: they are utter shit. Those databook ranks mean nothing when you have people like Clare doing decently against an awakened Ophelia.
Did you overlook how the Clare ranking is before she half-awakened and before she gained Yoki reading, let alone Quicksword?
That's utter, utter newbie Clare they statted, the one who almost died to a single non-awakened Yoma in Rabona. She got three major upgrades during that period (and Ophelia's human side was actively trying to help Clare and literally just seeing if Clare could chop her up before tiring rather than fighting back. Ophelia's highest stat, agility, went unused).
I disagree.This is how I would rank Raki:
Yoki: E/NA
Agility: B
Muscular Strength: B
Spirit: A
Perception: B
Leadership: AIf you take the ranks as being an actual number....
(SSS being 1, SS 2, S 3, A 4, B 5, C 6, D 7, E 8)
Then you can arrive at his overall ranking.
8+5+5+4+5+4 = 31
Guess what Flora's total comes to? You guessed it: 31.
Raki's got no Yoki perception at all remember, so put that at NA as well. Agility? He doesn't have any high speed feats and no speed special abilities, put a D there. Muscle, that's his best physical area and the one one he has real feats in, maybe C. Spirit, he has a lot of will but unlike a Claymore that doesn't grant him any special advantages (like being able to control partial-awakenings), so it doesn't matter too much to his actual combat ability. Leadership, well we've yet to actually seen him lead anyone, but at least that's plausible, he has a good tactical head. Personally I'd put him at B, Flora and Galatea's level, simply because the As have more experience.
Don't forget, every Claymore stat represents superhuman ability even at low levels. Agility B? That is Galatea level agility, #3.
B agility, or any B, is tremendously high, mostly for experienced Claymore. C is very significantly superhuman.
E means you can swing around a giant sword one-handed and leap about on rooftops. Raki can do the former fine but he hasn't even done the later.
And against any Claymore foe, he has the advantage that he has no yoki to sense and thus gets underestimated. He thus should perform better than his simple physical stats show.
Originally posted by Q99
Did you overlook how the Clare ranking is before she half-awakened and before she gained Yoki reading, let alone Quicksword?That's utter, utter newbie Clare they statted, the one who almost died to a single non-awakened Yoma in Rabona. She got three major upgrades during that period (and Ophelia's human side was actively trying to help Clare and literally just seeing if Clare could chop her up before tiring rather than fighting back. Ophelia's highest stat, agility, went unused).
I don't feel your post actually addressed what I said, at all.
Here are her ranks as she fought an awakened Ophelia:
youma energy E
Agility : E
Muscular strength : E
Spirit : D
Perception : C+
Leadership : E
She still has crap stats. Yet, she possess, at this point, enough power to fight against awakened beings as we see her clearly do in the Northern Campaign. Ergo, the stats are crap and make no sense.
Originally posted by Q99
Raki's got no Yoki perception at all remember, so put that at NA as well.
I disagree. You do not have to be able to have the ESP perception of Yoki in order to make determinations about Yoki...and perceive Youma. His perception is so keen that he is ahead of most Claymore. In his case, his perception is a familarity with Youma, habits, and quickly analyzing their behaviors.
Originally posted by Q99
Agility? He doesn't have any high speed feats and no speed special abilities, put a D there.
I disagree. His sword skills more than proved his agility was on par with any B we have seen.
Originally posted by Q99
Muscle, that's his best physical area and the one one he has real feats in, maybe C.
I was thinking about bumping it up to A, actually, not dropping it down.
Originally posted by Q99
Spirit, he has a lot of will but unlike a Claymore that doesn't grant him any special advantages (like being able to control partial-awakenings), so it doesn't matter too much to his actual combat ability.
But that does not work to dismiss the actual ranking.
Originally posted by Q99
Leadership, well we've yet to actually seen him lead anyone, but at least that's plausible, he has a good tactical head..
Except leading the cause against the organization (inside) after he was released from his cell, of course...and then his speeches. Obviously, he is a superb Leader. Maybe not on part with Miria, but certainly better than pretty much any other Claymore: claymore's a sh*t leaders for the most part.
Originally posted by Q99
Personally I'd put him at B, Flora and Galatea's level, simply because the As have more experience.
And Raki certainly has more experience with Awakened beings than most Claymore. On top of that, he appears to lead quite naturally. I may consider putting him at A+ if we get to see more of his leading at the organization.
Originally posted by Q99
Don't forget, every Claymore stat represents superhuman ability even at low levels. Agility B? That is Galatea level agility, #3.
That's incorrect, actually.
Agility: nope. We can see that, clearly, humans can do well there....better than many Claymore. 🙂
Perception: it is quite obvious that perception does not necessarily require the ESP version of it (i.e. Theresa's version of perception).
Leadership: This one is obvious.
Spirit: This one is also obvious.
Musclar Strength: Possibly this one is mostly superhuman. However, Raki appears to make multiple organization soliders look like chumps...but so does Guts in Berserk. So this is more like "Superhuman to most humans...except other humans that appear to be superhuman". It's all relative.
Yoki: This one is the only area that is truly unreachable by a plain human.
So based on those areas, there's really only one area that is truly unreachable by a human.
Originally posted by Q99
B agility, or any B, is tremendously high, mostly for experienced Claymore. C is very significantly superhuman.
I would say that A is tremendously high and B is high. C would be average for Claymore (#22, to be exact. 🙂 )
Raki can definitely go toe-to-toe with Claymore that have a B in agility.
Originally posted by Q99
E means you can swing around a giant sword one-handed and leap about on rooftops. Raki can do the former fine but he hasn't even done the later.
Agility does not necessarily mean only moving with your feet. However, he has done some quick footwork, as well.
Originally posted by Q99
And against any Claymore foe, he has the advantage that he has no yoki to sense and thus gets underestimated. He thus should perform better than his simple physical stats show.
That's not really accurate: the perception of Yoki for use in combat is very limited to people like Clare and Theresa. The rest just use it to perceive Youma or other Claymore being about...something Raki appears to do quite well...minus using ESP to do so (his would be better, btw). So, no, very few would be at a disadvantage against Raki specifically because of his missing yoki energy: hardly any use it in battle and that's almost an exclusive Theresa/Clare ability.
If I see some more from Raki in Leadership, agility, and detecting Youma, I may bump him up by as much as 3 points. I looked forward to seeing more from Raki.
Edit - Just read some other forums about Raki. Many theorize that he was able to sense the Youma so well due to someting that Isley did to him. They also posit that Raki is a new breed of Claymore that Isley invented or something...
They came up with this to explain how he could keep up with (while saying he was holding back) against the Organization's new "twins".
That, or the more obvious, "Claymore are conditioned to hold back against humans and we know very well they weren't fighting seriously like they were against Miria."
I don't feel your post actually addressed what I said, at all.Here are her ranks as she fought an awakened Ophelia:
youma energy E
Agility : E
Muscular strength : E
Spirit : D
Perception : C+
Leadership : EShe still has crap stats. Yet, she possess, at this point, enough power to fight against awakened beings as we see her clearly do in the Northern Campaign. Ergo, the stats are crap and make no sense.
Bzzt, wrong, like I just explained.
Those are her starting stats, from the databook before Ophelia and such were even introduced, before Miria & co got any stats either. They're stats that reflect her initial form, in other words.
That's before half-awakening at Rabona, before she learned the yoki-dodge trick in the awakened fight, and definitely before gaining Quicksword.
I was thinking about bumping it up to A, actually, not dropping it down.
Which'd be dumb, the As mostly are people with specific muscle powers and feats far far beyond his. He breaks wooden swords and pushes back young girls in mid-air. A-levels slice through stone and high-end awakened beings. Teresa's an A and she ripped a part off an awakened bare handed.
And Raki certainly has more experience with Awakened beings than most Claymore. On top of that, he appears to lead quite naturally. I may consider putting him at A+ if we get to see more of his leading at the organization.
He's never fought them in awakened form, though. Having sword-drills with Isley is not at all the same thing.
And you just seem to fling out high numbers at the drop of a hat.
Agility: nope. We can see that, clearly, humans can do well there....better than many Claymore.
No, we really don't. Beginner Clare is way more agile than some exceptional humans. All Claymore can leap multiple stories and all that like even Raki never has.
Musclar Strength: Possibly this one is mostly superhuman. However, Raki appears to make multiple organization soliders look like chumps...but so does Guts in Berserk. So this is more like "Superhuman to most humans...except other humans that appear to be superhuman". It's all relative.
And I'll note that precisely every Claymore (except for maybe Clarice) can do this too.
That's not really accurate: the perception of Yoki for use in combat is very limited to people like Clare and Theresa.
Few have it to that precise extent, but all can sense yoki somewhat, use it to judge people's strength and general location, and all that.
If I see some more from Raki in Leadership, agility, and detecting Youma, I may bump him up by as much as 3 points. I looked forward to seeing more from Raki.
Your stats are already silly high-end and generous.
If he does extremely well, a lot more than he's shown, he may justify stats close to the ones you've shown.
Originally posted by Q99
That, or the more obvious, "Claymore are conditioned to hold back against humans and we know very well they weren't fighting seriously like they were against Miria."
Except, of course, during a mutiny when they are fighting back against the organization which appears to be largely comprised of humans. That situation just happens to have occured from the time frame I am referencing.
Awwwwwwwwww sheeeeeeiiiiiiiit! 😄
And Miria, who made 3 and 5 seem like chumps, is being consoled by Rubul for her inability to compete with the twins (up and coming #1s...maybe not quite #1's yet).
http://www.mangareader.net/485-56369-22/claymore/chapter-106.html
Granted, it was due to her not being able to compete with those two in combination of #10s ability.
Originally posted by Q99
Bzzt, wrong, like I just explained.Those are her starting stats, from the databook before Ophelia and such were even introduced, before Miria & co got any stats either. They're stats that reflect her initial form, in other words.
That's before half-awakening at Rabona, before she learned the yoki-dodge trick in the awakened fight, and definitely before gaining Quicksword.
Bzzzt, wrong. Those are her stats from Databook 2. Databook 2 lists her quicksword ability under those stats. I promise, I did not intend that to be a trap...but I thought, before posting that, that it would appear as a trap. However, I counted on your knowing about the second databook information and figured that you would not see it "as a trap".
Originally posted by Q99
Which'd be dumb, the As mostly are people with specific muscle powers and feats far far beyond his. He breaks wooden swords and pushes back young girls in mid-air. A-levels slice through stone and high-end awakened beings. Teresa's an A and she ripped a part off an awakened bare handed.
I appreciate you telling me that I'm saying dumb things. 😐
However, you are incorrectly assuming that I don't already believe Raki possess the ability to do that.
The swords are obviously made of a very special material. If you have a sharp enough blade...and it's durable, a small child can slice through a rock like it was nothing. Ever heard of "graphene blades"? It's future-science...but not fantasy. Raki appears to have superhuman strength, by our measures. By in universe measures, he's just a very high-end human.
Originally posted by Q99
He's never fought them in awakened form, though. Having sword-drills with Isley is not at all the same thing.
I guess you forgot about the whole explosion of the parasitic rods which gave Claymore, who could take on awakened beings, trouble.
http://www.mangareader.net/485-31125-6/claymore/chapter-95.html
Clare, at this point, is among the strongest Claymore out there...yet, she's having trouble.
Originally posted by Q99
And you just seem to fling out high numbers at the drop of a hat.
I was thinking you are limiting him, mad crazy, on non sequitur whims.
Originally posted by Q99
No, we really don't. Beginner Clare is way more agile than some exceptional humans. All Claymore can leap multiple stories and all that like even Raki never has.
I guess you forgot the part where Clare was chased down by two humans towards the beginning of the series? "All-that" jumping. 🙂
It was Clare's superior tactics and training that won her the day.
Also, Raki has this beautiful dodging feat:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115
A point blank dodge of an attack from the up-and-coming Abyssal destroyers. 🙂
And then there's this, too:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/2
And here he is jumping several feat in the air...about the 2 story jumps you were raving about (not to mention, he went from on the ground looking up, to well above her head in just one panel...almost on par with the virtual "flash stepping" we see from the "Northern Warriors":
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/3
Let's not forget that he's still recovering from injuries withOUT regeneration abilities. 🙂
And here he is taking on awakened being (much closer to abyssal level than low-level AB, not doubt) strikes with ease. Now...where have we seen this type of resistance to speedy attacks?
That's right: Riful and her many ribbons against the Northern Warriors. 🙂
Oh...and "hi to you" uber agility:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/6
🙂
And finally, let's not ignore that...they acknowledge that Raki is on level with their sword skills:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/9
Then let's look at the final nail in the coffin against Raki's abilities:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/19
So, Raki is enough of a warrior to take over the duty of both of the twins. Both twins were alternating awakening to take on the organization as seen here:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/114/10
So Raki is enough, alone, to replace the twins.
If you want another agility feat: here he is crossing a significantly long distance in such a speed as to prevent the human warrior from even having time to respond:
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/22
http://www.mangareader.net/claymore/115/23
Lastly, I would like to say I was wrong about Raftela having to face 2-3 times as many Organization soliders when she admitted to siding with Miria...she faced about the same as Raki did (Raki faced a few more).
She didn't even have a chance to respond. So, like you stated, Raki is at an advantage because he is not relying on Youki sensing to react to the enemy: he is using his sword skills, strength, and agility. So I will concede that point. I also concede the Raki is missing a special move that only Youki power could grant him. This is why I cannot put him at a level any higher than 5 without further feats. A rank 8 is reasonible, at this point...he makes most Claymore lookl like chumps but would easily fall to probably all each generation's top 4 or 5. The twins said he smells different from the other humans. (Aura?) So I guess, in the end, the speculators are right: Raki probably has something done to his body. That would explain his superhuman agility, strength, and speed.
Originally posted by Q99
And I'll note that precisely every Claymore (except for maybe Clarice) can do this too.
I guess you forgot about the part where those pesky "humans" surrounded and impaled Raftela? If it were so easy for a Claymore to take on humans in numbers, then it could be done. Granted, she was impaled by 2-3 times as many humans that took on Raki...but the organization obviously thought that was enough to stop a rebelling Claymore ranked #10. 🙂
I'll also note that Dauf, despite his speed, is not able to keep up with Renee (#6)...despite his speed being S.
Originally posted by Q99
Your stats are already silly high-end and generous.If he does extremely well, a lot more than he's shown, he may justify stats close to the ones you've shown.
They range from conservative to correct, actually.
Additionally, it would appear you can sense Youki as a human:
http://www.mangareader.net/485-43815-16/claymore/chapter-99.html
Clare says she remembers the youki of Priscilla as a child. She wasn't a "warrior" yet.
Another note, I would like to add to my suggestion that Clare is definitely at the level of a #1 by this point:
http://www.mangareader.net/485-46701-7/claymore/chapter-100.html
She was able to dodge Priscilla's attack. Priscilla, at this point, made short work of the Twins.
Last chapter was decent. Still better than the "big 3".
I am really glad to see the other "guys" show up, finally.
Do you think it is possible for 5-8 of the really good "former" claymore to take on an abyssal one? Not just an abyssal one, but an abyssal one made from some of the strongest #1s in the history of the organization.
Awww....the zombie Claymore aren't hot anymore 🙁
Nonetheless this was a pretty good chapter. Though Helen does look kind of masculine to me. It was also cool to see Raki again as well.
I don' think these guys will be enough. I mean not only are these some of the best no. 1 in history but they're also super charged with Priscilla's Yoki.