Well how would you like it if you were no longer unique, everything that made you special and great has gone, instead you are just another number your interests and goals are all the same, nothing makes you stand out, would you not think of fixing that, so that in the end only you are remembered in history, not a 1000 of you for doing one thing.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
lol so true, I said that a DNA sample and brain tissue; you are correct it would be hard the first couple of tries, but once you have the correct gene sequence well.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
We are, of course, assuming the Pirates have perfected cloning techniques, as evidenced by how most of the Metroids in the series are clones.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I don't believe Ridley is the leader of the Space Pirates because in Metroid Prime they mentioned something about a High Command and about clones turning on one another
Originally posted by ESB -1138
they could basically make the Ridley clones 100% obedient servents (like in Star Wars) considering if they did have cloning technology they must have the ability to alter one's abilities and such.
Who would want to see an obedient C3PO-like Ridley, much less an army of them? Not me. 😛
Originally posted by General Kaliero
There is a High Command, yes, but they apparently stay on the Homeworld, while Ridley seems to be something of a field agent. He's the General, he commands the militant forces on other planets.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Perhaps he is second in command, as if High command is a select group who Ridley talks to directy, obtaining his orders riht from the top and acts as there eyes and ears.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
shrug No one said the Pirates were incredibly smart. Most of their tech is stolen, and there are a lot of scientific casualties.Remember, kids: Metroids are not for target practice!
Being as organized as they are though (and being around as long as they've been), the Pirates are pretty smart in general, but not incredibly smart.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
When you have a common enemy (Galactic Federation in this case) you share a common goal and thus it would seem pointless to turn on one another and from what we know of Ridley he is very intellegent and he wouldn't be that stupid to turn on those who have the ability to help him in his goal.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
That might be a reason why Ridley worked with Mother Brain
Originally posted by ESB -1138
and it would seem he was in league with Dark Samus as seen in Corruption.
It's unknown though if Ridley's mind was warped by Dark Samus (like the other Pirates' as shown in the Pirate Logs), or if he joined DS willingly.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
True but imagine, 1000 Ridleys all the same, and what happens if one has different ideas then the others.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
If they are all the same it is a better chance of them having the same idea.
It just wouldn't work out.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well how would you like it if you were no longer unique, everything that made you special and great has gone, instead you are just another number your interests and goals are all the same, nothing makes you stand out, would you not think of fixing that, so that in the end only you are remembered in history, not a 1000 of you for doing one thing.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Or again they could make the clones inferior to the real Ridley such as in Star Wars to make them do what he says
Originally posted by ESB -1138
and if they could clone Ridley why were they building that mecha Ridley in Zero Mission?
Mecha doesn't seem to have anything to do with the real Ridley (or any clones he might have), as they're all organic creatures, whereas Mecha Ridley is fully mechanical (not a lifeform).
And from what I recall, Mecha Ridley didn't even have wings or a tail. No way that metal pile of scrap could be associated with the real Ridley 😛 (just a substitute).
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Much more reliable and durable, clones could suffer degeneration and clones can indeed suffer complications, building something stronger, faster and free from mortal harm such as being burnt is usually a good way to concur; destroy.
If anything the original Ridley would have some kind of superiority over the clones if anything as to keep him separate from the originals plus it would just seem pointless to rebuild Ridley (as Meta-Ridley) if they had the power to clone him. That would be going to Zebes to the ruins after it was destroyed due to Mother Brain and finding his body/corpse and bringing it back to HQ just to allow him to continue leading the Space Pirates when they could have just cut out the middle man altogether and just have a Ridley clone replace him.
Plus we also see the corpse of Ridley in Fusion seeing that even after the planet explodes he is able to stay as a whole anyway. So that alone shows if Ridley's body can survive a planet exploding it can survive anything Samus can do.
Not to mention the Space Pirates are in fact very intelligent as a whole seeing as they whipped out the Chozo (the most technologically advance race in the universe).
Originally posted by ESB -1138
If anything the original Ridley would have some kind of superiority over the clones if anything as to keep him separate from the originals plus it would just seem pointless to rebuild Ridley (as Meta-Ridley) if they had the power to clone him.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
That would be going to Zebes to the ruins after it was destroyed due to Mother Brain and finding his body/corpse and bringing it back to HQ just to allow him to continue leading the Space Pirates when they could have just cut out the middle man altogether and just have a Ridley clone replace him.
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"The Space Pirates were interstellar nomads, technologically advanced in both space travel and weaponry. When they plundered the Metroid population that had been discovered by the Galactic Federation on SR388, they recognized in them massive military and energy resource potential. They immediately invaded the nearby planet of Zebes, wiping out all life (including most of the indigenous Chozo) and building a massive network of research facilities below the planet's surface.
Deep below the surface of Zebes, the Space Pirates researched Metroids for many years, even as a young girl orphaned by their raid on the neighboring planet K-2 was growing up among the Chozo. Trained as a warrior and infused with Chozo blood, Samus Aran donned a Chozo-made Power Suit and cut a swath through the Space Pirates' operation, destroying everything in her path, including the gargantuan manstays of the Space Pirate army, Ridley and Kraid. She eventually made it to the core of their base, destroyed all the Metroids she saw, and seemingly blew up the Mother Brain.
But the Space Pirates were far from finished. They immediately split their survivors into two main camps. One headed to Zebes to begin rebuilding their ravaged facility and resuscitating Mother Brain, Ridley, and Kraid. The second set out in search of a planet with powerful energy resources. They didn't search far before they discovered Tallon IV, which was still emanating huge pulses of energy from the Phazon contained beneath the Chozo temple. Entranced by the massive potential of the strange mutagen, they immediately moved in, retrofitting their laboratories, transporters, and life-support systems into the Chozo Ruins.
As the Space Pirates mined the Phazon and experimented with it, they found that its capacity to mutate was unlike anything they'd ever seen, and they promptly started combining it with indigenous life-forms. They refined their operation; powering their machinery with thermal-powered engines sunk in the molten depths of Tallon IV, they drove deep mineshafts and mined more and more PHazon, shipping it to their two main labs in the Phendrana Drifts, where sub-zero temperatures made specimen containment safer. Research leaped forward: by harnessing Phazon's power, they were able to create untold horrors that soon patrolled the dark caverns below Tallon IV's crust.
The Space Pirates also transported many species to their orbiting ship for zero-G Phazon experiments, unaware that Samus Aran had finally tracked their ship to its low orbit. As they continued with their unnatural experiments, Samus sped toward Tallon IV, preparing to wipe them out once and for all..."
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That should shed some light on the subject of Mother Brain's revival (which took place before Super Metroid).
Say, I guess that means the Ridley in Super Metroid may not be a clone after all, if he was revived in the same fashion that Kraid and Mother Brain were.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Plus we also see the corpse of Ridley in Fusion seeing that even after the planet explodes he is able to stay as a whole anyway. So that alone shows if Ridley's body can survive a planet exploding it can survive anything Samus can do.[/B]
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Not to mention the Space Pirates are in fact very intelligent as a whole seeing as they whipped out the Chozo (the most technologically advance race in the universe).
Only when a metroid game comes out with a full plot and story will we know the truth, maybe he is a clone, maybe not...however you have to think how long can any creature last before it succumbs, and if he is indeed the Pirates top field agent would you honestly let him die, if you have a great player on your side, someone who can get the job done; can plan out strategic battle plans, your not going to just let him fail and that be the end of it, if you have the ability to bring him back then you will, maybe it is the HC that orders his revival most of the time, I wonder if Ridley may not be the only one of his kind, perhaps HC has members of different races that like to remain...anonymous.
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Only when a metroid game comes out with a full plot and story will we know the truth
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
however you have to think how long can any creature last before it succumbs, and if he is indeed the Pirates top field agent would you honestly let him die
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
if you have a great player on your side, someone who can get the job done; can plan out strategic battle plans, your not going to just let him fail and that be the end of it, if you have the ability to bring him back then you will
And I agree with that. ^-^
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
maybe it is the HC that orders his revival most of the time
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I wonder if Ridley may not be the only one of his kind
The manual of the original Metroid/Zero Mission (forgot which one) said that (but in different words).
The manga also implies Ridley's the last of his kind.
"Just one..."
Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
perhaps HC has members of different races that like to remain...anonymous.
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lol Nice discovery here...
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The Meta-Ridley (Brawl) fight with better quality.
Damn. He looks awesome in the cut-scene... and he's real fast/quick too. 😱
All the more disappointing that he's not playable 😬 (without hacking anyway).