Jesus taught the church. He founded it even. Trinity is based entirely off Jesus. The "rapture" is based off Jesus's promise to return. What are you talking about?
Good.
Yah, you said that missionaries avoid the non-soft parts to start with. But they don't, so your allegation doesn't really have a bearing in reality.
lie. they do and always have. infact the way most missionaries preach and try to convert in the muslim countries is downright disturbing. theyd even go so far as to distribute pamphlets of arabic allah- habba{god is love} which is read and seen{by people who do not understand arabic as is the case with the greater part of the muslim world} ver similar to allah - muhammad and allah hu akbar. and if you read down in arabic it has all the crap about god is love etc etc. and this is distrbuted to muslims simply because most will consider it holy and put it in sum high place above the head{as is the cas with holy arabic text with most muslims} or hang it, not knowing what it is and thinking it is sum muslim prayer or part of the quran. PLEASE do not even try to tell me that christian missionaries all over the world arent sum of the sneakiest people youll ever meet. cause really, you dont know anything about the subject.
Hahaha. Jesus talked about the church all the time. "Upon this rock I will build my church" ring a bell?
"You will see the son of man coming on the clouds" ring a bell?
"Your will not mine", "the Father and I are one", etc. etc. ring a bell?
Evidence contrary to that is non-existent.
Then you haven't experienced many missionaries. I can guarantee I know plenty about it. Seen it, done it, and been approached by it. Ever heard of Chick Tracts? I know you have and I guarantee those aren't trying to show the light side of Christianity.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Hahaha. Jesus talked about the church all the time. "Upon this rock I will build my church" ring a bell?
"You will see the son of man coming on the clouds" ring a bell?
"Your will not mine", "the Father and I are one", etc. etc. ring a bell?
Evidence contrary to that is non-existent.Then you haven't experienced many missionaries. I can guarantee I know plenty about it. Seen it, done it, and been approached by it. Ever heard of Chick Tracts? I know you have and I guarantee those aren't trying to show the light side of Christianity.
"i did not come to destroy the teachings of old"
"son of MAN", and that is no evidence for RAPTURE
" the father is greater than """"""""I""""""""" the father is greater than ALL, i can of my ownself do NOTHING! "
seems to contradict all u said there
i have expirienced many missionaries thankyou. you are talking exclusively about SOME missionaries in AMERICA, who are out to mostly scare CHRISTIANS, who are not very close to their faith for obvious reasons. i can guaruntee you that it isnt aimed towards american muslims and jews etc unless they have a christian background.
That's correct, he didn't.
No, its the rest of the sentence that is important...
Yah, which is used in support of the trinity. The theology is that the son proceeds from the Father.
Plus, I'm not supporting any of the theologies. However, they are based on Jesus's words.
A wonderfully false assumption you just made. Not American, not even North American or European. I don't presume that you are entirely wrong, but its a gross generalization based only on your personal experience. Mine has been different and I'm guessing because you live in Pakistan that I've seen a more diverse field of missionaries than you. And I can guarantee you that you are wrong.
then why build a new church with different teachings than the old jews
no it isnt
no it isnt, the word FATHER is not father as taken in english but the father of ALL being, not his biological father. and jesus said the father is greater than himself and than all things, and that he cud do nuthing of his own will, an avatr of god wud never say that as jesus was supposed to be god himself. people will twist anything around and take it as evidence, doesnt make it real though.
i cna guaruntee you that your wrong, youd be surprised at how many mervcenaries we have not to mention for how many more pakistan is a base where they can mostly, safely manage missionaries around the region, including in arabia. infact you are completely in the wrong here. missionaries are very sneaky.
You know what I find interesting ? Christianity is not the only religion with a Trinity.
In Hinduism, the Brahman is divided into a Trinity of Three Primary Gods: Brahma (the Creator), Vishnu (the Maintainer), and Shiva (the Destroyer).
This Trinity represents the eternal cycle of life and death (Samsara), creation, maintenance, destruction, and recreation.
Ofcourse, the Trinity in Hinduism has a completely different context from the Trinity in Christianity, but I think it's an interesting parallel.