Originally posted by Da Pittman
If it stops producing energy then it doesn’t continue, like with the brain when it dies that energy doesn’t continue on because there is nothing sustaining that energy at least the way that I understand they way it works.
But you are talking about potential energy. If you put the generator in a sealed box and weighed it while it ran and then while it was off, the weight would never change. The mass would not change, and we all know E=MC2.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonThat would be if the box could contain all the energy and matter and let none of it dissipate but the human body is far from a sealed container. The energy that we produce on a daily basis is converted to other forms and dissipated from our body every second of the day.
But you are talking about potential energy. If you put the generator in a sealed box and weighed it while it ran and then while it was off, the weight would never change. The mass would not change, and we all know E=MC2.
Energy just changes form. We don't know what the after life can be. We only speculate. There are many theories to reincarnation as well. One theory is that that we always are in the state of creation or evolving, and would also include free will. So it could be that we choose to not remember our earlier lives for a reason. OR, we could choose to not reincarnate at all. Either way you look at it, it is still evolving, growing, changing. Or again, we could just meld into some sort of cosmic field. Sounds kinda boring......lol
This is one of the issues that I have with those that believe in the afterlife and trying to use the “energy” logic to try and prove their view which I see as very flawed. With the concept of the soul wouldn’t apply to this unless you considered this a constant self sustaining energy which nothing in the real world has been shown to do.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
That would be if the box could contain all the energy and matter and let none of it dissipate but the human body is far from a sealed container. The energy that we produce on a daily basis is converted to other forms and dissipated from our body every second of the day.
Even though my illustration has flaws, it still show that energy cannot be lost.
The self identity that is this life will be lost forever when you die, but all the parts that are you (the energy) are as old as the universe. This energy will one day return to life. Much like an atom of oxygen in your body right now has been in many bodies in the past, and when it leaves you, it will enter someone else’s body.
Originally posted by Da PittmanWell there are many documented phenomena. They all can't be liars about all different experiences. This would tell me that there is something we don't yet understand, and since all these experiences are different, then there cannot be just one belief of what happens after we die.
This is one of the issues that I have with those that believe in the afterlife and trying to use the “energy” logic to try and prove their view which I see as very flawed. With the concept of the soul wouldn’t apply to this unless you considered this a constant self sustaining energy which nothing in the real world has been shown to do.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonWith that I do agree, it is the concept of self awareness and individualism that is more of my issue.
Even though my illustration has flaws, it still show that energy cannot be lost.The self identity that is this life will be lost forever when you die, but all the parts that are you (the energy) are as old as the universe. This energy will one day return to life. Much like an atom of oxygen in your body right now has been in many bodies in the past, and when it leaves you, it will enter someone else’s body.
Originally posted by debbiejoThat we don’t understand I would agree we know little of what the universe holds but that each person has a different experience, I’m assuming you mean a NDE holds little proof to me of an after life other than people responding differently to being almost dead and the changes in chemistry to the body.
Well there are many documented phenomena. They all can't be liars about all different experiences. This would tell me that there is something we don't yet understand, and since all these experiences are different, then there cannot be just one belief of what happens after we die.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Well there are many documented phenomena. They all can't be liars about all different experiences. This would tell me that there is something we don't yet understand, and since all these experiences are different, then there cannot be just one belief of what happens after we die.
Life is an illusion, so why would you expect death to be different?
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Damn David Copperfield pitt_fist
However, I believe we do not (never) experience death. We die... we then find our self in a womb with no physical memory of the life we had before. It is that cross over point (known as the womb real) that preloads memories from the past life. These are lost as we grow (over written). Just ask a two year old about the life they had before.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI would consider that more genetic memory than past life’s, more of a genetic trait that is past down from generation to generation.
However, I believe we do not (never) experience death. We die... we then find our self in a womb with no physical memory of the life we had before. It is that cross over point (known as the womb real) that preloads memories from the past life. These are lost as we grow (over written). Just ask a two year old about the life they had before.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Question: If you have a generator that is producing energy and then it runs out of gas what happens to the energy that it was producing?
It no longer appears in the form you needed. It still exists though.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, I believe we do not (never) experience death. We die... we then find our self in a womb with no physical memory of the life we had before. It is that cross over point (known as the womb real) that preloads memories from the past life. These are lost as we grow (over written). Just ask a two year old about the life they had before.
I find that very interesting 👆
Where did you get that conclusion from ?
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonIf you believe that the energy all goes into a big universal soup, for the lack of a better term, then how is it that enough of this soup would go back into someone that you could remember a “past life” of just one of a few individuals out of trillions of people, animals and so on?
I remember it from my past lifes...
Originally posted by Da Pittman
If you believe that the energy all goes into a big universal soup, for the lack of a better term, then how is it that enough of this soup would go back into someone that you could remember a “past life” of just one of a few individuals out of trillions of people, animals and so on?
Because time is an illusion. The past, present and future exist now. I am the incarnation of my entity, and my entity lives many lives all at once.