Thanos Vs. Superboy prime

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl50 pages

Originally posted by 123KID
fair enough

but she wasn't defeated which was my original question actually

okay then
let him try snapping New Earth MM's neck
see what happens

and he blitzed the heroes, using his vast FTL speed;in the whole fight ?

except he never actually did crush the Guardian's head....so.....it's not a feat

WW was knocked out. That is the point. You are forgetting that she is a top tier with amazing regenerative powers. just becuz she's back up later on doesn't mean she wasn't defeated.

As For Prime blizting heroes the whole fight, it sure as hell looks like he's blizting for most of it.

As for Him snapping MM's kneck in the main DCU, that wont' happen simply becuz of characters being used for up coming stories. I'm sure you can do better than that. It's the same reason Thanos has never killed any heroes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm so glad someone can see that I was just defending a new comer. Those two are part of an unholy alliance brought together to turn this into a copy of every other forum. Full of marvel bias and pre reconned wanking.

You're just defending a sock, possibly one you yourself created. You know why nobody else can see "that you were just trying to defend a new comer"? Because nobody likes you.

Well all this useless flaming is just distracting from the main point of this thread, besides terrible Thanos fanboy wanking there really isnt a reason Thanos could take this aside from wishfull thinking. Lets just move and declare SMP the winner already...geez.

Originally posted by 123KID
i have one reqest for anyone here saying Prime wins

name me ONE being Prime beat that was Thanos-level

he beat this person AT THEIR BEST
ie. NOT weakened from lead nevermind there's no proof Sodam Ion is Thanos-level but stil
ie. NOT having just endured a galaxy-buster

so, i'll be waiting for the time Prime squared off with a fully powered character on Thanos' level and won.

Thanos would laugh at everything Superman tried and then porbalby kill him in a few blows

1. Neither SBP or Thanos have ever beaten anyone on each other's level with no extenuating circumstances, but SBP has come closer in his fights with Ion and a Guardian. He certainly did better than Thanos did against Odin or Tyrant.

2. Thanos has been hurt by top tiers before

Originally posted by 123KID
fair enough

but she wasn't defeated which was my original question actually

okay then
let him try snapping New Earth MM's neck
see what happens

and he blitzed the heroes, using his vast FTL speed;in the whole fight ?

except he never actually did crush the Guardian's head....so.....it's not a feat

1. Harming a Guardian at all is a MAJOR feat, especially if it convinces the Guardian he has to commit suicide to win

2. He was about to snap Guy Gardner's neck when Hal interfered, then he snapped Hal's arm. He blew a hole through Superman while he was weakened. If the blast landed a few inches to the side (in the heart), Superman would be dead. I mean seriously, you think snapping J'onn's neck is beyond him? He handled J'onn like a grown up handles a 5 year old while he was below full power.

Diana was up and fighting a few pages later...so no.

A few PAGES later. If you want to discount a KO because the person woke up within a few pages, then I can't think of any top tiers Thanos has KOed.

because we never see them again means he KO'ed them even though we never see them get knocked unconscious and even if they were we have no idea HOW................................

off-panel fights are teh greatest1

What do you mean we have no idea how? We saw him hit J'onn, making him bleed and fall down. J'onn wasn't seen for the rest of the comic. It's stated that he and PG will fall as this is happening. Pretty straightforward.

check on this

a Guy who hadn't even been using lethal force for most of the fight and a Hal with a broken arm (when Hal has beaten people with his arm broken)

Uh, the "fight" consisted of Guy blasting SBP, SBP grabbing his neck about to snap it, and Hal interfering. There was no "fight." And then SBP broke Hal's arm and the Supermen saved him.


not defeating either of them fairly

If you say so, man.


like how single ring blasts can make him scream

Surfer can make Tyrant grunt with a sucker blast. It happens.


show me him easily owning a top tier with the tactics he used against Prime

What a ridiculous argument. He didn't use all of his versatility, therefore his power level is nullified. I guess Surfer wasn't top tier when Thanos beat him since all he did was throw an energy blast. For that matter, Morg was getting the better of Thanos just by tackling him.


your credibility is even less than it was

If you question that The Guardians are Skyfather level or that their "greatest weapon" is as well, I don't think you're in any position to make ad hominem attacks.


how about how MM was fighting him very well after Prime knocked BA away ?

"Very well?" He phased through one blast and landed one decent shot. And then he and Powergirl combined got owned. It looked like MM got oneshotted.


how Superman was CHEAP-SHOTTED and just coming from a fight with Cyborg Superman ?

1. Superman wasn't stated to be weakened and, you know, has a healing factor

2. SBP was weakened

3. Being cheapshotted doesn't lower his durability. You're more prone to being rocked or KOed by blunt force you'r unprepared for, but his skin and organs don't suddenly become easier to penetrate because he wasn't expecting it. He HAD A HOLE BLEW THROUGH HIM. By a WEAKENED SBP.


hoorah for not being weak to magic

Thanos was stunned by one shot and later two shots by Masterson Thor's hammer in IG. This is similar to taking 5 shots from it.

iit shows the level of brainpower heroes have when they fight Prime

a very versatile group...and they just dogpile on Prime....

They tried numerous tactics before that. Besides, they fought smarter than most heroes have fought against Thanos. , Starlin is notorious for writing stories where Thanos and Adam Warlock are the only characters with functioning braincells.

same for Doomsday

do we rank Doomsday as high as we do Prime ?

even though Doomsday has better feats prior to Prime's powerup in Countdown

Doomsday does not have feats as good as Prime's. Even in his best showings, Superman managed to hold his own one on one with DD for pages. And Doomsday's biggest win was a sucker against Darkseid. Not as impressive as SBP's showings against Ion, Guardians, or The Anti-Monitor.

As far as Doomsday vs. the Guardian, you're ignoring context:

1. Doomsday had a GL ring, and slaughtered WAVES of GLs with it. The narration stated how extreme his willpower was.

2. The Guardian was clearly more powerful than Doomsday at first, even with the GL ring. Doomsday was stalemating the Guardian, aside from having a GL ring, because his evolution powers were allowing him to start adapting to the energy.

Let's put it this way: If Doomsday had the Twilight Sword and was adapting to the fires of Muspelheim, then him stalemating Surtur would be nowhere near as big a deal as it would be otherwise.

Bart w/Speedforce is

Superboy

the many people who make him bleed and hurt him

Bart as Impulse has a win over Extant. Wally has a win over The Anti-Monitor. The Flashes are walking plot devices, and yet Wally and Jay combined had to basically use up all their power just to help stop SBP, and then it took aide from Barry as well. Using the Flashes as an example is stupid.

As for Kon, he did better against SBP than Black Adam or J'onn because it was his big death scene. In the same comic, SBP took shots from Breach, Lady Quark, and Nightshade (who seriously weakened Superman) without slowing down, and he laughed off Black Adam's attacks.

Besides, Thanos has bled from a kick by Gamora.

^Wins thread.

Honestly, I know that superman prime is powerful but he just dont seem all that powerful like you all are putting him at. I would like to use an example and Im going to use my favorite hero as an example because the only good feat that I have seen of him has been him punching through the source wall.

Superman prime, had to fly through a planet to destroy it.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

beta ray bill destroys two planets and then fought a god that is equal or far greater in power then ion.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg

Superboy prime took down a group of teens that are quite powerful but do they equal or surpass the power that tanaraq possess, someone that brb took down by himself. Or does that power equal ego the living planet, someone who bill has taken down by himself. Bill has also dented and hurt galactus.

tanaraq
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/5mQH/view-image/omegaflight-5-0006.html

Injures galactus, which has been stated as punching a hole inside of a star.
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/377/stormbreaker0213ei8.jpg

Im not saying that beta ray bill could beat superman prime but superman prime just dont have the feats to put him above thanos or any other high level being.

I give the edge to thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, I know that superman prime is powerful but he just dont seem all that powerful like you all are putting him at. I would like to use an example and Im going to use my favorite hero as an example because the only good feat that I have seen of him has been him punching through the source wall.

Superman prime, had to fly through a planet to destroy it.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

beta ray bill destroys two planets and then fought a god that is equal or far greater in power then ion.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg

Superboy prime took down a group of teens that are quite powerful but do they equal or surpass the power that tanaraq possess, someone that brb took down by himself. Or does that power equal ego the living planet, someone who bill has taken down by himself. Bill has also dented and hurt galactus.

tanaraq
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/5mQH/view-image/omegaflight-5-0006.html

Injures galactus, which has been stated as punching a hole inside of a star.
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/377/stormbreaker0213ei8.jpg

Im not saying that beta ray bill could beat superman prime but superman prime just dont have the feats to put him above thanos or any other high level being.

I give the edge to thanos.

What in the sam hill. Superboy prime bitched Earth's best. Forget the titans. He was bitching the JLA JSA and other combined. He beat the flashes, broke out of the speed force and survived an explosion from the full life force blast of a guardian. What do you think Thanos is going to do that can top the power of an exploding gaurdian?

SBP is also far more mobile than thanos, faster and had enough power in his HV to kill a GL and as a by product, rip a gaurdian's shoulder and shields. What edge are you giving thanos?

Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, I know that superman prime is powerful but he just dont seem all that powerful like you all are putting him at. I would like to use an example and Im going to use my favorite hero as an example because the only good feat that I have seen of him has been him punching through the source wall.

Superman prime, had to fly through a planet to destroy it.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

beta ray bill destroys two planets and then fought a god that is equal or far greater in power then ion.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg

Superboy prime took down a group of teens that are quite powerful but do they equal or surpass the power that tanaraq possess, someone that brb took down by himself. Or does that power equal ego the living planet, someone who bill has taken down by himself. Bill has also dented and hurt galactus.

tanaraq
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/5mQH/view-image/omegaflight-5-0006.html

Injures galactus, which has been stated as punching a hole inside of a star.
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/377/stormbreaker0213ei8.jpg

Im not saying that beta ray bill could beat superman prime but superman prime just dont have the feats to put him above thanos or any other high level being.

I give the edge to thanos.

Stardust is a top tier but not skyfather level and Prime has beaten top tiers lets start with Ion the green lanterns Hal, Alan and Guy on top of that he beat the snot out of Superman earth 1 Superman, Powergirl and the Martian man Hunter not to mention all the Flashes and Black Adam and green latern rings are planet busters.

Hey remember, SS jobs to Thanos so his power is that of bad writing.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hey remember, SS jobs to Thanos so his power is that of bad writing.

SS jobs to most every one. Such a valuable character gone to shit by terrible writers who can't get the character right. No one writes him like Lim.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hey remember, SS jobs to Thanos so his power is that of bad writing.
Everyone jobbed to Prime...

Holds as much weight as what you said. 🙂

Originally posted by iceman24567
Stardust is a top tier but not skyfather level and Prime has beaten top tiers lets start with Ion the green lanterns Hal, Alan and Guy on top of that he beat the snot out of Superman earth 1 Superman, Powergirl and the Martian man Hunter not to mention all the Flashes and Black Adam and green latern rings are planet busters.

I wasnt referring to stardust as being skyfather, I was referring to Asteroth. She has been stated as a universal threat.

And I would like for you to prove something to me (i bet you'll never prove it because you aint doing nothing but making up sh** like everyone else on kmc does.). Can you prove (I want to see a scan) that superman, martian manhunter, black adam, and flash are planet busters.

I actually want to see all of them stand on a planet and destroy it physically. Show me any of them destroying a planet physically. It never happened, so stop saying that they're planet buster when theres no proof. The best planet feat that I have seen so far from dc has been superman prime and the best planet feat that I have seen before that was superman, wonderwoman and martian manhunter struggling to move the moon and struggle again to move planet earth.

Originally posted by carver9
I wasnt referring to stardust as being skyfather, I was referring to Asteroth. She has been stated as a universal threat.

And I would like for you to prove something to me (i bet you'll never prove it because you aint doing nothing but making up sh** like everyone else on kmc does.). Can you prove (I want to see a scan) that superman, martian manhunter, black adam, and flash are planet busters.

I actually want to see all of them stand on a planet and destroy it physically. Show me any of them destroying a planet physically. It never happened, so stop saying that they're planet buster when theres no proof. The best planet feat that I have seen so far has been superman prime and the best planet feat that I have seen before that was superman, wonderwoman and martian manhunter struggling to move the moon and struggle again to move planet earth.

You do realize that Moving the planet earth at a steady pace, against the sun's gravity takes more power than destroying a planet don't you? Have you done the physics of it all? I don't think you have. And I want you to prove to me that the planet that BRB busted up was any bigger than the moon that superman flew thru. Which happens to be a moon of the largest planet in the solar system. You also realize that BRB hadn't busted any planets on his own. It was the hammer that did the majority of the work.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which happens to be a moon of the largest planet in the solar system.
😂

Originally posted by carver9
I wasnt referring to stardust as being skyfather, I was referring to Asteroth. She has been stated as a universal threat.

And I would like for you to prove something to me (i bet you'll never prove it because you aint doing nothing but making up sh** like everyone else on kmc does.). Can you prove (I want to see a scan) that superman, martian manhunter, black adam, and flash are planet busters.

I actually want to see all of them stand on a planet and destroy it physically. Show me any of them destroying a planet physically. It never happened, so stop saying that they're planet buster when theres no proof. The best planet feat that I have seen so far has been superman prime and the best planet feat that I have seen before that was superman, wonderwoman and martian manhunter struggling to move the moon and struggle again to move planet earth.

Im sorry you can't read..I said green lantern rings are planet busters go read what i wrote again before you attack me thanks. 🙄

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
😂

Planets can be as large as jupiter or as small as venus and Pluto. No telling how big the planet was that he busted up. There are moons that can sustain Civilizations in size.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Planets can be as large as jupiter or as small as venus and Pluto. No telling how big the planet was that he busted up. There are moons that can sustain Civilizations in size.
I didn't laff at dat... I laffed at it being the moon of Jupiter actually meaning anything.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I didn't laff at dat... I laffed at it being the moon of Jupiter actually meaning anything.

Well, just saying, Jupiter is huge, so a moon of jupiter could very well be as big as some planets. I haven't researched it, but I would assume so.

Wht has thanos done that makes anyone think he could take prime anyways...oh right he got raped by Odin which somehow counts as a durability feat.