Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You missed my point, but we're making it all along, inconsistencies.

What did I say not happened, "the old I like it so it did happen eh?

Cyclops floored him, not ko'ed, cyclops has taken on several xmen, on the scale of things, wolverine is a low key xmen.

that last comment wasn't meant for you.

wolverine is a low powered mutant...he can still hand plenty of the x-men roster their asses though...and has for that matter...i like how everyone forgets when wolverine was about to kill cyk and prof x had to save him...but what the hey right? we can't be remembering things like that! if we did, wolverine might actually be winning fights around here...

Thats stupid you wouldn't hit him in the face, even I know that there's no skin there, and I aleady told you about non penetrable protection not absorbing any greater damage to the host, a softer car bends more and protects the body more than a hard one, a bullet proof vest gives more concussive force when it blocks a bullet,thann you taking the bullet, even though you would be pierced, the force is like a baseball bat.

That is bad writing that causes this sad worship of an inconsistent character, the older wolverine wouldn't have done half of this.

Originally posted by jinzin
that last comment wasn't meant for you.

wolverine is a low powered mutant...he can still hand plenty of the x-men roster their asses though...and has for that matter...i like how everyone forgets when wolverine was about to kill cyk and prof x had to save him...but what the hey right? we can't be remembering things like that! if we did, wolverine might actually be winning fights around here...

I think he can win this fight, but not likely by thread rules, he is outclassed, which fight are you talking about, cyclops could eat wolverine If it was accurately written, it makes sense.

My bad on the comment, you never do the box quote thing. 🙁

I wouldn't be surprised if wolverine beat cyclops, considering he easily beat nightcrawler and beat lobo.

concussive force doesn't do a whole lot when you have a healing factor that can recover from FATAL wounds in mere seconds...yeah that's right seconds....even then you're trying to debate against what on logans body? his brain? yeah tarnish all those examples of wolverine remaining concious from hulk blows and thing hits, and oh wait...NAMOR HITS! they're all PIS/CIS logan is nothing more than a human with claws and a metal skeleton!

pppffffffffffffffftttt!!!!!!!!!!! 🙄

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I think he can win this fight, but not likely by thread rules, he is outclassed, which fight are you talking about, cyclops could eat wolverine If it was accurately written, it makes sense.

My bad on the comment, you never do the box quote thing. 🙁

I wouldn't be surprised if wolverine beat cyclops, considering he easily beat nightcrawler and beat lobo.

so now wolverine's limited by rules instead of what he's proven he can do...consistantly?

It isn't that fast, more times than not wolverine is unconscious, it depends on who he's fighting and win, I don't regard much of what he does now except for entertainment.

No the rules in the match don't favor wolverine, as by Zahit, its what I meant.

His healing is better than Slades but not hulk, and he doesn't consistantly do much of this compared with his timeline, he started out more human, and went up and up and up, if he had the popularity of say, cyclops, he' wouldn't be doing much of this and you know it.

Would cykes beat a guy that was immune to ruby quartz, hell no. 🙂

are you serious? you're seriously going to neglect the past decade and a half of logans ability to do the things he's done based on popularity....but it's okay for hulk and spidey to do the things they've done cause their continued existance has nothing to do with popularity right 🙄

fact is no wolverine doesn't get KOed by class 50 to 100 fighters more consistantly than he does...if you think otherwise feel free to share examples...out of the 11 or 12 encounters wolverine's had with the hulk and 4 or 5 of which he had a bone skeleton....logan's been KOed 3 times...two of which were cheap shots and the third of which was caused by a possessed hulk and multpile hits....namor isn't the hulk...

Originally posted by jinzin
"it's my way...or...it sucks." eh?

great the ol' i don't like it, it didn't happen argument... so aside from your opinion what makes the previous example take precedence over the other one that's not in your favor? (when did that happen again?)

What are you talking about? I hated the series from the 3rd issue. Many of the hardcore Invaders fans didnt like it. I tried to give it time, and maybe the the story would keep it alive, but the stories didnt help that much.

And the art was horrible as well, but thats a whole other gripe.

I can take Namor losing. Even to Wolverine, but the whole fight was bogus. Blazing skull lands a good hit on him but no effect. Namor land 2 punches on him, but no effect. Then Namor knowing Wolverines skills and abilities stands there and gets stabbed? Then U.S. Agent hits him and sends Wolvie flying? 😆 😆

I believe their first encounter was Namor #24. Wolverine was being mind controlled however.

funny how you forgot to mention that before...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It isn't that fast, more times than not wolverine is unconscious, it depends on who he's fighting and win, I don't regard much of what he does now except for entertainment.

No the rules in the match don't favor wolverine, as by Zahit, its what I meant.

His healing is better than Slades but not hulk, and he doesn't consistantly do much of this compared with his timeline, he started out more human, and went up and up and up, if he had the popularity of say, cyclops, he' wouldn't be doing much of this and you know it.

Would cykes beat a guy that was immune to ruby quartz, hell no. 🙂

You are aware that early 80's Wolverine was alot tougher then he his now?

and he's still runnning around killing ninjas in the thousands and dropping namor in two hits...hahahahaha

Originally posted by jinzin
are you serious? you're seriously going to neglect the past decade and a half of logans ability to do the things he's done based on popularity....but it's okay for hulk and spidey to do the things they've done cause their continued existance has nothing to do with popularity right 🙄

fact is no wolverine doesn't get KOed by class 50 to 100 fighters more consistantly than he does...if you think otherwise feel free to share examples...out of the 11 or 12 encounters wolverine's had with the hulk and 4 or 5 of which he had a bone skeleton....logan's been KOed 3 times...two of which were cheap shots and the third of which was caused by a possessed hulk and multpile hits....namor isn't the hulk...

I never said decade and a half, but wolverine has been out for days from an explosion, out from tea, i'm not doing this again.

Of course existence increases popularity, but I can't count how many times spidey has had his ass beaten, I already agree with spidey losing to firelord, but you ignore that wolverine can't beat godzilla, and that he can beat zarathos. YOu funny, anyway wolverine's first showing against the hulk wasn't really spectacular, though he tried, could you really see the original wolverine easily beating hulk, not really. But I already shared with you on how spidy now deals with gamma charged characters.

😮‍💨

Originally posted by jinzin
and he's still runnning around killing ninjas in the thousands and dropping namor in two hits...hahahahaha

Wolverine can drop namor easily, but namor's hits don't even make him fall, can you smeel the cis and pis there? 🙂 Daredevil gives him trouble, as well as cap, and you know cap can beat wolverine too right??
By your saying it just sounds like wovlerine is invincible and some people love tht.

Wolverine does well against a ton of human types, Spidey does well against alot of super types. 🙂

I still think that a punch would send Wolverine flying. I am not saying that he wouldn't be councious after that, but simply because he is not heavy enough to not be affected by that kind of force.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine can drop namor easily, but namor's hits don't even make him fall, can you smeel the cis and pis there? 🙂 Daredevil gives him trouble, as well as cap, and you know cap can beat wolverine too right??
By your saying it just sounds like wovlerine is invincible and some people love that.

Insane ehh? I smell it. 😆

Yea he really isn't doing much to namor logically.

if you were a villan who would pose a greater threat?

If you never heard of these characters before, besides what they are capable of doing, who would you give the win?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Insane ehh? I smell it. 😆

lol, it smells like furry mutant, I think there is a short heavy guy with long nails writing this material.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I never said decade and a half, but wolverine has been out for days from an explosion, out from tea, i'm not doing this again.

Of course existence increases popularity, but I can't count how many times spidey has had his ass beaten, I already agree with spidey losing to firelord, but you ignore that wolverine can't beat godzilla, and that he can beat zarathos. YOu funny, anyway wolverine's first showing against the hulk wasn't really spectacular, though he tried, could you really see the original wolverine easily beating hulk, not really. But I already shared with you on how spidy now deals with gamma charged characters.

😮‍💨

i do? care to quote me on that I've never said that wolverine can beat godzilla or zarathos...you are insane...and can wolverine easily beat hulk? no...can spidey "easily beat hulk" NO...what's your point...I've already told you farrrr more instances where wolverine takes more punishment or recovers from said punishment quicker than you TWO that I've had to read over and over and over about cause you got nothin else...

🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine can drop namor easily, but namor's hits don't even make him fall, can you smeel the cis and pis there? 🙂 Daredevil gives him trouble, as well as cap, and you know cap can beat wolverine too right??
By your saying it just sounds like wovlerine is invincible and some people love tht.

Wolverine does well against a ton of human types, Spidey does well against alot of super types. 🙂

you're obsessed doh wolvie vs. spidey? AGAIN?!?!? wtf?

both wolverine and spiderman can beat super types and both of them have had more than a hard time with stret levels...spidey's not any more accountable for his feats than wolvie...nor is he any more exempt from his less than stellar defeats...