Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by jinzin
sneaking up on feral, among other things:

Wolverine uses his speed and stealth to systematically force X-Force to surrender:
1. http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1191/xforcepo8.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7789/xforce2it7.jpg
3. http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9005/xforce3mx4.jpg

good thing Namor can fly 😉

Originally posted by Master-Borg
How will he ambush Namor if Namor is high in the air out of reach? 😕

How will Namor attack him if he is high and out of reach? 😕

This just proves my point, in any upclose confrontation Wolverine will have the advantage, Namor necsesarily has to use plot devices to ain any advantage on Logan whatsoever more often than not.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
How will he ambush Namor if Namor is high in the air out of reach? 😕

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yea, becuase thats so in character for namor to stay completely out of reach.......are you even attempting to make real arguements any more?

I smell a double standard 🙁

Originally posted by jinzin
How will Namor attack him if he is high and out of reach? 😕

This just proves my point, in any upclose confrontation Wolverine will have the advantage, Namor necsesarily has to use plot devices to ain any advantage on Logan whatsoever more often than not.

In strict H2H, Logan has the upper hand

but taking the environment into consideration (trees for bats and river for rejuvenation) Namor has the advantage in this case

Originally posted by jinzin
Cement? The hell are you talking about?

So basically you can' be bothered to acknowledge all of their fight since they all disprove your original thesis.. grand. 🙄

Soljer's right, you are a fool.

I not only acknowledge their fights, I also pointed out why they shouldnt be mischaracterized

Originally posted by Master-Borg
yet its in character for Logan to duck behind a tree and wait for Namor to ambush him?

I smell a double standard 🙁

And you still expect us to believe you read wolverine comics.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
In strict H2H, Logan has the upper hand

but taking the environment into consideration (trees for bats and river for rejuvenation) Namor has the advantage in this case

actaully given the scenerio Logan would have equal if not greater advantage.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you actaully trying to say that it out of character for wolverine to ambush an opponet?

And you still expect us to believe you read wolverine comics.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
in the comics I have read of Wolverine, when Logan is facing a enemy one on one, he does not run off to hide and then wait for the enemy to be ambushed...even when the enemy is far superior to him

They are not starting next to each other they starting on either ends. So yes it completely within character for Logan to uses ambush tactics which he done many a time before versus many different foes

Originally posted by Battlehammer
who saying he running off and hiding?

They are not starting next to each other they starting on either ends. So yes it completely within character for Logan to uses ambush tactics which he done many a time before versus many different foes

where does it say they are starting on either ends? 😕

Originally posted by Master-Borg
in the comics I have read of Wolverine, when Logan is facing a enemy one on one, he does not run off to hide and then wait for the enemy to be ambushed...even when the enemy is far superior to him

Yet Namor who is a king would disgrace his honor by needing to fly up and/or otherwise stay out of Logans reach?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
where does it say they are starting on either ends? 😕

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yet Namor who is a king would disgrace his honor by needing to fly up and/or otherwise stay out of Logans reach?

1. How is it disgraceful to fly to get a better vantage point when your enemy decides to hide among trees? Not only will flying allow better birds eye view to spot Logan, its also faster and more majestic...can you picture Namor walking around looking for a hiding logan?

2. I only said Namor would fly to look for logan when Battlehammer suggested that Logan would hide and try to ambush Namor, which is far more out of character for the angry runt.

thanks cres

Originally posted by Creshosk
from the rules:

.5 km 'in line of sight'

is far different from Hammer's suggestion of them being end to end in the giant central park

Originally posted by Master-Borg
1. How is it disgraceful to fly to get a better vantage point when your enemy decides to hide among trees? Not only will flying allow better birds eye view to spot Logan, its also faster and more majestic...can you picture Namor walking around looking for a hiding logan?

2. I only said Namor would fly to look for logan when Battlehammer suggested that Logan would hide and try to ambush Namor, which is far more out of character for the angry runt.

again why would Namo need to fly at all, all they times they've fought he's only resorted to the tactic once.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
thanks cres

Originally posted by jinzin
again why would Namo need to fly at all, all they times they've fought he's only resorted to the tactic once.

But if Logan decides to hide like a little squirrel up some trees, it only makes sense Namor would fly to get the bird's eye view to find where the runt is hiding. Why would he walk around looking from tree to tree when he can fly up in the air and cover much more distance?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
1. How is it disgraceful to fly to get a better vantage point when your enemy decides to hide among trees? Not only will flying allow better birds eye view to spot Logan, its also faster and more majestic...can you picture Namor walking around looking for a hiding logan?

2. I only said Namor would fly to look for logan when Battlehammer suggested that Logan would hide and try to ambush Namor, which is far more out of character for the angry runt.

actaully for namor to look for wolverine and not fly far out of sight when there are trees every ware is far more incharacter.

How is Logan attempting to ambush namor out of character? Not to mention Jinzin has already posted two events of Logan using such tactics and yet you still have the nerve to suggest it would be out of character for him to do this.

Logan will know were namor is the entire time, namor on the other hand will not be so lucky.

you assume I mean Logna with simply sit in a single area waiting for namor, but thats not what I am saying. I am saying Logan will hunt Namor down and uses his stealth to catch namor unaware which is well within character and abilities.