Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Started by jinzin163 pages
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
DAMN!!! owned! (I'm talking about the pic lol)

moose owns all 😂

It's an elk, and I got the picture but I don't get the credit 🙁

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's an elk, and I got the picture but I don't get the credit 🙁

why not?

Originally posted by jinzin
really? you have the next scan? and was that definitely an animal? (I seem to recall a shapeshifter in that arc)

Yes. Here, check it out. You're wrong again.

Originally posted by jinzin
in either case that's the less consistent feat..

How? He's gotten knocked out by smaller hits than that. I seem to recall Daredevil laying him out with a dumbell. DD is a tough guy, but I don't think he hits as hard as an elk.

Originally posted by jinzin
now why is it that the feats that make wolvie look bad are the ones acceptable to be used? hmmmm.... doesn't have anything to do with anti-bias does it? 😉

Why is it that the feats that make wolvie look good are the ones "acceptable to be used"? Doesn't have anything to do with bias, does it?

Originally posted by jinzin
anywho.... yes I did answer your question... there you go unable to follow the trains again.. here:

So you did. A rational response. So, you admit freely that these much-vaunted higher end feats are inconsistant. Now we're getting somewhere. I'm afraid I have to disagree on the Wolverine/Hulk thing, though. As shown in this thread, he can barely get through Namor's skin. And as we all know, Wolverine originally couldn't harm the Hulk with his claws, until some retconning, so therein lies a significant inconsistancy, to be sure.

And, oh my, you seem to be in nirvana because I overlooked a single response. Bitter much? 😆

Originally posted by jinzin
why not?

To easier to post the pic, rather than say where you got it. Oh well, it was from the AF respect thread.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
To easier to post the pic, rather than say where you go it. Oh well, it was from the AF respect thread.

It's all Mungi! It's his pic. I thought people knew that from the other threads. Sorry, man. Good catch!

Originally posted by Melnorme
Yes. Here, check it out. You're wrong again.

actually I'm not wrong.. 🤨

I was asking questions.. not making a statement... 😕

Originally posted by Melnorme
How? He's gotten knocked out by smaller hits than that. I seem to recall Daredevil laying him out with a dumbell. DD is a tough guy, but I don't think he hits as hard as an elk.
you recall incorrectly.. the dumbell dazed him slightly allowing him to stagger and be knocked off balance by a body onto a sword.. not nearly getting laid out? he even stated that dd jumbled the mind control a bit.. I'm usre that helped.. so far you still need an abundance of proof to make a correct claim in the matter of consistency.. I'll be waiting for this abundance of examples...

Originally posted by Melnorme
Why is it that the feats that make wolvie look good are the ones "acceptable to be used"? Doesn't have anything to do with bias, does it?

if that was the case I would be in support of all those wolverine moments I don't agree with... I use the one's that are consistent.. heavy hitters not putting logan down with multiple hits is far more consistent than wolverine being "laid out" by people of lesser strength... thus makes the feats more useable than the bad ones..

Originally posted by Melnorme
So you did. A rational response. And, oh my, you seem to be in nirvana because I overlooked a single response. Bitter much? 😆
nirvana? that's giving yourself a bit too much credit... lol..

Originally posted by jrodslam
Every time Wolverine fights a person who is stronger, faster etc than him and loses, its PIS/CIS. Sad thing is, almost EVERYTIME Wolverine fights someone who is faster/stronger, they wind up fighting almost like a complete idiot or not to their full abilities. We cant blame the characters, its the writers. Its easy for the fans to say "Wolverine wins cause hes got a healing factor, blah blah." And because thats what happens in most of his fights, it looks as if thats actually the case. However, the punishment Wolverine takes should overload his healing factor about 90% of the time.

Flash is obviously the fastest hero on foot, yet hes always getting tagged by his rogues. Now because that always happens, would it be a accurate statement to say "Flash isnt that fast, cause someones always hitting him." or "Flash can be beat by this person, because this guy has hit him before."? Almost every fight with Flash is PIS/CIS, yet most of us know that written to the fullest of abilities, hed beat just about anyone. Yet it doesnt happen.

Written to their fullest abilities that arent PIS/CIS, Wolverine shuold lose to powerhouses such as Hulk and Namor all the time. How can a healing factor work so fast and efficient when getting hit by 100cl characters? Sabertooth, Deadpool and Hulk all have better healing factors than Wolverine. Everytime he gets multiple hits from these 100cl people, it should overload his "healing factor" and ko him.

Surprisingly, being punched or hit with objects from 100cl characters doesnt ko him, yet bullets do. Go figure. 🙁

Namor wins.

ur the same guy who says daredevil reflexes are on par with spidermans

Originally posted by jinzin
you recall incorrectly.. the dumbell dazed him slightly allowing him to stagger and be knocked off balance by a body onto a sword.. not nearly getting laid out? he even stated that dd jumbled the mind control a bit.. I'm usre that helped.. so far you still need an abundance of proof to make a correct claim in the matter of consistency.. I'll be waiting for this abundance of examples...

He lost the ability to stand, and fell onto a sword. That's a KO.

You can take your unfair burden of evidence and smoke it.

Originally posted by Melnorme
He lost the ability to stand, and fell onto a sword. That's a KO.

You can take your unfair burden of evidence and smoke it.

he was not knocked unconcious.. nor is there any proof he could no longer intelligently defend himself.. it's not a ko.... smoke that!

Originally posted by wolverine8888
ur the same guy who says daredevil reflexes are on par with spidermans

If you knew Daredevil's full abilities, you'd think that too. Plus, whenever DD and Spidey are together most of the time, thats usually the case. 🙄

ya wolverine was fine if it had been normal wolverine not holding abck and trying as ahrd as he could to stop him self from kill daredevil then daredaevil would of died in 4 panels.
the only reason daredevil did not die was form soem major plot devices

Originally posted by jrodslam
If you knew Daredevil's full abilities, you'd think that too. Plus, whenever DD and Spidey are together most of the time, thats usually the case. 🙄

actually I think I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from on this position.. it has a lot to do with why I'm beginning to think wolverine would lose against dd now...

Originally posted by jrodslam
If you knew Daredevil's full abilities, you'd think that too. Plus, whenever DD and Spidey are together most of the time, thats usually the case. 🙄

oh I know DD full abilites and he not as fast reflexes as wolverine and wolverien my favorit character but I aint gunna say that wolverine is on par reflexes with spiderman he close but not on par

Originally posted by jinzin
actually I think I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from on this position.. it has a lot to do with why I'm beginning to think wolverine would lose against dd now...

wolverine has hyper sense as well that allow him to know his opponets moves befor they make them

Originally posted by wolverine8888
ya wolverine was fine if it had been normal wolverine not holding abck and trying as ahrd as he could to stop him self from kill daredevil then daredaevil would of died in 4 panels.
the only reason daredevil did not die was form soem major plot devices

You have to remember that DD was holding back too though. It works both ways.

big diffrence. fighting mind control and just fighting and not trying to kill is way diffrent. wolverine was fighting him self while fighting DD DD was not fighting him self.
plus plot devices saved DD life

Originally posted by wolverine8888
wolverine has hyper sense as well that allow him to know his opponets moves befor they make them

That is such nonsense. Sense of smell and good hearing doesn't make you a precog.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
oh I know DD full abilites and he not as fast reflexes as wolverine and wolverien my favorit character but I aint gunna say that wolverine is on par reflexes with spiderman he close but not on par

lol yeah once again I can acknowledge wolverine is your favorite character however he shouldn't be anywhere near spiderman in reflex's. As far as Namor is concerned he should stuff Wolverine into a little jar and sit him on a watersill in his atlantean home.

DD awosome I think he a great character and eh can hold his own vs the best of them but he just would not win