Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by riceroost

Wolverine was not fighting ANYWHERE near his true ability, so stop whining about Namor getting a raw deal. Wolverine was OBVIOUSLY going easy on him.

And Namor was fighting all-out? Apparently you think that waiting for someone to get their clothes on is fighting fully... 😆

They both were written badly. You notice that I ask that "Do you think that was best that Namor really could do?", and I said nothing about Logan. If you think that is how Namor fights, then you are, well, an idiot.

Originally posted by riceroost
Why is it selling out to have Namor get beat? What does the fact that he came first have to do with anything?

It's seeling out to have him get beat by making him fight like a dumbass.

BUMP!

For Wolvertooth and the Sub-mariner. 🙂.

Originally posted by Soljer
BUMP!

For Wolvertooth and the Sub-mariner. 🙂.

Thanks, but i'm finished with him, i have my opinion and i truly believe it is the right one, i'm not going to change to for him.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Thanks, but i'm finished with him, i have my opinion and i truly believe it is the right one, i'm not going to change to for him.

I agree. Whole heartedly.

I just wanted to see Wolvertooth get owned more often, and in the proper thread.

🙂.

Wolvertooth is simply a fanboy who can't accept the fact that every time Namor fights Wolverine, he does not fight with full power.

I have proven it by analyzing the fights and comparing them to Namor's other showings, showing him the dialogue and how people who would fight all-out would not talk like that, counting the timeframe between different pages and panels and how Namor at his prime would react far faster, showing Namor's fighting feats and how he usually does not fight like that, and showing Namor's speed feats that far, far trump Wolverine and that show that he reacts faster and punches faster then he did in that fight, showing strength feats that show that he can punch with more power then he did in that fight...

Meanwhile, he just says that Namor fights full power without saying why or bothering to prove it.

Don't really know what else to do besides finding some sort of reality-warping machine and increase the number of his braincells, but I yet haven't had any luck with that.

I give it to Namor 7-8/10. So Namor for the advantage.

But Logan can win and has shown his claws can indeed put Namor down and or hurt him.

Examples are in the New Invaders and again in the current fight Logan shows he can claw his way through Namor in vol#3.

But I still give Namor the small advantage with flight-Super-strength.

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Originally posted by Daredevil1
I give it to Namor 7-8/10. So Namor for the advantage.

But Logan can win and has shown his claws can indeed put Namor down and or hurt him.

Examples are in the New Invaders and again in the current fight Logan shows he can claw his way through Namor in vol#3.

But I still give Namor the small advantage with flight-Super-strength.

In forum, the characters fight like they usually do, to best of their ability. In the fights you mentioned, Namor fought somewhere to 0.03% of his ability. 😬

So yes, his claws can put Namor down...but only when Namor fights like a retard who has had his left side of brain removed.

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
i dont read x men comics and i have read namor comics 😠 you stupid #$%&*@

Why are Wolverine fans so rude?

What this thread is 95 pages, I thought this thread was new!

Deep down in their hearts, they know that they lack the stuff other members of humanity has - logic and the ability to be not biased. Thus, they, as they are extremely frustrated, want the rest of the world to suffer as they have, so they post stuff like that.

In forum, the characters fight like they usually do, to best of their ability. In the fights you mentioned, Namor fought somewhere to 0.03% of his ability. erm

So yes, his claws can put Namor down...but only when Namor fights like a retard who has had his left side of brain removed.

Nope Logan has a chance a slim-one as he is more agile and a much better martial artist plus his healing factor helps I imagine.

I mean if you look at Namor's encounters with street-level martial artists you'll see the same. Such names like Captain America and Daredevil thanks to there martial arts abilities.

Sure Namor beats/defeats them but they will make him work for it. Plus Cap and Logan have nice speed feats as well.

To ignore this is them using 0.03% of there skill.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Nope Logan has a chance a slim-one as he is more agile and a much better martial artist plus his healing factor helps I imagine.

He's not more agile, nor is he faster.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I mean if you look at Namor's encounters with street-level martial artists you'll see the same. Such names like Captain America and Daredevil thanks to there martial arts abilities.

Sure Namor beats/defeats them but they will make him work for it. Plus Cap and Logan have nice speed feats as well.

Namor is a noble man, he holds back against weaker opponents. Read the speech bubbles of and you see him state it himself.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
To ignore this is them using 0.03% of there skill.

They have good feats, Namor has better.

He's not more agile, nor is he faster.

He's more agile and has impressive speed feats himself, including Captain America. Heck Logan is so skilled for a ninja-speed-trick Nightcrawler himself coudln't figure out how Logan dissapeared before his very eyes.

Namor is a noble man, he holds back against weaker opponents. Read the speech bubbles of and you see him state it himself.

You do know during invaders Namor hit Logan and sent him flying far away? And you call that holding back. Its not a weak hit guy.

They have good feats, Namor has better.

Agreed but to cry foul is too ignore Logan feats. I mean Thing has tagged Namor many times and yet Thing is no were as agile or as fast as Logan.

Don't get me wrong Namor wins the majority and should win the majority, but Logan can win and has shown that minority in the books.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
He's more agile and has impressive speed feats himself, including Captain America. Heck Logan is so skilled for a ninja-speed-trick Nightcrawler himself coudln't figure out how Logan dissapeared before his very eyes.

He's not more agile. Namor has been practicing agility tricks for 86 years, as flying requires pretty amazing agility, and Namor has perfected his flying.

And Ninja-disappearence trick has more to do with the silence of your moving.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You do know during invaders Namor hit Logan and sent him flying far away? And you call that holding back. Its not a weak hit guy.

Before that (as in when he was punching him), he was holding back by a lot, as he was talking peacefully and clearly not using full force. And after that, he was hovering and talking peacefully above Logan, so he clearly was holding back a lot again...

No punch or attack Namor hits against people like Daredevil or Wolverine even COMPARE to the stuff he does to guys like Hulk or Thor.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Agreed but to cry foul is too ignore Logan feats. I mean Thing has tagged Namor many times and yet Thing is no were as agile or as fast as Logan.

Thing tagging Namor is a low showing. If we use only low showings for characters, you are going to find Logan in very, very, very low level.

It's not really fair to rate Wolverine by his highest speed feats, and leave Namor to the level where he is tagged by Thing.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Don't get me wrong Namor wins the majority and should win the majority, but Logan can win and has shown that minority in the books.

Against Namor who doesn't use his speed, skills or full strength.

He's not more agile. Namor has been practicing agility tricks for 86 years, as flying requires pretty amazing agility, and Namor has perfected his flying.

And Ninja-disappearence trick has more to do with the silence of your moving.

Flying is flying not agility for ground mobility were Logan exceeds. Silence of your moving. This was movement in broad-day light were Logan dissapeared infront of Nightcrawlers eyes. Ninja-magic or chi not just silence movement.

Before that (as in when he was punching him), he was holding back by a lot, as he was talking peacefully and clearly not using full force. And after that, he was hovering and talking peacefully above Logan, so he clearly was holding back a lot again...

No punch or attack Namor hits against people like Daredevil or Wolverine even COMPARE to the stuff he does to guys like Hulk or Thor.

Actually insisted in that fight he would allow Wolverine to win. And considering he sent Logan flying with his strike I doubt he was holding back a lot.

Thing tagging Namor is a low showing. If we use only low showings for characters, you are going to find Logan in very, very, very low level.

It's not really fair to rate Wolverine by his highest speed feats, and leave Namor to the level where he is tagged by Thing.

Thing tagging Namor is a regular feat for Thing. Trying to ignore a feat for Thing is what you are doing. Thing has also tagged the likes of Hulk and Thor and both of these being have also tagged Namor.

Let me guess another low-showing?

Against Namor who doesn't use his speed, skills or full strength.

Namor wins that I agree but to ignore Logan's regular showings is also being biased. Next you'll say Captain America dodging Namor is a low-showing huh?

These are martial art-masters that leave Namor looking like white-belts in the skill departments. Plus factor in Logans crazy healing-ability with unbreakable bones and razar sharp claws that had Namor hurt. Is showing a fight were Logan can win say 3/7.

here is a nice list of namors feats .... look at them and tell me that wolverine can take him out

http://images.google.co.il/imgres?imgurl=http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8922/namorspeedfeat27uj.gif&imgrefurl=http://members5.boardhost.com/Sub-Mariner/msg/3733.html&h=259&w=488&sz=111&hl=iw&start=5&tbnid=ggXjBJy-8tQMaM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dironman%2Bnamor%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Diw%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

Namor wins every single time. Twice on Sundays.

And 3 times on Thursdays.

namor could easily send him flying to queens with one punch