Battlezone:quanchi112 vs nverbeenwthagirl

Started by quanchi11214 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet I have shown DS cosmically manipulating beings via his reality altering chess board. I would like you to also note that Ares is the God of conflict the universe over, he's taken the place of zeus who is part of the quintessence and he's also now taken over Hades power. He's ineffect Two skyfather's in one. I fail to see how You can use ares to try and undermine DS? You can't. You also fail to realize that DS trapped and immobilized the power of GOD according to you. However he came to be in that position is irrelevant. Again, this is not a match up of competancy or Wits. Which DS has plenty of. This is a str8 up power match. And thus far, I've shown that DS has power and strength in spades. Please stop arguing who is the better character and start arguing how Thanos can actually beat DS. So far Thanos looks to be getting his ugly face smashed in.
I have shown you Darkseid losses,incomplete fights to hwere he didnt land a single hit,him backing down from his father,fleeing from his weaker son and you dont want to listen. I will on my next post show why The End is indeed canon.

No this wasnt the power of God. And the only reason this worked is because there was a time when this was possible. Ds knew it. He couldnt halt Ares once he made his ascension so to speak. Cronus absorbed the power of the Presence. It says Presence and doesnt say godwave. I for one think Ares is weaker than Darkseid and High Father. But he still killed High Father and accomplished something that in over thirty years Ds could not accomplish. He beat him once and good as you have shown twenty years agao but Ares delivered the killing blow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have shown you Darkseid losses,incomplete fights to hwere he didnt land a single hit,him backing down from his father,fleeing from his weaker son and you dont want to listen. I will on my next post show why The End is indeed canon.

No this wasnt the power of God. And the only reason this worked is because there was a time when this was possible. Ds knew it. He couldnt halt Ares once he made his ascension so to speak. Cronus absorbed the power of the Presence. It says Presence and doesnt say godwave. I for one think Ares is weaker than Darkseid and High Father. But he still killed High Father and accomplished something that in over thirty years Ds could not accomplish. He beat him once and good as you have shown twenty years agao but Ares delivered the killing blow.

I bore of this thread now. I think i've proven my point. And you keep talking in circles. I have invalidated everything you have said in regards to DS. This doesn't seem like a versus match at all. You have spent more time trying to discredit DS than hyping up Thanos' power. The best we have seen is cool character moments and prep and wits by Thanos. As for Yugah Khan, You might wanna rethink that, becuz Yugah says that DS is the only being who has the power to defeat him. But sons do not kill thier fathers. I take my leave now until my summation tomorrow morning. Good luck.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. DS trapped Ares and He only had less than A second to act. He also trapped the ALE with less than a second to act. So you really think He is incompetant? DS has never loss until Apok now. Since Ares and The ALE entity are both>>>>>>>>>>>>Doomsday, one has to really think hard as to whether DS was indeed tellign the truth. It would seem that DS was telling the truth and that He really hadn't loss. I have already shot down every one of your attempts to demean DS power. They have all failed. And I have given Examples of DS great power, to which Thanos has not a feat in his arsenal to compete with. Now I haven' even begun to list the ways that DS can beat thanos becuz thanos doesn't have the powers to compete.
Ds had to act at the proper time. The only reason he was able to halt it. Yes Ds is incompetent in this story as well. Ares wanted the godwave as did Darkseid but Ares got it. That was Ds goal. He failed meaning he was incompetent.

Ds lost and i have proven it i dont want to restate things over and over again.

Superman can and has defeated Darkseid with all this powers at his disposal. So why cant Thanos who is vastly superior and never once lost to someone like Supeman? Let alone given up and asked for quarter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds had to act at the proper time. The only reason he was able to halt it. Yes Ds is incompetent in this story as well. Ares wanted the godwave as did Darkseid but Ares got it. That was Ds goal. He failed meaning he was incompetent.

Ds lost and i have proven it i dont want to restate things over and over again.

Superman can and has defeated Darkseid with all this powers at his disposal. So why cant Thanos who is vastly superior and never once lost to someone like Supeman? Let alone given up and asked for quarter.

I've already proven that Thanos doesn't have the feats that stack up to superman's. i've also proven that DS says Superman had grown stronger. And superman himself admits that that ONE day he was stronger. Thus validating that DS indeed had NEVER lost before that fight. Since Superman only won one fight, That goes into the catagory of PIS. Thanos stands no chance. Thanos also doesn't have superspeed or agility or skill. To which I have shown DS has spades of. Thanos is clearly out matched. As if DS would engage Thanos in hand to hand anyway. He wouldn't nor would he need to.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I bore of this thread now. I think i've proven my point. And you keep talking in circles. I have invalidated everything you have said in regards to DS. This doesn't seem like a versus match at all. You have spent more time trying to discredit DS than hyping up Thanos' power. The best we have seen is cool character moments and prep and wits by Thanos. As for Yugah Khan, You might wanna rethink that, becuz Yugah says that DS is the only being who has the power to defeat him. But sons do not kill thier fathers. I take my leave now until my summation tomorrow morning. Good luck.
I am talking in circles as I am responding to you and your disregard of my proof. You are obsessed with trying to disregard the Superman losses. Let us both remain mum on the issue for a bit on it. We have both said are piece.

I am glad you brought up that sons do not kill their fathers. Ok Darkseid needed Orion to defeat his father Yuga correct? So Orion can overcome the clause but Darkseid cannot. Orion will kill Ds one day and overcome it anyways. Maybe Darkseid isnt strong enough mentally to override this clause while Orion is. And Darkseid doing nothing and being actually fearful of his father has nothing to do with his clause. While Thanos actually confronted Tyrant on his own simply for the challenge aspect of it. I draw parallels here and try to tie things together. You have to because both these characters are from different universes and dont interact with the same characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am talking in circles as I am responding to you and your disregard of my proof. You are obsessed with trying to disregard the Superman losses. Let us both remain mum on the issue for a bit on it. We have both said are piece.

I am glad you brought up that sons do not kill their fathers. Ok Darkseid needed Orion to defeat his father Yuga correct? So Orion can overcome the clause but Darkseid cannot. Orion will kill Ds one day and overcome it anyways. Maybe Darkseid isnt strong enough mentally to override this clause while Orion is. And Darkseid doing nothing and being actually fearful of his father has nothing to do with his clause. While Thanos actually confronted Tyrant on his own simply for the challenge aspect of it. I draw parallels here and try to tie things together. You have to because both these characters are from different universes and dont interact with the same characters.

Thanos sought out Tyrant for fun. DS didn't seek out Yugah. It's not in his character to go around picking fights with beings he cannot defeat. Even tho technically he is powerful enough. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. DS is a tyrant who seeks to break the will of the universe. Thanos likes to challenge himself and aquire more power. Two completely differnt beings with different motives. And Tyrant had done nothing impressive of his own power. He Beat Galactus with tech and prep. And we know for a fact he didnt' beat galactus at full power becuz he got DEPOWERED. Yugah>>>>>Tyrant.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've already proven that Thanos doesn't have the feats that stack up to superman's. i've also proven that DS says Superman had grown stronger. And superman himself admits that that ONE day he was stronger. Thus validating that DS indeed had NEVER lost before that fight. Since Superman only won one fight, That goes into the catagory of PIS. Thanos stands no chance. Thanos also doesn't have superspeed or agility or skill. To which I have shown DS has spades of. Thanos is clearly out matched. As if DS would engage Thanos in hand to hand anyway. He wouldn't nor would he need to.
Alright this is the last thing on Superman. Him saying that day he was stronger simply mean this. I am not done with Thanos feats yet and he has never lost to anyone on Superman's level. Not one time here and you act as if Superman is superior? How? Thanos is on another level.

I also need proof that your theory adds up. You are specualting and you know it. When has speed coupled with power factor in with any of Thanos losses. You saying that Thanos hasnt met anyone like Ds is just as easily thrown around.

Here let me show you and I have scans that back up my claims. When has Darkseid met anyone on Thanos level with regards to durability and power. He doesnt have durability or the hand to hand power to match Thanos. Here is my evidence that isnt just speculation. He couldnt last more than a few panels with Doomsday. Meaning when he got hit it hurt and really really badly. Thanos did better against Tyrant who clearly had him beat in overall power. The guy was hurting Galactus and also note that Galactus knew he was coming.

So right there you have Thanos actually taking more punishment from Tyrant and leaving on his own. Darkseid passed out and didnt lay a finger on Doomsday. Superman had to save his life. Whereas Thanos took the orb as a trphy from the battle and left on his own accord.

My theories have evidence backing them up while yours are based on your own speculation.

😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos sought out Tyrant for fun. DS didn't seek out Yugah. It's not in his character to go around picking fights with beings he cannot defeat. Even tho technically he is powerful enough. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. DS is a tyrant who seeks to break the will of the universe. Thanos likes to challenge himself and aquire more power. Two completely differnt beings with different motives. And Tyrant had done nothing impressive of his own power. He Beat Galactus with tech and prep. And we know for a fact he didnt' beat galactus at full power becuz he got DEPOWERED. Yugah>>>>>Tyrant.
Please note judges that Galactus knew Tyrant was coming. Galactus fed on a world and was ready for Tyrant. Tyrant simply countered Galactus.

See every fight does not have the same outcome.

Let me show you.

Galactus vs Tyrant the first time...winner Galactus
Galactus vs Tyrant the second time...no winner as the un messed things up but Tyrant was winning.

Darkseid vs Raker the first time....winner Darkseid
Darkseid vs Raker the second time....no winner as the fight was completely different and was stopped due to intereference by the guardians.

Darkseid vs Superman
Ds has won some and Superman has won some with a stalemate in there.

Do you see a pattern here. Every fight has different variables and different circumstances. Just because someone wins their first battle with someone else that does not mean they are superior for all time.

That is why you just cant say that Tyrant cannot defeat Galactus. Every fight is different.

I hope i proved my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Alright this is the last thing on Superman. Him saying that day he was stronger simply mean this. I am not done with Thanos feats yet and he has never lost to anyone on Superman's level. Not one time here and you act as if Superman is superior? How? Thanos is on another level.

I also need proof that your theory adds up. You are specualting and you know it. When has speed coupled with power factor in with any of Thanos losses. You saying that Thanos hasnt met anyone like Ds is just as easily thrown around.

Here let me show you and I have scans that back up my claims. When has Darkseid met anyone on Thanos level with regards to durability and power. He doesnt have durability or the hand to hand power to match Thanos. Here is my evidence that isnt just speculation. He couldnt last more than a few panels with Doomsday. Meaning when he got hit it hurt and really really badly. Thanos did better against Tyrant who clearly had him beat in overall power. The guy was hurting Galactus and also note that Galactus knew he was coming.

So right there you have Thanos actually taking more punishment from Tyrant and leaving on his own. Darkseid passed out and didnt lay a finger on Doomsday. Superman had to save his life. Whereas Thanos took the orb as a trphy from the battle and left on his own accord.

My theories have evidence backing them up while yours are based on your own speculation.

😛

If that is what you want to call it. Doomsday is Superior in Hand to hand to Thanos, Superman, and DS. And Yet DS did manage to get a knock down, ko, what ever you want to call it. At any rate, DS had never been defeated up until Apok now. Avatar anyone? I tend to think so. The Thanos Tyrant Thing is good and all. But Tyrant hurt big G with tech and prep. And Thanos fought Tyrant with prep and a weapon. DS never even got to face DD in hand to hand. He was blitzed from behind. I have also posted scans showing Superman doing feats that Thanos has never done. So Thanos being superior means the big donut to me. We are done.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Please note judges that Galactus knew Tyrant was coming. Galactus fed on a world and was ready for Tyrant. Tyrant simply countered Galactus.

See every fight does not have the same outcome.

Let me show you.

Galactus vs Tyrant the first time...winner Galactus
Galactus vs Tyrant the second time...no winner as the un messed tjhings up but Tyrant was winning.

Darkseid vs Raker the first time....winner Darkseid
Darkseid vs Raker the second time....no winner as the fight was completely different and was stopped due to intereference by the guardians.

Darkseid vs Superman
Ds has won some and Superman has won some with a stalemate in there.

Do you see a pattern here. Every fight has different variables and different circumstances. Just because someone wins their first battle with someone else that does not mean they are superior for all time.

That is why you just cant say that Tyrant cannot defeat Galactus. Every fight is different.

I hope i proved my point.

Oh have you now? 😕

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If that is what you want to call it. Doomsday is Superior in Hand to hand to Thanos, Superman, and DS. And Yet DS did manage to get a knock down, ko, what ever you want to call it. At any rate, DS had never been defeated up until Apok now. Avatar anyone? I tend to think so. The Thanos Tyrant Thing is good and all. But Tyrant hurt big G with tech and prep. And Thanos fought Tyrant with prep and a weapon. DS never even got to face DD in hand to hand. He was blitzed from behind. I have also posted scans showing Superman doing feats that Thanos has never done. So Thanos being superior means the big donut to me. We are done.
Ds managed to land his omega beams and knock Doomsday under rubble. We are not debating Doomsday and Thanos and all you have is speculation.

I have already restated myself countless times with regards to this. Note judges that I am moving on as I think my reasoning has already been thoroughly explained with what is nver is responding to at this time.

Like any good debator he saves his best for last.
This scan proves that Thanos did indeed save the universe with the heart of the universe.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0108-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0109.jpg

Ok now let us break down this scan after you take a look at it.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0110.jpg

He has given himself a number of life assuring wishes. This is Thanos final amp. Nver brought up Adam Warlock and his turning of Thanos into stone feat two amps ago. I will delve deep into Thanos latest feats as this was the strongest we have seen Thanos. I have already shown you Thanos defeat the Hunger. This is after this final upgrade of Thanos here that he gave himself as he gave up the mantle of supremacy.

This ancient scan proves that Thanos is also capable of turning someone into stone.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/CaptainMarvelv1-26-18.jpg
He has manipulated matter here on an atomic level. Thanos also achieved this alive unlike Adam Warlock and two permanent amps ago.

Here is another scan further touching on some of Thanos abilities and accomplishments.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/NovaCorpsFilespage44.jpg

Please note judges that this also canonizes the end. If you pay attention closely at the top of the page on this scan.Right after threat level it says one-time reality ender. Thus referencing the only time he ended all of reality during The End which i have also already backed up with a scan from Thanos issue 1. This was a few posts back.

This is Thanos demonstrating how powerful he really had become since his final permanent amp.

Note how far back he knocks the mighty Galactus.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0506.jpg

Now he just wants to talk to Galactus and this is prior to Galactus releasing the interdimensional being known as the Hunger. I previously posted the scans of what happened afterwards of what I am showing you on this post.

Here are the remainder of scans in this encounter with Galactus.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0507.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0508.jpg

One last comment here before I show the final scan. Listen to Galactus's words as they give immense credit to Thanos personal tech here with regards to his forcefield.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0509.jpg

Galactus uses the word never here. He has been around since the dawn the this universe and gives Thanos top billing here as to his forcefields and the amount of power he had to use to pierce it.

Now I am going to show you two scans of what Galactus is capable of.

He has just been freed here and isnt well fed in the slightest and he was being drained but fed enough to stay alive.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation5-010.jpg

Here he acts and beings his decimation of the immense annihilation wave.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation6-005.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation6-006-007.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation6-009-1.jpg

Make a note here that the scan says that this blast was encompassing three star systems with no sign of slowing down. So it covered three of them at a bare minimum. Wow is that power.

Galactus was well fed when Thanos sent him flying but in this annihilation wave scan he was to the point of starving. So of course Thanos couldnt best him on his power level alone but with what I have just showed you I think this show of power stands tall here.

I am posting these scans for two very important reasons.

1.This is another response to Darkseid's feats and his role in protecting his universe.
2.This shows the kind of blasts that Thanos can take from Omega who is twice as powerful as Galactus. Another bunch of scans backing up my claim that Thanos can take lots and lots of punishment before being defeated.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/09.jpg
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http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/26-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/27-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/28.jpg

These next two scans prove Thanos can take a blast from a being twice as powerful as Galactus.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/29.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/30.jpg

Now the conclusion.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/31.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/32.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/33.jpg

Also lets come back to nver's statement of Darkseid being able to hurt the Spectre now. For one he did phase the Spectre and this is indeed a strong showing of his offensive power. but we must also look at how he was oneshotted by the Spectre. The only reason he survived was because of his importance to the universe. He couldnt survive the blast on his own. The universe wont remake him here in this one on one bout with Thanos.

Keep this in mind.

Isn't it over now. Its been over a day since this started.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Like any good debator he saves his best for last.
This scan proves that Thanos did indeed save the universe with the heart of the universe.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0108-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0109.jpg

This has nothing to do with a fight between the two beings DS and Thanos. And proves nothing of Thanos' own power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok now let us break down this scan after you take a look at it.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0110.jpg

He has given himself a number of life assuring wishes. This is Thanos final amp. Nver brought up Adam Warlock and his turning of Thanos into stone feat two amps ago. I will delve deep into Thanos latest feats as this was the strongest we have seen Thanos. I have already shown you Thanos defeat the Hunger. This is after this final upgrade of Thanos here that he gave himself as he gave up the mantle of supremacy.


IN the End it was argued that Thanos became God by yourself and others. Thanos here says in THIS universe he became the supreme being. Exactly what amps did the 616 version of Thanos give himself? Speculative.