WWH vs Wonder Woman w/twist

Started by Juntai15 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh come now hulk fan, this feat has just been debunked. Its not a strength feat. Its more aof a durability feat, he was launched into the asteroid of an unknown substance and unknown density. We don't know how hallow it was.

To keep claiming this was a strength feat when it was just posted just now is sheer desperation.

Much like the "hulk thunderclaps a dimension" was revealed some time ago that other factors were involved, including the energies from the guy whom created the pocket dimenion in the first place.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Because it was the force of him being launched that destroyed the object in question. Thus its a feat of durability.

A bullet by itself is harmless. you fall on it no big deal. A bullet that has the force of being launched from a gun behind it can now puncture metal.

This statement is almost laughable. It clearly shows that you have made ur own assumption without evn reading the panel. The scientist that launched the hulk there were themselves wonderin how the hulk was going to destroy the asteroid. IT was there on panel. The scientist had originally planned for the hulk to use there antimagnetic device and his STRENTGH. to destroy the asteroid. Them using the force of the rocket springs to simply shoot the hulk into the object is ridiculous because not only was it NOT stated or implied, it is evn contradicted by the statement one of the people makes when the hulk takes off without the technology. " How does he intend to destroy the asteroid when he reaches it". The scientist who designed the rocket springs would have known the intention of strapping hulk with the rocket springs. And they made this intention very very clear on the page. IT WAS NOT TO HURL HULK INTO SPACE TO RAM THE ASTEROID. This is just plain foolish. Nothing has been debunked

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Calling into question the density of the asteroid is really reaching. The hulk was NOT simply launched into the asteroid. Evn before being sent into space, the scientist who sent the hulk wanted to strap him with an anti magnetic device to destroy the asteroid. The hulk howver left without that device, and the scientist wondered how he was going to destroy the asteroid. It was certainly not their intention to destroy the asteroid simply by launching the hulk into it. Thats is simply baseless.

Exactly. Which is why I say Hulk being launched towards an asteriod = how characters that have flight do it. Think of it as a demonstration of how "strong" Hulk could prove to be with flight. 🙂

This is exactly why I say any strength feats suck that utilize flight to accomplish.

Originally posted by Juntai
What kind of speed are we talking about?

Handspeed, able to block lasers from tons of angles? Check.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww4218ic.jpg

Afterimages, able to clock Flash, and take on the JLA, while blind? Check.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla19qx.jpg

Running with Flash to create a vortex? Check.
http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=JLA43pg09.jpg

"I move with the speed of Hermes". Check.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5421/12052005023752am4xg.jpg

Searching the globe with Flash and Superman? Check
http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033122em.jpg

None of that is going to help you survive,
when WWH drives his hands into the ground with you attached a mere 2 feet from his massive fists.

Hulk has such a size and strength advantage, 😆 he could beat her senseless by doing jumping jacks....while her feet would never touch the ground.

Originally posted by Juntai
What kind of speed are we talking about?

Handspeed, able to block lasers from tons of angles? Check.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww4218ic.jpg

Afterimages, able to clock Flash, and take on the JLA, while blind? Check.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla19qx.jpg

Running with Flash to create a vortex? Check.
http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=JLA43pg09.jpg

"I move with the speed of Hermes". Check.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5421/12052005023752am4xg.jpg

Searching the globe with Flash and Superman? Check
http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033122em.jpg

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She's far too skilled/fast for WWH to touch her.

Originally posted by The Pict
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She's far too skilled/fast for WWH to touch her.

Not while cuffed a mere 2 feet away. Next these guys will say she will vibrate at superspeeds through Hulk's arm (practically the size of an oak tree to her) while being swung around in mid air..... 😮

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Not while cuffed a mere 2 feet away. Next these guys will say she will vibrate at superspeeds through Hulk's arms while held in mid air..... 😮

😱 She tears his arm off!

I'm actually serious, buddy. Jokey smilies aside you think someone with Diana's Amazon fighting experience doesn't know how to dismember someone?
She takes his arm off at super speeds, which she has the strength to do and as pointed out before WWH's durability isn't that great, and it's game over as she can completely outmaneuver him.

I might reply to your fanboy response when I get back from work 😛

Originally posted by The Pict
😱 She tears his arm off!

I'm actually serious, buddy. Jokey smilies aside you think someone with Diana's Amazon fighting experience doesn't know how to dismember someone?
She takes his arm off at super speeds, which she has the strength to do and as pointed out before WWH's durability isn't that great, and it's game over as she can completely outmaneuver him.

I might reply to your fanboy response when I get back from work 😛

😘 How? Not only is he stronger, Do you have any idea how much mass and how dense WWH's body is? She can't even manage getting her arms around his. Especially while cuffed a mere 2 feet away from his hand. There's not enough leverage.

She can try this as "quickly" as she can, but its pointless and just not gonna happen. Hulk's arm is almost longer than Wonderwomans body and at least 2 or 3 times as wide.

WWH could sit there and let her try for hours. 😆

Ripping off arms = phail. If anything she loses body parts far easier than he does . WWH is more durable, stronger, as well as has much thicker more solidified bodymass than she does.

Originally posted by Juntai
What kind of speed are we talking about?

Handspeed, able to block lasers from tons of angles? Check.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww4218ic.jpg

Afterimages, able to clock Flash, and take on the JLA, while blind? Check.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla19qx.jpg

Running with Flash to create a vortex? Check.
http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=JLA43pg09.jpg

"I move with the speed of Hermes". Check.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5421/12052005023752am4xg.jpg

Searching the globe with Flash and Superman? Check
http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033122em.jpg

Most of these scans are irrelevant and have no relation whatsoever with displaying superspeed in direct physical combat with another being.

Incidents like the first scan i have addressed many times and frankly it has nothing to do with proving her speed in direct physical combat. I hve never disputed her ability to block objects lasers coming at fast speeds. It her speed in direct physical combat against another being that im calling into question.

Probably the most credible scan in the bunch, is the second scan but evn it does not prove much. The only display of speed is her tagging flash who is evidently not moving that fast as the others in the picture are not far behind him. Evn so being able to tag a being who is coming straight at you does NOT prove that u can engage that being in direct physical combat at fast speeds or continuously attack at high speeds. Its like the hulk tagging quicksilver. It DOES NOT mean that the hulk can engage quicksilver in sustained physical combat at high speeds or evn mean that the hulk can in combat continuously initiate attacks at high speeds. This is also not the first time the flash has been hit by slower beings. Now if she had warded off numerous superfast attacks from flash lets say an attempted speedblitz, i would have had to change my opinion of her.

Running with flash to create a vortex also proves next to nothing as it has nothing to do with direct physical combat.

The scan with her saying she moves with the speed of hermes is irrelevant also as all we see is her flying into a guy at some vague speed. I could equally show a scan of iron man plowing into hulk. Once again it is not a display of her speed in a direct physical exchange with another being such as fast punching, kicking and dodging of opponents blows.

Searching the globe with supes is pure travel speed and also irrelevant.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Calling into question the density of the asteroid is really reaching.
Not in the slightest. its assumed that its made of the same material as earth in some of the previous calculations... Prove it.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
The hulk was NOT simply launched into the asteroid. Evn before being sent into space, the scientist who sent the hulk wanted to strap him with an anti magnetic device to destroy the asteroid. The hulk howver left without that device, and the scientist wondered how he was going to destroy the asteroid. It was certainly not their intention to destroy the asteroid simply by launching the hulk into it. Thats is simply baseless.
Keep telling yourself for that. Doesn't change the fact that its not the feat that people claim it is. he was launched, part of the force was used in the launch. It's an endurance feat. Don't like that fact? Well that's a crying shame. Hulk fans seem to overhype and misrepresent his feats. Almost proving that the feats alone aren't good enough. Sorry, its the truth.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Most of these scans are irrelevant and have no relation whatsoever with displaying superspeed in direct physical combat with another being.
and you claim others are reaching?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Incidents like the first scan i have addressed many times and frankly it has nothing to do with proving her speed in direct physical combat. I hve never disputed her ability to block objects lasers coming at fast speeds. It her speed in direct physical combat against another being that im calling into question.
Because moving her arms at speeds great enough to block lasers, has no relevance to moving her arms fast enough to deal with other attacks?

"Oh she can move her arms, fast enoiugh to block lasers? Doesn't mean she can move them fast to block fists! And it doesn't mean she can move them as fast as lasers!"

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Probably the most credible scan in the bunch, is the second scan but evn it does not prove much. The only display of speed is her tagging flash who is evidently not moving that fast as the others in the picture are not far behind him. Evn so being able to tag a being who is coming straight at you does NOT prove that u can engage that being in direct physical combat at fast speeds or continuously attack at high speeds. Its like the hulk tagging quicksilver. It DOES NOT mean that the hulk can engage quicksilver in sustained physical combat at high speeds or evn mean that the hulk can in combat continuously initiate attacks at high speeds. This is also not the first time the flash has been hit by slower beings. Now if she had warded off numerous superfast attacks from flash lets say an attempted speedblitz, i would have had to change my opinion of her.
"He wasn't attempting to speedblitz! him being hit proves it!"

reaching...

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Running with flash to create a vortex also proves next to nothing as it has nothing to do with direct physical combat.
"Her being able to move her legs fast enough to do that, doesn't mean she can move her legs fast in combat!"

You have either as narrow scope and are not a combatant due to inability to perceive how to use such feats in combat or are being intentionally intellectually dishonest. Seeing as how you defend debunked feats, I'm thinking that you like to be dishonest.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
The scan with her saying she moves with the speed of hermes is irrelevant also as all we see is her flying into a guy at some vague speed. I could equally show a scan of iron man plowing into hulk. Once again it is not a display of her speed in a direct physical exchange with another being such as fast punching, kicking and dodging of opponents blows.
"You asking for quantification of a feat is reaching! but I can point out a lack of quantification!"

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Searching the globe with supes is pure travel speed and also irrelevant.
again, you are a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Creshosk
and you claim others are reaching?

Because moving her arms at speeds great enough to block lasers, has no relevance to moving her arms fast enough to deal with other attacks?

"Oh she can move her arms, fast enoiugh to block lasers? Doesn't mean she can move them fast to block fists! And it doesn't mean she can move them as fast as lasers!"

"He wasn't attempting to speedblitz! him being hit proves it!"

reaching...

"Her being able to move her legs fast enough to do that, doesn't mean she can move her legs fast in combat!"

You have either as narrow scope and are not a combatant due to inability to perceive how to use such feats in combat or are being intentionally intellectually dishonest. Seeing as how you defend debunked feats, I'm thinking that you like to be dishonest.

"You asking for quantification of a feat is reaching! but I can point out a lack of quantification!"

Hypocrite.

again, you are a hypocrite.

I showed panels of several different types of feats involving speed in and out of combat, and in different situations. All of them completely disregarded, lol.

And that was only after a couple minutes of searching.

Searching the globe with Flash and Superman? Check
http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?...jla033122em.jpg

err......that was supes and flash "searching the globe"
diana was still in the park, genius 😐

......why are we talking about WW ripping hulk's arm off, when she couldn't even break out of a chokehold put on her by BATMAN? and the last time i checked, bats wasn't meta. she's got nothing going for her but speed......which is quite less than being suggested considering that she is leagues behind supes and flash. speedblitz is not happening. that pic posted proves it. on top of that, speedblitz won't neccessarily put down someone like Hulk who can equally trade blows with someone like Thor.

Originally posted by Sado22
err......that was supes and flash "searching the globe"
diana was still in the park, genius 😐
-A- park, unless you think 'search the globe at speeds only we can achieve' meant Diana only had to go 25 meters.

Here's another, of her somewhere else a moment later. As well as Flash and Superman being in new locations.
http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033144xw.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
What kind of speed are we talking about?

Handspeed, able to block lasers from tons of angles? Check.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww4218ic.jpg

Afterimages, able to clock Flash, and take on the JLA, while blind? Check.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla19qx.jpg

Running with Flash to create a vortex? Check.
http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=JLA43pg09.jpg

"I move with the speed of Hermes". Check.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5421/12052005023752am4xg.jpg

Searching the globe with Flash and Superman? Check
http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033122em.jpg

Wonder Woman can do the invisible superspeed trick? Check.
http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla033211rg.jpg

Originally posted by Sado22
......why are we talking about WW ripping hulk's arm off, when she couldn't even break out of a chokehold put on her by BATMAN? and the last time i checked, bats wasn't meta. she's got nothing going for her but speed......

shock

wow... just, wow...

Originally posted by Sado22
......why are we talking about WW ripping hulk's arm off, when she couldn't even break out of a chokehold put on her by BATMAN?

batman

-A- park, unless you think 'search the globe at speeds only we can achieve' meant Diana only had to go 25 meters.
Here's another, of her somewhere else a moment later. As well as Flash and Superman being in new locations.
http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?...jla033144xw.jpg

......seems to be near the place where she was. supes and flash are in china and egypt while diana is in the park. the next panel they're somewhere else while diana is around the park. sorry, but doesn't spell "faster than ligth" to me.

and really, why would they have supes and flash go to recognizable places in the globe and shove diana in some random park withou a hint to where it is?

wow... just, wow...

if you want, i can find the pic for you, "unbiased moderator" 😬