WWH vs Wonder Woman w/twist

Started by Juntai15 pages

Originally posted by Sado22
......seems to be near the place where she was. supes and flash are in china and egypt while diana is in the park. the next panel they're somewhere else while diana is around the park. sorry, but doesn't spell "faster than ligth" to me.

and really, why would they have supes and flash go to recognizable places in the globe and shove diana in some random park withou a hint to where it is?

if you want, i can find the pic for you, "unbiased moderator" 😬

Where did I say anything about faster than light?
I was posting feats of superspeed for people who were discounting or discrediting her ability.
And you don't have to be faster than light, to be vastly faster than Hulk.

I said exactly what the comic suggested, them searching the globe.

They were looking for specific targets, in both the first scan I showed, and the next, they were each looking at a different person in a different location.

The very idea they said "search the globe", and "speeds that only we can achieve", clarifies the intent of the action, that she didn't run twenty feet and see one, then turn a corner and see another.

From the scans I've posted so far it's quite clear that she has superspeed reaction and reflexes, land and air speed, and even has the ability to be invisible from moving so fast. If you absolutely need another speed feat, read her respect thread.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not in the slightest. its assumed that its made of the same material as earth in some of the previous calculations... Prove it.

Keep telling yourself for that. Doesn't change the fact that its not the feat that people claim it is. he was launched, part of the force was used in the launch. It's an endurance feat. Don't like that fact? Well that's a crying shame. Hulk fans seem to overhype and misrepresent his feats. Almost proving that the feats alone aren't good enough. Sorry, its the truth.

You have proved nothing and completely disregarded what is stated on panel!! You keep saying its an endurance feat yet i have proven you wrong on evry front by simply reading the damn page. First of all try to grasp the fact that the scientist that launched the hulk DID NOT launch him with enough force to destroy the asteroid simply by crashing into it. IT IS CLEARLY SHOWN ON PANEL THAT THIS WAS NOT THEIR INTENTION!! Your purely senseless and overwhelming bias has blinded u to that simple fact. Its an endurance feat us say? Prove it with on panel evidence for crying out loud. IT is clearly stated that the springs are to get hulk there and he is to then use his STRENTGH to destroy it!! What is so hard for you to understand about that? They evn doubted that the hulk could destroy the asteroid with strength alone and hence wanted to use an antimagnetic device in addition to his strength. Did u evn read the paghe? All indications and evidence on the page prove that the hulk was to use his strength to destroy it but do to ur unfathomable bias u choose to blatantly ignore them and instead focus on a point that is not only unproveable but highly illogical. And then what do u use to defend ur argument? nothing but statements like" Its the truth", " Its an endurance feat", " Dont like that fact" other PATHETIC statements without providing an iota of proof.

HOW EXTREMELY PATHETIC!!

Originally posted by Creshosk
and you claim others are reaching?

Because moving her arms at speeds great enough to block lasers, has no relevance to moving her arms fast enough to deal with other attacks?

"Oh she can move her arms, fast enoiugh to block lasers? Doesn't mean she can move them fast to block fists! And it doesn't mean she can move them as fast as lasers!"

"He wasn't attempting to speedblitz! him being hit proves it!"

reaching...

"Her being able to move her legs fast enough to do that, doesn't mean she can move her legs fast in combat!"

You have either as narrow scope and are not a combatant due to inability to perceive how to use such feats in combat or are being intentionally intellectually dishonest. Seeing as how you defend debunked feats, I'm thinking that you like to be dishonest.

"You asking for quantification of a feat is reaching! but I can point out a lack of quantification!"

Hypocrite.

again, you are a hypocrite.

As i have siad b4 u are just PITIFUL!! Now once again u show ur failure to comprehend simple arguments. My entire argument has been that Wonderwoman in her entire history has failed to show battle speed when in direct physical exchanges with others and because of this lack of ON PANEL EVIDENCE, we cannot simply attribute it to her. . And what do u provide me with? Examples showing her travel speed or examples which in theory mean she should be able to do it. My main argument howver has been that no matter how many feats she has that mean she should be able to speedblitz her LACK OF ON PANEL FEATS in which she actually performs a blitz takes priority because the SUPREME AUTHORITY in comic debates is not what should and should not be possible by our own logic but NON PIS ON PANEL EVENTS!!!!!!!! Can you put aside ur bias for evn a moment to grasp that simple fact?

The first scan shows wonderwoman showing her ability to block lasers from numerous angles. This is something i have agreed to entirely. The problem howver lies with her failure to show any of this speed throughout most of her comic history when in a direct physical exchange with another being. These are the scans that need to be provided!!! This is because her on panel history supports the claim that in direct physical combat wonderwoman can be hit by slow beings. Now dont go calling PIS unless u are willing to label her entire on panel history PIS.

Nextly you once more show ur inability to comprehend anything but ur own biased notions. In the scan where she hit flash i stated that the flash was not moving that fast as the others were not far behind him. This is why i said that it does NOT display her speed in SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL COMBAT. For one she only tagged the flash. Evn u should know that tagging a superfast charcter does not mean u can engage in sustained physical combat with that charcter or initiate continous superfast attacks against that charcter i.e hulk quicksilver.
Secondly the flash was not even moving that quickly in the scan! If she had warded off a numerous amount of attacks from the flash while he was moving at a considerably greater speed then it would have proved something.

The next scan shows her creating a vortex with flash. I do NOT think this needs to be repeated. What is required is ON PANEL EVIDENCE OF HER engaging someone in sustained direct physical exchange at superspeeds. Have u finally understood? Not scans that show that she should be able to do it because her ON PANEL history when in direct physical combat has shown that she is unable to replicate the same thing during such exchanges. And i beg of you to try and personally debunk that planetoid feat. Stop saying it has been debunked by others without providing any proof urself. By the way who debunked the feat? How can anybody debunk a feat that on panel evidence clearly proves?
You are plainly ridiculous 😆 😂

Calling me a hypocrite without evn properly understanding my argument shows ur debating ineptitude. My description of her speed as vague was NOT the central point of that argument. It was simply a passing comment. Did u not read the part where i put" it is not a display of her speed in a direct physical exchange with another being such as fast punching, kicking and dodging of opponents blows". RAMMING INTO OPPONENT DOES NOT SHOW HER SPEED IN A SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL EXCHANGE WITH AN OPPONENT!!!!!!!! I pray u can understand this. 🙄

And for the last scan how am i a hypocrite? Or do u not know the difference between travel and combat speed? Or is ur seething bias simply blinding u? Better yet are u totally ignoring context on purpose?
Whichever one it is obvious you have formulated some biased notions in ur mind and have very poor comprehension abilities. You obviously have no idea what im actually debating and hence ur extremely stupid responses. Very sad 🙁

Originally posted by Juntai
I showed panels of several different types of feats involving speed in and out of combat, and in different situations. All of them completely disregarded, lol.

And that was only after a couple minutes of searching.

Let me simplify this.

1. The speed we are concerned with is her speed in sustained physical exchanges with other beings. Her on panel history has shown it to be poor. Check

2. Practically none of ur scans show this. Check

3. Ur scans therefore prove nothing and are irrelevant. Check

4. Based on this they were disregarded. Check

Try searching harder. I have nothing against wonderwoman and i would like to see scans of her displaying her speed in sustained physical exchanges but nothing evn close to that has bin provided.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You have proved nothing and completely disregarded what is stated on panel!!
I'm not disregarding anything that's on panel, Hulk was launched into the asteroid. You seem to see something other than hihm being launched at the asteroid. But that's okay, we already know how intellectually dishonest you are.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You keep saying its an endurance feat yet i have proven you wrong on evry front by simply reading the damn page.
Lying about something does not constitute as proof.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
First of all try to grasp the fact that the scientist that launched the hulk DID NOT launch him with enough force to destroy the asteroid simply by crashing into it.
And yet that's what happened. Shame you don't know a thing about physics.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
IT IS CLEARLY SHOWN ON PANEL THAT THIS WAS NOT THEIR INTENTION!!
It doesn't matter if that's not their intention, that's what happened. Appeal to motive fallacy = violation of the rules of logic = invalid argument = fail = you.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Your purely senseless and overwhelming bias has blinded u to that simple fact.
Have I ever mentioned what a hypocrite you are? Cause yeah, you're hypocrite-ing it up again. Accusing others of bias when you're extremely hypocritical about what scans prove what? "Oh it was just some lines after it being stated on panel that she was moving at incredible speeds! That doesn't prove anything! Oh, it was stated on panel that it was not their intention so just having him fly into it proves me right!"

Extremely hypocritical and biased.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Its an endurance feat us say? Prove it with on panel evidence for crying out loud.
Its right there, he's launched into it and just by flying into it with both fists out he destroys the asteroid. Can't you even read what's been presented?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
IT is clearly stated that the springs are to get hulk there and he is to then use his STRENTGH to destroy it!!
Except that he'd still have the force of the launch with him. and he just flys straight into it. its NOT all Hulk's strength being used in the feat. He barely even moves. HE just takes being launched into the asteroid.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
What is so hard for you to understand about that? They evn doubted that the hulk could destroy the asteroid with strength alone and hence wanted to use an antimagnetic device in addition to his strength. Did u evn read the paghe?
Appeal to motive fallacy. *shrugs* Yeah I read the page. but I'm not so biased as to distort the feat out of proportion of what it really is.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
All indications and evidence on the page prove that the hulk was to use his strength to destroy it
"Was to" "intended to"

Woulda, should coulda, didn't. IT doesn't matter what the "intent" was. Its NOT what happened. This is bordering into being as bad as arguing with a storm fan boy about storm flying on solar winds. No Storm did not fly on solar winds. That's not the way science works with what was depicted despite what the character was saying. And so same here, No. that's not what happened because thats not the way science works either.

I'm not going to believe that after being launched with escape velocity that all that force and momentum suddenly disappeared. Energy, such as kinetic energy, simply doesn't dissappear. An object in motion will stay in motion until acted upon by another force. There is no air, thus no friction, in space. So all that force of his launch had to be negated by something... oh yeah, the asteroid. all that force of his launch, enough to launch the hulk into space was applied to the asteroid. All Hulk did was hold his hands out in front of him. So in essence the asteroid was destroyed by a mean green, bullet.

Physics is not on your side. and insulting me and calling me biased will simply get you reported and either you banned, warned or the thread closed because you cannot remain civil about it.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
but do to ur unfathomable bias
Yup, I'm biased towards the truth, logic and science. Sorry, I don't give into fanboyism.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
u choose to blatantly ignore them and instead focus on a point that is not only unproveable but highly illogical.
There is nothing illogical about assuming that the laws of physics are in place, and that there is not enough evidence to state its a strength feat.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
And then what do u use to defend ur argument? nothing but statements like" Its the truth", " Its an endurance feat", " Dont like that fact" other PATHETIC statements without providing an iota of proof.
As opposed to you saying "it was stated on panel" (it was not) or calling me biased.. or doing the same exact thing or even claiming you proved things. (when you haven't)

Have I ever mentioned what a hypocrite you are? Cause yeah, you're like the very definition of hypocrite.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
HOW EXTREMELY PATHETIC!!
How extremely reported.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
As i have siad b4 u are just PITIFUL!! Now once again u show ur failure to comprehend simple arguments. My entire argument has been that Wonderwoman in her entire history has failed to show battle speed when in direct physical exchanges with others and because of this lack of ON PANEL EVIDENCE, we cannot simply attribute it to her. . And what do u provide me with? Examples showing her travel speed or examples which in theory mean she should be able to do it. My main argument howver has been that no matter how many feats she has that mean she should be able to speedblitz her LACK OF ON PANEL FEATS in which she actually performs a blitz takes priority because the SUPREME AUTHORITY in comic debates is not what should and should not be possible by our own logic but NON PIS ON PANEL EVENTS!!!!!!!! Can you put aside ur bias for evn a moment to grasp that simple fact?

The first scan shows wonderwoman showing her ability to block lasers from numerous angles. This is something i have agreed to entirely. The problem howver lies with her failure to show any of this speed throughout most of her comic history when in a direct physical exchange with another being. These are the scans that need to be provided!!! This is because her on panel history supports the claim that in direct physical combat wonderwoman can be hit by slow beings. Now dont go calling PIS unless u are willing to label her entire on panel history PIS.

Nextly you once more show ur inability to comprehend anything but ur own biased notions. In the scan where she hit flash i stated that the flash was not moving that fast as the others were not far behind him. This is why i said that it does NOT display her speed in SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL COMBAT. For one she only tagged the flash. Evn u should know that tagging a superfast charcter does not mean u can engage in sustained physical combat with that charcter or initiate continous superfast attacks against that charcter i.e hulk quicksilver.
Secondly the flash was not even moving that quickly in the scan! If she had warded off a numerous amount of attacks from the flash while he was moving at a considerably greater speed then it would have proved something.

The next scan shows her creating a vortex with flash. I do NOT think this needs to be repeated. What is required is ON PANEL EVIDENCE OF HER engaging someone in sustained direct physical exchange at superspeeds. Have u finally understood? Not scans that show that she should be able to do it because her ON PANEL history when in direct physical combat has shown that she is unable to replicate the same thing during such exchanges. And i beg of you to try and personally debunk that planetoid feat. Stop saying it has been debunked by others without providing any proof urself. By the way who debunked the feat? How can anybody debunk a feat that on panel evidence clearly proves?
You are plainly ridiculous 😆 😂

Calling me a hypocrite without evn properly understanding my argument shows ur debating ineptitude. My description of her speed as vague was NOT the central point of that argument. It was simply a passing comment. Did u not read the part where i put" it is not a display of her speed in a direct physical exchange with another being such as fast punching, kicking and dodging of opponents blows". RAMMING INTO OPPONENT DOES NOT SHOW HER SPEED IN A SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL EXCHANGE WITH AN OPPONENT!!!!!!!! I pray u can understand this. 🙄

And for the last scan how am i a hypocrite? Or do u not know the difference between travel and combat speed? Or is ur seething bias simply blinding u? Better yet are u totally ignoring context on purpose?
Whichever one it is obvious you have formulated some biased notions in ur mind and have very poor comprehension abilities. You obviously have no idea what im actually debating and hence ur extremely stupid responses. Very sad 🙁

Sorry, I only briefly skimmed this then reported you for bashing and trolling. If you can't be civil I'm not even going to bother.

And from now on I'm just going to report you each time you bash someone rather than warning you that I reported you. Hopefully you'll learn some civility.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Sorry, I only briefly skimmed this then reported you for bashing and trolling. If you can't be civil I'm not even going to bother.

And from now on I'm just going to report you each time you bash someone rather than warning you that I reported you. Hopefully you'll learn some civility.

Your accusing me of bashing and trolling? Who first called who a hypocrite? or dishonest? What incredible double standards. I was simply making an argument that u failed to understand and u started calling me a dishonest hypocrite. I responded as anyone would and u report me ?
How ironic that ur trying to talk about civility.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
As i have siad b4 u are just PITIFUL!! Now once again u show ur failure to comprehend simple arguments. My entire argument has been that Wonderwoman in her entire history has failed to show battle speed when in direct physical exchanges with others and because of this lack of ON PANEL EVIDENCE, we cannot simply attribute it to her. . And what do u provide me with? Examples showing her travel speed or examples which in theory mean she should be able to do it. My main argument howver has been that no matter how many feats she has that mean she should be able to speedblitz her LACK OF ON PANEL FEATS in which she actually performs a blitz takes priority because the SUPREME AUTHORITY in comic debates is not what should and should not be possible by our own logic but NON PIS ON PANEL EVENTS!!!!!!!! Can you put aside ur bias for evn a moment to grasp that simple fact?

The first scan shows wonderwoman showing her ability to block lasers from numerous angles. This is something i have agreed to entirely. The problem howver lies with her failure to show any of this speed throughout most of her comic history when in a direct physical exchange with another being. These are the scans that need to be provided!!! This is because her on panel history supports the claim that in direct physical combat wonderwoman can be hit by slow beings. Now dont go calling PIS unless u are willing to label her entire on panel history PIS.

Nextly you once more show ur inability to comprehend anything but ur own biased notions. In the scan where she hit flash i stated that the flash was not moving that fast as the others were not far behind him. This is why i said that it does NOT display her speed in SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL COMBAT. For one she only tagged the flash. Evn u should know that tagging a superfast charcter does not mean u can engage in sustained physical combat with that charcter or initiate continous superfast attacks against that charcter i.e hulk quicksilver.
Secondly the flash was not even moving that quickly in the scan! If she had warded off a numerous amount of attacks from the flash while he was moving at a considerably greater speed then it would have proved something.

The next scan shows her creating a vortex with flash. I do NOT think this needs to be repeated. What is required is ON PANEL EVIDENCE OF HER engaging someone in sustained direct physical exchange at superspeeds. Have u finally understood? Not scans that show that she should be able to do it because her ON PANEL history when in direct physical combat has shown that she is unable to replicate the same thing during such exchanges. And i beg of you to try and personally debunk that planetoid feat. Stop saying it has been debunked by others without providing any proof urself. By the way who debunked the feat? How can anybody debunk a feat that on panel evidence clearly proves?
You are plainly ridiculous 😆 😂

Calling me a hypocrite without evn properly understanding my argument shows ur debating ineptitude. My description of her speed as vague was NOT the central point of that argument. It was simply a passing comment. Did u not read the part where i put" it is not a display of her speed in a direct physical exchange with another being such as fast punching, kicking and dodging of opponents blows". RAMMING INTO OPPONENT DOES NOT SHOW HER SPEED IN A SUSTAINED DIRECT PHYSICAL EXCHANGE WITH AN OPPONENT!!!!!!!! I pray u can understand this. 🙄

And for the last scan how am i a hypocrite? Or do u not know the difference between travel and combat speed? Or is ur seething bias simply blinding u? Better yet are u totally ignoring context on purpose?
Whichever one it is obvious you have formulated some biased notions in ur mind and have very poor comprehension abilities. You obviously have no idea what im actually debating and hence ur extremely stupid responses. Very sad 🙁

guys, any more personal jibes (like the example above) and the thread is finished, its gone on long enough already...

wwh 10/10, theres nothing that wonderwoman could physically do to the hulk.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Your accusing me of bashing and trolling? Who first called who a hypocrite?
All that means is that you're doing what you're accusing others of doing. If you don't like it don't do it. Its a thing that can be easily fixed and is hardly an insult. Think of it more like a warning light going off that will allow you to fix behavior that you might not approve of. If you don't care about doing things that you accuse others of then its like water off of a duck's back. Its simply the fastest most efficient way of letting you know about behavior that is easily correctable that you might not be aware of.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
or dishonest? What incredible double standards.
You were being dishonest. Again, a simple little warning light of behavior that you might not be aware of. There's no double standard about it. If your fly was down at a party you'd appreciate someone telling you wouldn't you?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I was simply making an argument that u failed to understand and u started calling me a dishonest hypocrite.
No, it was a bad argument that failed to make its point as it was invalid. I understood exactly what you were saying. And I was letting you know your fly was down. And then you started resorting to actual insults by calling me pathetic and biased and now more recently stupid. Which is a bit more aggressive than simply letting you know about behavior you might be unaware of.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I responded as anyone would and u report me ?
If you responded with a civil tone, no I wouldn't report you. But things like pathetic and stupid and most definitely insults.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
How ironic that ur trying to talk about civility.
Yeah, you probably expected me to respond by flaming you back just as you flamed me. But I'm not going to call you pathetic nor stupid. I will let you know that your zipper is down so that you can fix it or if you don't mind that your zipper is down, I'll ask why you even bother wearing pants.

Originally posted by Sado22
if you want, i can find the pic for you, "unbiased moderator" 😬

because one scan will erase years of feats that say otherwise?

also, before claiming bias, try having a damn clue what you're talking about...

Originally posted by Raoul
guys, any more personal jibes (like the example above) and the thread is finished, its gone on long enough already...

Does this mean you're warning the DC folk, or only the Marvel folk as usual? I mean you ban / warn people who stick up for Marvel, but people who toss insults left and right who back DC characters don't even get an indication of a warning. Gotta love KMC. 😂

Not according to KMC rules it won't. 🙂

No Mentioning Events of PIS

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

And I'd say Batman putting Wonder Woman into a lock she couldn't get out of counts as well.. makes me think of Black panther putting Silver Surfer in a lock he couldn't get out of.

And this is a follow up support of your post, Raoul.

Originally posted by Raoul
because one scan will erase years of feats that say otherwise?

also, before claiming bias, try having a damn clue what you're talking about...

This forum is blatantly DC biased, you warn / ban Marvel backers all the time and let the DC people talk sh!t all day without so much as a warning, any outsider can see that in an instant. For you to act like you don't prefer DC debaters is laughable.

Originally posted by Kutulu
This forum is blatantly DC biased, you warn / ban Marvel backers all the time and let the DC people talk sh!t all day without so much as a warning, any outsider can see that in an instant. For you to act like you don't prefer DC debaters is laughable.
That's a funny thing to be saying to someone sporting a cyclops signature... Do you have any clue about whom you're talking to?

Just because hulk wank isn't as defended as you'd like it to be doesn't mean the forum is DC biased.

Originally posted by Kutulu
This forum is blatantly DC biased, you warn / ban Marvel backers all the time and let the DC people talk sh!t all day without so much as a warning, any outsider can see that in an instant. For you to act like you don't prefer DC debaters is laughable.

I totally agree, I almost get banned everyday if I dont vote for either batman, superman, or wonderwoman. Da** Im scared to post sometimes and Im a grown as man. By the way please dont argue with creshok because thats a most definite ban. Sometimes I think that he is a mod due to how many people he or she have gotten banned. If you bring up something he/she write it off as pis and then he say that you are trolling and will report you which would resort in you getting banned.

So if you continue to argue with him and you end up getting banned please remember I warned you.

Originally posted by Sado22

if you want, i can find the pic for you, "unbiased moderator" 😬
If you have a problem with a mod then take it to a PM. But throwing around scans without context, using very low feats and making false accusations isn't how we do things on KMC.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Does this mean you're warning the DC folk, or only the Marvel folk as usual? I mean you ban / warn people who stick up for Marvel, but people who toss insults left and right who back DC characters don't even get an indication of a warning. Gotta love KMC. 😂
Then take your "debate" somewhere else. You won't be breaking any hearts by leaving. I thought the month ban you got after your last meltdown would have helped you realize what's acceptable on KMC.

Sado and Kutulu consider this a warning to both of you.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Does this mean you're warning the DC folk, or only the Marvel folk as usual? I mean you ban / warn people who stick up for Marvel, but people who toss insults left and right who back DC characters don't even get an indication of a warning. Gotta love KMC. 😂

your appalling behaviour on this board has been an absolute and utter disgrace, and you have little if any basis for your so-called argument...

i didnt know fangirl101 was a marvel fan, and guess who asked for her to be banned? yes, that's right, idiot.

go whine to greg pak for all i care, but don't you even think that you can start this shit with me.

Originally posted by Kutulu
This forum is blatantly DC biased, you warn / ban Marvel backers all the time and let the DC people talk sh!t all day without so much as a warning, any outsider can see that in an instant. For you to act like you don't prefer DC debaters is laughable.

dc fans dont post PORN.

the marvel fans cause more trouble than the DC ones, FACT.

there are more marvel fans than dc ones in this board, FACT. and its been that way for a LONG time.

guess what, im a marvel fan, just as much if not moreso than dc. but bar fangirl, i rarely have trouble with dc fans getting all bent out of shape, misrepresenting scans and misbehaving.

believe me, don't believe me, i don't care. my sig and the shitload of marvel comics i have in drawer-boxes can't be argued with...

Originally posted by carver9
wwh 10/10, theres nothing that wonderwoman could physically do to the hulk.

Except beat him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not disregarding anything that's on panel, Hulk was launched into the asteroid. You seem to see something other than hihm being launched at the asteroid. But that's okay, we already know how intellectually dishonest you are.

Lying about something does not constitute as proof.

And yet that's what happened. Shame you don't know a thing about physics.

It doesn't matter if that's not their intention, that's what happened. Appeal to motive fallacy = violation of the rules of logic = invalid argument = fail = you.

Have I ever mentioned what a hypocrite you are? Cause yeah, you're hypocrite-ing it up again. Accusing others of bias when you're extremely hypocritical about what scans prove what? "Oh it was just some lines after it being stated on panel that she was moving at incredible speeds! That doesn't prove anything! Oh, it was stated on panel that it was not their intention so just having him fly into it proves me right!"

Extremely hypocritical and biased.

Its right there, he's launched into it and just by flying into it with both fists out he destroys the asteroid. Can't you even read what's been presented?

Except that he'd still have the force of the launch with him. and he just flys straight into it. its NOT all Hulk's strength being used in the feat. He barely even moves. HE just takes being launched into the asteroid.

Appeal to motive fallacy. *shrugs* Yeah I read the page. but I'm not so biased as to distort the feat out of proportion of what it really is.

"Was to" "intended to"

Woulda, should coulda, didn't. IT doesn't matter what the "intent" was. Its NOT what happened. This is bordering into being as bad as arguing with a storm fan boy about storm flying on solar winds. No Storm did not fly on solar winds. That's not the way science works with what was depicted despite what the character was saying. And so same here, No. that's not what happened because thats not the way science works either.

I'm not going to believe that after being launched with escape velocity that all that force and momentum suddenly disappeared. Energy, such as kinetic energy, simply doesn't dissappear. An object in motion will stay in motion until acted upon by another force. There is no air, thus no friction, in space. So all that force of his launch had to be negated by something... oh yeah, the asteroid. all that force of his launch, enough to launch the hulk into space was applied to the asteroid. All Hulk did was hold his hands out in front of him. So in essence the asteroid was destroyed by a mean green, bullet.

Physics is not on your side. and insulting me and calling me biased will simply get you reported and either you banned, warned or the thread closed because you cannot remain civil about it.

Yup, I'm biased towards the truth, logic and science. Sorry, I don't give into fanboyism.

There is nothing illogical about assuming that the laws of physics are in place, and that there is not enough evidence to state its a strength feat.

As opposed to you saying "it was stated on panel" (it was not) or calling me biased.. or doing the same exact thing or even claiming you proved things. (when you haven't)

Have I ever mentioned what a hypocrite you are? Cause yeah, you're like the very definition of hypocrite.

How extremely reported.

. The hulk was not simply launched INTO the asteroid to destroy it this is obvious as it is NOT the intention of the scientists. It is instead stated that the hulk is to use the rocket springs to get there and then use his STRENGTH to destroy it. Clearly there on panel!

IF this was the intention of the scientist IT would have bin clearly stated. Howver u seem to not care about what the scientist said they were doing and have decided to come to ur own conclusions. 😱 Also if the rocket springs had been designed to simply shoot hulk into the asteroid with enough force for him to destroy it, it would have been clearly stated. So unless they somehow got an upgrade then we can assume they performed as they were originally designed.

And you really dont want to get into a physics argument with me. Im simply pointing out what all the all panel evidence points to. Ur business if u choose to ignore it.

Let me give u a better equation or should i say inequality. Facts stated or implied by the creators of the rocket springs and hulk himself>>>>than baseless opinion.

The hulk uses a double fisted punch to destroy the asteroid and since we can determine that the springs do not have the power to destroy the asteroid by simply ramming hulk into it from statements by creators of the springs this is verified. Physics is NOT on ur side as it is obvious that the springs DO NOT have the force to destroy the asteroid by launching the hulk into it. And really after first calling me a dishonest hypocrite why are u so worked up about the fact i called u biased? Choosing to ignore statements made by the designers of the equipment regarding its functionality certainly qualifies as biased. You keep talking about the force of the launch without evn comprhending the fact that the force of the launch was not enough to destroy the asteroid by simply ramming the hulk into it. I bet the scientist who created it did not know the power of their own equipment 🙁 . Laughable 😆