Originally posted by h1a8🤨 a statue to......how is she moving so fast around him when the hulk is attached to her?
WWH isn't necessarily stronger than Diana. But since WWH is a statue to her then she just cuts his head off with the tiara or just punches him a billion times a second to ko him.
and since when does ww have the speed force?
Originally posted by h1a8
WWH isn't necessarily stronger than Diana. But since WWH is a statue to her then she just cuts his head off with the tiara or just punches him a billion times a second to ko him.
Show me wonder woman punching someone a billion times in a second. I can help you more, show me wonder woman punching someone 10 times before they can react.
Also show me a strength feat comparable to wwh holding a planet together that diana has done.
I'll be waiting.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WW is stronger and by far the better fighter , WWH won't last long. Diana 8/10
No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it .
Originally posted by darthgoober
No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
[B]Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it . [/B]
I said she is stronger and the better fighter, not cooler (though you are right, she is) 🙄
I don't care what you insist, all vs threads are about opinions and I haven't seen you complain when an poster above me posten that WWH is much stronger then WW, without proving it, so maybe you should think about your own anti-DC bias 😉.
Do all the Marvel fans back up their opinions, I only know few and those are not in this thread. 😐 Real debates are very rare here it seems.
They demmand but won't give prove. So you read my opinion, like you read all other opinions before, accept it or don't I really don't care 😉 .
Btw "we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. " this is funny, who is we? 😄
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I said she is stronger and the better fighter, not cooler (though you are right, she is) 🙄I don't care what you insist, all vs threads are about opinions and I haven't seen you complain when an poster above me posten that WWH is much stronger then WW, without proving it, so maybe you should think about your own anti-DC bias 😉.
Do all the Marvel fans back up their opinions, I only know few and those are not in this thread. 😐 Real debates are very rare here it seems.
They demmand but won't give prove. So you read my opinion, like you read all other opinions before, accept it or don't I really don't care 😉 .Btw "we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. " this is funny, who is we? 😄
I just want to know what brought you to the conclusion that ww is stronger then wwh. If you want a feat of wwh, Im going to bring up him using brute strength to hold a planet together, now what feat are you going to bring up about diana.
Originally posted by carver9
I just want to know what brought you to the conclusion that ww is stronger then wwh. If you want a feat of wwh, Im going to bring up him using brute strength to hold a planet together, now what feat are you going to bring up about diana.
There are many but one is enough, together with Superman holding onto the body of the spectre, which is heavier then anything hulk has ever tried to lift 🙂.
Anyway, you know the Dance Carver 😉, in the end the DC and the Marvel side will have to agree that they will never agree.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I said she is stronger and the better fighter, not cooler (though you are right, she is) 🙄
And the rule specifically mentions that if you make the claim that one character is stronger you have to provide proof to back it up.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I don't care what you insist, all vs threads are about opinions and I haven't seen you complain when an poster above me posten that WWH is much stronger then WW, without proving it, so maybe you should think about your own anti-DC bias 😉.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Do all the Marvel fans back up their opinions, I only know few and those are not in this thread. 😐 Real debates are very rare here it seems.
They demmand but won't give prove. So you read my opinion, like you read all other opinions before, accept it or don't I really don't care 😉 .
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Btw "we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. " this is funny, who is we? 😄
Originally posted by darthgoober
And the rule specifically mentions that if you make the claim that one character is stronger you have to provide proof to back it up.I'm familiar with most of the strength feats of both WW and Hulk and I'm already of the opinion that WWH's stronger, that's why I didn't bother asking for any proof on behalf of the Hulk. On the other hand you might have some feat of WW's that I'm unaware of that might change my mind, so it makes more sense for me to seek evidence from your side.
The opposition being wrong doesn't automatically make you right. I myself pretty much ALWAYS back up any claim I make before anyone even bothers to ask, and whenever something I say gets called into question I typically have a scan ready to prove my point. If guys like you would start following suit then maybe there'd be more in the way of what you call "real debates".
The "we" is the forum as a whole. See it's not MY rule(if that's what your thinking), what I posted was directly copied from the forum rules.
That rule seems to be ignored most of the time 😐. I'm sure not by you 😉
So you don't bother asking for prove because you are familiar with most str feats of both chars but only if the poster shares your subjective opinion? 🙂
Interesting
You have your opinion and that's good enough for you, I'm familiar with the str feats of both chars too but I don't bother to ask for prove because I'm already of the opinion that WW is stronger. 😐
I haven't seen you back up, or participate, in this discussion as you claim, I don't know you but I'm willing to believe you, though not in this thread, and "pretty much ALWAYS" seems kind of hard to believe too... anyway if guys like you would start treating all poster alike, we might indeed have some "real debates." gathering
Till then you have your opinion, which isn't right just because you think the oposition is wrong, and I have mine 🙂.
So you are some kind of speaker for this Forum? I feel honored to be picked by you youpi
No offense 😉 but you are funny
How heavy is the body of the spectre? The feat is highly unquantifiable. Not to mention supes and wondy were not really holding it up. As for arguments saying wondy hits a million times ina second. They are RIDICULOUS!!!. She has NO feats that justify this. She HAS NEVER come evn close to showing this kind of speed in direct physical combat and until she does such arguments cant be used. WWH is considerably stronger than WW and will just get evn stronger throughout. Her flight is also curtailed by the specifications of this thread. Hulk dynamic durbility and strength give him the win undoubtedly
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
That rule seems to be ignored most of the time 😐. I'm sure not by you 😉So you don't bother asking for prove because you are familiar with most str feats of both chars but only if the poster shares your subjective opinion? 🙂
Interesting
You have your opinion and that's good enough for you, I'm familiar with the str feats of both chars too but I don't bother to ask for prove because I'm already of the opinion that WW is stronger. 😐I haven't seen you back up, or participate, in this discussion as you claim, I don't know you but I'm willing to believe you, though not in this thread, and "pretty much ALWAYS" seems kind of hard to believe too... anyway if guys like you would start treating all poster alike, we might indeed have some "real debates." gathering
Till then you have your opinion, which isn't right just because you think the oposition is wrong, and I have mine 🙂.
So you are some kind of speaker for this Forum? I feel honored to be picked by you youpi
No offense 😉 but you are funny
And of course I don't ask for proof of things that I already believe/agree with, that would be utterly ridiculous. See I don't actually support any particular opinion UNTIL I see proof on the matter. In the past I've looked at the available strength feats of both WW and the Hulk and IMO what I saw from Hulk was more impressive.
In case you haven't noticed, I myself haven't actually made the claim that WWH was stronger than WW in this thread yet because I don't know for sure whether or not she's had any major feats of strength since I last checked. That's why I was seeking proof of the claim that WW's stronger before I threw in my two cents on the fight itself.
As for the rest, feel free to ask around about my debating standards and techniques. I can almost guarantee that you won't find a single poster who'll contradict anything I said in regards to my providing proof to support all my arguments.