is killing animals alright?{vegetarianism/buddhism etc}

Started by Rogue Jedi18 pages

Trophy Hunting? That goes back to it being a sport, which it is not.

Wait...sooooo....wait for it......

The brain that mother nature gave us to become superior hunters, which also gave us the need to entertain ourselves through complex sociological interactions, is artificial?

It is really hard for me to grasp why using tools that we have made with our brain power-the same power mother nature gave us-is wrong. I understand killing for sport with no intent to eat or use for shelter, etc. is really just unnatural...but creating humongous farms to house hundreds of thousands of chickens for food isn't unnatural...it is mother natures way of equipping us with the ability to cope with a large population that has extremely complex sociol positions.

Now all of that is null an void if you think that "we are all divine beings created by God" or in other words, we are spiritual beings having a physical experience. In that case...yes, we are held very much responsible for wasting the blessing of Earth and all of its wonders...

Using a gun to kill another animal for food-Natural

Using a gun to kill another animal for a trophy or to say that you did it-unnatural.

Now here's one for you guys:

Is it unnatural to kill an animal with your bare hands in self defense that normally could kill a human?

Is this animal attacking me, or am I killing it because I NEED the food?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Is this animal attacking me, or am I killing it because I NEED the food?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Is it unnatural to kill an animal with your bare hands in self defense that normally could kill a human?
Originally posted by Creshosk

thanks man!

I don't really see much of a point to this natural - unnatural argument, I fly on aeroplanes, drink beer full of chemical sprays, drive a car etc etc. All of which, following this argument, is unnatural.

The issue should surely be whether killing with a gun for fun, is acceptable, I believe it not to be. Killing for food, as far as I'm concerned is absolutely fine.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I don't really see much of a point to this natural - unnatural argument, I fly on aeroplanes, drink beer full of chemical sprays, drive a car etc etc. All of which, following this argument, is unnatural.

The issue should surely be whether killing with a gun for fun, is acceptable, I believe it not to be. Killing for food, as far as I'm concerned is absolutely fine.

these hunters who consider it a sport, thats why they do it, for the fun. the whole sport argument is pathetic.

Right, yeah, but don't you think this whole discussion's got rather hung up on strange specifics? What I mean is, I don't care if they consider it a fantastic way to inspire poetry, it's needless and that's what I take offense to. I also don't care if they use guns, throwing knives, their hands or enlist in the help of bloody Jackie Chan; it's their motivation for the killing that matters to me, not the weapon used.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Is it unnatural to kill an animal with your bare hands in self defense that normally could kill a human?

I need people to answer this question...there is no right or wrong answer...explain your reason as well.

Not really natural, as the flight or fight response would dictate that it's natural to run from predators that can kill us.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Right, yeah, but don't you think this whole discussion's got rather hung up on strange specifics? What I mean is, I don't care if they consider it a fantastic way to inspire poetry, it's needless and that's what I take offense to. I also don't care if they use guns, throwing knives, their hands or enlist in the help of bloody Jackie Chan; it's their motivation for the killing that matters to me, not the weapon used.
I agree with you 110% on this, and yes, it has taken a detour.

To go back on topic. I think killing animals is something we humans can morally do, I think we should decrease suffering to a reasonable extent, but in the end we don't have any real obligation towards other species. Set is in my moral view.

I'm not sure where the debate took a detour toward is it morally right or wrong (Subjective anyway) to kill animals in certain ways and what not.

I swear this all stemmed from Quiero's comment about natural defenses being enough against a gun.

-AC

Well here's something I had read. To eat an animal that is scared upon being killed is eating their released flight or fright hormones.

Do you even try anymore?

-AC

Try what... 🙁

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not sure where the debate took a detour toward is it morally right or wrong (Subjective anyway) to kill animals in certain ways and what not.

I swear this all stemmed from Quiero's comment about natural defenses being enough against a gun.

-AC

Well, I just said to bring it back on topic.

So you kill an animal for your own suspense?

Animal lover or no animal lover, that's just intense cruelty.

-AC


Why is it worse than killing an animal for food? There are alimentary alternatives to meat.

Originally posted by backdoorman
Why is it worse than killing an animal for food? There are alimentary alternatives to meat.

You're asking that seriously...?

-AC

WOW.....