is killing animals alright?{vegetarianism/buddhism etc}

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well I already know that you're gun-phobic, so I would expect something like that out of you.

That's what I'm saying, ey. Humans don't have fangs and talons, so ancient man needed to do something about catching game and fending off predators, so he put his mind to work. So the gun, is simply the evolutionary point we reached from hand-held sharpened flint rocks.

do you agree that hunting is a "sport?"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
back then man HAD to catch game in order to survive. now, just go to the rear aisle of the market and it is already wrapped in cellophane.

do you agree that hunting is a "sport?"

If your definition of sport requires a ref and a ball, then no it isn't.

If you don't like, then don't do it. It's that simple.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If your definition of sport requires a ref and a ball, then no it isn't.

If you don't like, then don't do it. It's that simple.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well I already know that you're gun-phobic, so I would expect something like that out of you.

How exactly do you see it? As completely natural and O.K?

I don't care whether you kill it with a gun, your hands, or bloody brainwaves; you're killing something for entertainment. Taking away life so you can have fun, seems pretty disgusting to me.

Perhaps if a few more people in the U.S were 'gun-phobic', there wouldn't be so much flooding the news of shootings.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
How exactly do you see it? As completely natural and O.K?

I don't care whether you kill it with a gun, your hands, or bloody brainwaves; you're killing something for entertainment. Taking away life so you can have fun, seems pretty disgusting to me.

Perhaps if a few more people in the U.S were 'gun-phobic', there wouldn't be so much flooding the news of shootings.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

I don't care whether you kill it with a gun, your hands, or bloody brainwaves; you're killing something for entertainment. Taking away life so you can have fun, seems pretty disgusting to me.

Then don't do it.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

Perhaps if a few more people in the U.S were 'gun-phobic', there wouldn't be so much flooding the news of shootings.

"If it bleeds, it leads." Gun crimes are over-emphasized, and over-reported in the news. That's why it seems so common.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am asking YOUR definition of it.

Yeah, I consider it one.

I must say, you're the first Texan I've seen who doesn't like hunting.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah, I consider it one.

I must say, you're the first Texan I've seen who doesn't like hunting.

any fatass redneck can hide in a stand and pop some poor innocent deer with a .30 06. does that make the fatass redneck an athlete? do you see Larry the Cable Guy in the next olympics?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple. most people end up killing a lot of animals, for eating meat, just killing because they might bite or be a nuisance or might creep you out{bugs} or just crush under our feet vbecause we cant be bothered. alternatively, people torture things like frogs an bugs out of sadistic cruelty n stuff.

animals and bugs, unlike plants do have higher brains. they are self aware, and have emotions. why is it ok to kill or hurt them? i do not understand. as far as food goes, i myself am not a vegetarian{due to circumstances} but am trying to become one. there is also the fact that many people enjoy hunting and thing of it as SPORT, and at the same time, many meat eaters/hunters etc, will find it very disturbing if sumthing taboo like a dog or cat is killed? rent these double standards?

i do not deny that as biological organisms, we were meant to eat both meat and veggies, but as humans with the ability to think, is it really ok to kill animals just to satisfy our taste buds? or simply because we do not consider them worthy of being on the same level as us? or because we can not be bothered?

what are your views, relegious/personal etc.

It's all a part of the Circle of Life ans we are apart of that circle as well. We just kill animals more efficiently.

So yes, killing animals to eat is alright.

Killing animals for their fur and sperm and the such isn't okay in my opinion though since it isn't necessary, where as eating is necessary.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK...so do you agree that all sports should be played on an even field, or that some should be given ridiculous advantages?

any fatass redneck can hide in a stand and pop some poor innocent deer with a .30 06. does that make the fatass redneck an athlete? do you see Larry the Cable Guy in the next olympics?

Target shooting is actually an Olympic event, so we might see him in Beijing next year...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Target shooting is actually an Olympic event, so we might see him in Beijing next year...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Then don't do it.

What do you mean 'then don't do it'? That argument doesn't really work here does it? I'm taking offence to other people's actions, of course I'm not going to do it, I see no need for me, you, or anyone else to kill for entertainment, there's plenty of thing to keep everyone entertained which don't involve ending a life.
The argument of 'then don't do it' works very well with topics like abortion, because it's the right argument to take there, because there it's not talking about a living breathing animal, which up until you feel the need to shoot it has the power to actively live. So, do you feel entirely justified in shooting animals? If so, why?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
"If it bleeds, it leads." Gun crimes are over-emphasized, and over-reported in the news. That's why it seems so common.

No, they are pretty darn common, I wonder why...

Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple. most people end up killing a lot of animals, for eating meat, just killing because they might bite or be a nuisance or might creep you out{bugs} or just crush under our feet vbecause we cant be bothered. alternatively, people torture things like frogs an bugs out of sadistic cruelty n stuff.

animals and bugs, unlike plants do have higher brains. they are self aware, and have emotions. why is it ok to kill or hurt them? i do not understand. as far as food goes, i myself am not a vegetarian{due to circumstances} but am trying to become one. there is also the fact that many people enjoy hunting and thing of it as SPORT, and at the same time, many meat eaters/hunters etc, will find it very disturbing if sumthing taboo like a dog or cat is killed? rent these double standards?

i do not deny that as biological organisms, we were meant to eat both meat and veggies, but as humans with the ability to think, is it really ok to kill animals just to satisfy our taste buds? or simply because we do not consider them worthy of being on the same level as us? or because we can not be bothered?

what are your views, relegious/personal etc.

It's the Circle of Life and we are apart of that Circle, we just kill animals in a more efficient manner.

So yes, it's alright to kill animals as long as it's for eating. I don't however agree with the killing of animals for their sperm and fur and horns and other such materials etc...

Animals that are killed in Scientific Experimentation is a whole different topic that I really don't want to touch on.

Killing animals keeps their numbers in check and prevents the over population of species. It's a natural part of life.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
Animals kill other animals to survive yes?

It's the Circle of Life and we are apart of that Circle, we just kill animals in a more efficient manner.

So yes, it's alright to kill animals as long as it's for eating. I don't however agree with the killing of animals for their sperm and fur and horns and other such materials etc...

Animals that are killed in Scientific Experimentation is a whole different topic that I really don't want to touch on.

Killing animals keeps their numbers in check and prevents the over population of species. It's a natural part of life.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
What do you mean 'then don't do it'? That argument doesn't really work here does it?

It's not an arguement, its a statement. Just like if someone is anti-drugs, it doesn't give them the authority to go around telling people to stop.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
So, do you feel entirely justified in shooting animals? If so, why?

Yes; it's fun and perfectly legal.

You honestly think I'm going to stop because some kid half my age (who has a soft spot for cute woodland creatures) is telling me to?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

No, they are pretty darn common, I wonder why...

There aren't 15 school shootings a week, I guarantee you.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple. most people end up killing a lot of animals, for eating meat, just killing because they might bite or be a nuisance or might creep you out{bugs} or just crush under our feet vbecause we cant be bothered. alternatively, people torture things like frogs an bugs out of sadistic cruelty n stuff.

animals and bugs, unlike plants do have higher brains. they are self aware, and have emotions. why is it ok to kill or hurt them? i do not understand. as far as food goes, i myself am not a vegetarian{due to circumstances} but am trying to become one. there is also the fact that many people enjoy hunting and thing of it as SPORT, and at the same time, many meat eaters/hunters etc, will find it very disturbing if sumthing taboo like a dog or cat is killed? rent these double standards?

i do not deny that as biological organisms, we were meant to eat both meat and veggies, but as humans with the ability to think, is it really ok to kill animals just to satisfy our taste buds? or simply because we do not consider them worthy of being on the same level as us? or because we can not be bothered?

what are your views, relegious/personal etc.

I don't kill animals for fun or for "sport".

Though I don't "take offense" to it.

Later in life, I would like to hunt humans. I would love to have a few human "pelts" hanging up on my wall someday. 😈

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
unfair advantages.

If no one species had an advantage over another, there'd be no structure, no Hierarchy and it'd be one free for all and Humans definitely wouldn't be running things and would be no better than any other species.

"Unfair Advantage" is apart of the Circle of Life as well.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
If no one species had an advantage over another, there'd be no structure.

Originally posted by InnerRise
Does not the Ferocious Lion have an unfair advantage over the timid Gazelle?

If no one species had an advantage over another, there'd be no structure, no Hierarchy and it'd be one free for all and Humans definitely wouldn't be running things and would be no better than any other species.

"Unfair Advantage" is apart of the Circle of Life as well.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
unfair advantages.