Classic Molecule Man vs Ultimator and all of 5d Imps

Started by Air Legend26 pages
Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You can go by pre retconn that is fine. But what you are doing is comparing the Molecule man of 84 against the LT of Today. The LT of today was NEVER part of the Retcon. What dont' you get? He was NEVER 2nd only to the pre retconned MM. ONly some other lt was.

You don't get it. If MM and Beyonder were never retconned, LT would not be second to TOAA.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You can go by pre retconn that is fine. But what you are doing is comparing the Molecule man of 84 against the LT of Today. The LT of today was NEVER part of the Retcon. What dont' you get? He was NEVER 2nd only to the pre retconned MM. ONly some other lt was.
Let me ask you this one,

Preretcon Beyonder does he beat current Lt?

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
You don't get it. If MM and Beyonder were never retconned, LT would not be second to TOAA.

But they where. That is what you don't get. The LT was NEVER under them. don't you get that? NEVER. which means you have to use the LT that was NEVER lower them against thier showing where they where higher than the LT. It's so logical. i can't for the life of me see why you can't get it. Others do. Anyway, everyone else thinks the imps win this thread.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Let me ask you this one,

Preretcon Beyonder does he beat current Lt?

No. Preretconned beyonder was everything outside of the marvel multiverse. He was basically what is now the omniverse. Without that one prime multiverse.
the LT sits OVER the Omniverse.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well if there was a story where Thanos was made of jello we have to go by Thanos of that particular story. But there wasnt, but their was a story about the MM where was very very powerful.
And you're trying to use the LT of then, rather than the LT of now. Get it?

MM was always the powerlevel he is now, that's what the retcon means.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Of course, because of the Retcon, he never was, he was always weaker, BECAUSE OF THE RETCON! He was stronger, UNTIL the retcon, that was made by some ass hole who jerked off to big yellow queers with three heads!

Sorry for the language, but its true.

The reason is irrelivant. It doesn't change the fact that its true.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But they where. That is what you don't get. The LT was NEVER under them. don't you get that? NEVER. which means you have to use the LT that was NEVER lower them against thier showing where they where higher than the LT. It's so logical. i can't for the life of me see why you can't get it. Others do. Anyway, everyone else thinks the imps win this thread.

But when we say Classic MM, we acknowledge as if the story happened. That is why these threads exist.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
The reason is irrelivant. It doesn't change the fact that its true.
The retcon reduced MM and Beyonder's respective power levels, made it so that they never had that power, they did nothing to LT.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The retcon reduced MM and Beyonder's respective power levels, made it so that they never had that power, they did nothing to LT.
The retcon isn't restricted to a single character. its an entire continuity that is retroactively altered.

Becore LT didn't sit above the omniverse did he? And now he does? And somehow he wasn't effected by the retcon of making him over the omniverse?

Do you realize how assinine it sounds to say that a person's promotion doesn't effect them?

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The retcon reduced MM and Beyonder's respective power levels, made it so that they never had that power, they did nothing to LT.

He is not smart enough to realize this. You're talking to someone who thinks there are two LT's though, so you should expect such ignorance.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
The retcon isn't restricted to a single character. its an entire continuity that is retroactively altered.

Becore LT didn't sit above the omniverse did he? And now he does? And somehow he wasn't effected by the retcon of making him over the omniverse?

Do you realize how assinine it sounds to say that a person's promotion doesn't effect them?

Not in power, Bill Gates pulls in billions a year, yet any random street thug would still kick his ass.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
He is not smart enough to realize this. You're talking to someone who thinks there are two LT's though, so you should expect such ignorance.
There was really no need for that. He has his opinion, and I respect it.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Not in power, Bill Gates pulls in billions a year, yet any random street thug would still kick his ass.

Not in a forum fight where each would use ALL of thier resources. Bill Gates would murder any street thug due to his vast resources. He'd have 500 heavily armed body guards for this fight. We are talking a forum fight.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not in a forum fight where each would use ALL of thier resources. Bill Gates would murder any street thug due to his vast resources. He'd have 500 heavily armed body guards for this fight. We are talking a forum fight.
So LT would be able to use all the beings in his omniverse to help him?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Not in power, Bill Gates pulls in billions a year, yet any random street thug would still kick his ass.
Is Bill Gates LT? Did I mention power?

Okay let's write this out.

Only MM and Beyonder were retconed.

Before hand they were more powerful than LT

LT<MM&B

Now the retcon effects only them. moving them down.

MM&B<LT

but wait, LT wasn't effected so he still has to be under them

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made MM&B under TOAA!

MM&B<LT

But lt wasn't effected by the retcon, so he's still under them.

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made them under TOAA

MM&B<LT

But the retcon only effected them, So he's still underthem.

LT<MM&B

Get it yet?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Creshosk
And you're trying to use the LT of then, rather than the LT of now. Get it?

MM was always the powerlevel he is now, that's what the retcon means.

The reason is irrelivant. It doesn't change the fact that its true.

Why say classic MM? People have threads like this. So I guess according to you no one can put in these stipulations becuz someone can come in and say retcon and then debate ends.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not in a forum fight where each would use ALL of thier resources. Bill Gates would murder any street thug due to his vast resources. He'd have 500 heavily armed body guards for this fight. We are talking a forum fight.
Bill Gates might have more authority but not more power than say Chuck Lidell in a one on one fight.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
Is Bill Gates LT? Did I mention power?

Okay let's write this out.

Only MM and Beyonder were retconed.

Before hand they were more powerful than LT

LT<MM&B

Now the retcon effects only them. moving them down.

MM&B<LT

but wait, LT wasn't effected so he still has to be under them

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made MM&B under TOAA!

MM&B<LT

But lt wasn't effected by the retcon, so he's still under them.

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made them under TOAA

MM&B<LT

But the retcon only effected them, So he's still underthem.

LT<MM&B

Get it yet?

No, MM and Beyonder's powers were reduced to put them under LT, LT wasn't affected by it.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by Creshosk
The retcon isn't restricted to a single character. its an entire continuity that is retroactively altered.

Becore LT didn't sit above the omniverse did he? And now he does? And somehow he wasn't effected by the retcon of making him over the omniverse?

Do you realize how assinine it sounds to say that a person's promotion doesn't effect them?


Show where it was stated that LT sits above the omniverse.

The LT is judge of the omniverse, however IT still exists within the omniverse. IT is not TOAA. TOAA is above the omniverse.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by Creshosk
Is Bill Gates LT? Did I mention power?

Okay let's write this out.

Only MM and Beyonder were retconed.

Before hand they were more powerful than LT

LT<MM&B

Now the retcon effects only them. moving them down.

MM&B<LT

but wait, LT wasn't effected so he still has to be under them

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made MM&B under TOAA!

MM&B<LT

But lt wasn't effected by the retcon, so he's still under them.

LT<MM&B

But the retcon made them under TOAA

MM&B<LT

But the retcon only effected them, So he's still underthem.

LT<MM&B

Get it yet?

You are missing the key part of the word PRE

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted
Originally posted by Air Legend
You are missing the key part of the word PRE

You are missing the WORD CURRENT. meaning the LT isn't subject to the status of the PRE brothers. Not in this thread. Or any other. Anyway, MM can't beat mxy let alone all of the imps.