Classic Molecule Man vs Ultimator and all of 5d Imps

Started by Air Legend26 pages

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I already concede this topic. 😛

Anyway, like I have been saying, I don't think CMM would win this anyway.


What did you concede?

Originally posted by Air Legend
What did you concede?

That the LT is superior to the pre retconned MM and Beyonder. He also says that The Imps win this fight.

I thot Imps won this fight for awhile.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Is that your favorite line 🤨

You ****ing don't get the meaning of "pre-retcon". The thread established that we are going by before the retcon MM who was shown to be greater than LT (the same LT as today).

It doesn't matter if Classic MM doesn't exist today because we are going by the threads stipulation.

the character was the same before the retcon as he is after the retcon. That's what the retcon means.

A retcon means that it was ALWAYS that way. he was the same power level before the event as he is after the event. A retcon is a reveal of information. Just because we didn't know before that he was not greater than LT, doesn't mean he wasn't.

You can't talk about sickness pre-microbacteria. The Micro bacteria were around even before they were revealed.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I thot Imps won this fight for awhile.

Lt is not greater than MM. What Cresh was saying was that the story never happened. That is for the most part true. However, this thread stipulates the "pre-retcon" character, so we acknowledge as if the story did happen and thus MM is greater. He did not prove LT to be greater, rather, he just kept saying MM was retconned, which is irrelevant to this thread. Come on. I know you aren't that easily decieved.

Keep in mind that there is only one LT. You had it right. Classic MM and Beyonder were depowered and LT remained the same. Thus Cresh said because of that, the LT is greater. What you failed to realize was that what Cresh basically said was that LT is greater than "retcon" MM, not pre-retcon MM.

You should be able to see through his erroneous logic as well because notice how he said "LT sits over the omniverse." Only nvrbeenwthagirl says that (which leads me to believe he came here because he loves to debate with people and go against the odds). The LT is part of the omniverse. On panel it says the LT exists in all multiverses simultaneously. Cresh is here for the sake of arguing, as his facts are mixed up.

These threads acknowledge that the events happened or else they wouldn't exist now would they?

It's interesting we're discussing the LT and MM.

The LT said that Post-retcon Owen Reece is one of the most powerful beings in all creation.

Wonder where that places Molecule Man (Owen's alter-ego)
who happens to be even more powerful.

Just sayin friends.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Lt is not greater than MM. What Cresh was saying was that the story never happened.
Strawman. 🙂

The rest is probably garbage anyway as you obviously didn't understand what I was saying.

Originally posted by Creshosk
the character was the same before the retcon as he is after the retcon. That's what the retcon means.
A retcon means that it was ALWAYS that way. he was the same power level before the event as he is after the event. A retcon is a reveal of information. Just because we didn't know before that he was not greater than LT, doesn't mean he wasn't.

You can't talk about sickness pre-microbacteria. The Micro bacteria were around even before they were revealed.

Ah ha so you don't know what retcon means.

Here's a quick wiki search quote:
"Retroactive continuity or retcon is the deliberate changing of previously established facts in a work of serial fiction. The change itself is referred to as a "retcon", and the act of writing and publishing a retcon is called "retconning"."

They pretty much nailed it.

When MM was retconned, he lost his status, power, etc. The retcon made it as if the story never happened. When we put PRE before retcon, we are referring to before the established facts were changed. Thus, Classic MM is greater than the LT since the LT remained the same.

When a thread stipulates Classic or Pre-retcon, we have to acknowledge as if the events happened or this thread wouldn't exist, that is why "pre" is so crucial. When the word pre-retcon is used, we use the established fact that MM was greater than the LT who has remained the same.

Originally posted by Air Legend
wiki
Fail. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Fail. 🙂

I at least have a source to back up my claims. You on the other hand make up definitions.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I at least have a source to back up my claims. You on the other hand make up definitions.

Hadn't you noticed, you lost this debate. The imps and ultimator have the over whelming majority of given victories.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hadn't you noticed, you lost this debate. The imps and ultimator have the over whelming majority of given victories.

I lost because I proved that Cresh doesn't know the meaning of a retcon. 😆 you crack me up

Originally posted by Air Legend
I at least have a source to back up my claims. You on the other hand make up definitions.
Epic fail. 🙂

Originally posted by Air Legend
I lost because I proved that Cresh doesn't know the meaning of a retcon. 😆 you crack me up
You lost because you used wikipedia. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Epic fail. 🙂

You would know huh, seeing how you epitomize fail 😐

Originally posted by Creshosk
You lost because you used wikipedia. 🙂

You fabricated a definition, worse than using wikipedia 😉

Originally posted by Air Legend
You would know huh, seeing how you epitomize fail 😐
Projecting. doped

Originally posted by Air Legend
You fabricated a definition, worse than using wikipedia 😉

No, using wikipedia is EXACTLY like using a made up definition. This is why you epicly fail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_%28comics%29
during the Acts of Vengeance storyline in Uncanny X-Men. Emma Frost stated that Jubilee had unlimited potential and was one of the most powerful mutants she had ever encountered.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Projecting. doped

No, using wikipedia is EXACTLY like using a made up definition. This is why you epicly fail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_%28comics%29
during the Acts of Vengeance storyline in Uncanny X-Men. Emma Frost stated that Jubilee had unlimited potential and was one of the most powerful mutants she had ever encountered.


Great this confirms once again that you think we both made up the definition of retcon.

So now we'll use logic. 🙂

Pre-retcon means before the retcon happened.
Pre-retcon and post-retcon are two different words with two different meanings. Pre means before. Post means after. Pre-retcon MM is not affected by the retcon because it signifies as if the retcon never happened.

Classic MM in a stomp.doped

Originally posted by Air Legend
Great this confirms once again that you think we both made up the definition of retcon.

So now we'll use logic. 🙂

Pre-retcon means before the retcon happened.
Pre-retcon and post-retcon are two different words with two different meanings. Pre means before. Post means after. Pre-retcon MM is not affected by the retcon because it signifies as if the retcon never happened.

Classic MM in a stomp.doped

mean nothing to the imps. The retcon has nothing to do with them at all. You fail. You realize mxy has on panel the power to retcon anyone he wishes. he can retcon pre retcon any time he wishes. You have lost.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
mean nothing to the imps. The retcon has nothing to do with them at all. You fail. You realize mxy has on panel the power to retcon anyone he wishes. he can retcon pre retcon any time he wishes. You have lost.

This fails again. Do you think Mxy can retcon the Spectre or the Presence? Of course he can't.
Classic MM in a stomp.

And I think I'm going to stop responding to your annoying useless posts 🙂