Originally posted by Violent2DopeMeaning MM&B<LT
No, MM and Beyonder's powers were reduced to put them under LT,
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
LT wasn't affected by it.
So LT<MM&B
We can do this all night if we have to until you understand that for everyaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Originally posted by Creshosk1. Currently in canon.
Meaning MM&B<LTSo LT<MM&B
We can do this all night if we have to until you understand that for everyaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.
2. Yep, the action was Beyonder and MM were weakened in power, the reaction was they were bumped down the power scale, and LT was moved up to #2. He was not affected in his personal power by the retcon, but since the only 2 that>him are no longer what they were in the PR days, he is higher on Marvel's power scale.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Currently in canon.2. Yep, the action was Beyonder and MM were weakened in power, the reaction was they were bumped down the power scale, and LT was moved up to #2. He was not affected in his personal power by the retcon, but since the only 2 that>him are no longer what they were in the PR days, he is higher on Marvel's power scale.
That does not compute. The LT was never moved up. In his history, He was never lower than either.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo LT WAS effected.
LT was moved up to #2.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo he was not effected.
He was not affected in his personal power by the retcon,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo he was effected.
but since the only 2 that>him are no longer what they were in the PR days, he is higher on Marvel's power scale.
Your theory is inconsistant.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
In canon history, no. But that's what a retcon does, it alters history, in this case by weakening MM and Beyonder to make the yellow queer look better.
Um, a retcon doesn't alter history all of the time. Sometimes it just reveals. As is the case that the two where NEVER superior to the LT.
Originally posted by CreshoskThis is not hard to get. LT in SW1-2 is not any weaker or more powerful than he is now, he was affected in an indirect way, his power wasn't affected, MM and Beyonder's power levels were, which made LT stronger than them, not by increasing LT's personal power, but by reducing MM and Beyonder's. Since this is PR MM, he>LT.
So LT WAS effected.So he was not effected.
So he was effected.
Your theory is inconsistant.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
This is not hard to get. LT in SW1-2 is not any weaker or more powerful than he is now, he was affected in an indirect way, his power wasn't affected, MM and Beyonder's power levels were, which made LT stronger than them, not by increasing LT's personal power, but by reducing MM and Beyonder's. Since this is PR MM, he>LT.
wait wait wait. The LT wasn't affected? So let's get this right. Cuz you know, the space that is now the omniverse is what the beyonder was. So if the LT was never affected, then how come he is now over that same space, where as before the beyonder was the ruler of that space?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeDo you understand what a retcon is?
This is not hard to get. LT in SW1-2 is not any weaker or more powerful than he is now, he was affected in an indirect way, his power wasn't affected, MM and Beyonder's power levels were, which made LT stronger than them, not by increasing LT's personal power, but by reducing MM and Beyonder's. Since this is PR MM, he>LT.
Tell me what you think a retcon is. I'll give you a hint, its not ACTUALLY a change...
Originally posted by Violent2DopeNot a retcon is not an actual change, its a reveal of information.
Too bad this is PRMM, and not current. The retcon weakened him.
Like the punchline of a joke, or telling someone that you just played an april fool's joke on, that it was indeed an april fools joke.
If I trick you into thinking something, and then later reveal the truth, the thingI made you think happened didn't actually happen.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeThe beyonder wasn't the ultimate character in power. his feats certainly don't show that.
Yes, it is the technical historical canonical truth that current Beyonder and MM are as they always were, but that is why this is PR MM, who>LT.Beyonder was created to be the ultimate character in terms of power, but a guy who disliked him, retconned him, making him weaker.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yes, it is the technical historical canonical truth that current Beyonder and MM are as they always were, but that is why this is PR MM, who>LT.Beyonder was created to be the ultimate character in terms of power, but a guy who disliked him, retconned him, making him weaker.
Nope, Try again.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeNo, he was never made into something different, he was never changed he was never altered. He always was as he is now.
Okay, he "revealed a truth" that Beyonder never was that powerful, but all in all, what I just said is the same thing.
Current MM+SMvFL = PR MM
Spiderman was shown on panel to be able to beat Firelord.
Originally posted by Creshosk
we already established you have no fu[b]cking clue what a retcon is already. You don't need to keep flaunting your ignorance. [/B]
You ****ing don't get the meaning of "pre-retcon". The thread established that we are going by before the retcon MM who was shown to be greater than LT (the same LT as today).
It doesn't matter if Classic MM doesn't exist today because we are going by the threads stipulation.