Classic Molecule Man vs Ultimator and all of 5d Imps

Originally posted by celestialdemon
No, you are the one who isn't getting it. Before the retcon, the LT was beneath Molecule Man and the Beyonder. That is fact. That's the Molecule Man we are using. The LT's power level hasn't changed since Secret Wars happened unless you can prove he received a power upgrade somewhere.

First of all. What you don't get is that to the LT, He was never below them. That is what you don't get. Also, In secret wars, The LT was over a multiverse. As stated on panel he was part of the multiverse. The LT has been shown now holding and controlling the destiny of two megaverses. He also sits over what is now the omniverse. Something that didn't exist back in teh preretcon days becuz the beyonder was the Omniverse, minus the marvel multiverse. What the beyonder was, The LT now sits in judgement OVER. The LT also absorbed protoge did he not? Doubling his power maybe?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your lack of a response only further backs up that Im correct and you arent. Carry on troll.

Shut the **** up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all. What you don't get is that to the LT, He was never below them. That is what you don't get. Also, In secret wars, The LT was over a multiverse. As stated on panel he was part of the multiverse. The LT has been shown now holding and controlling the destiny of two megaverses. He also sits over what is now the omniverse. Something that didn't exist back in teh preretcon days becuz the beyonder was the Omniverse, minus the marvel multiverse. What the beyonder was, The LT now sits in judgement OVER. The LT also absorbed protoge did he not? Doubling his power maybe?

I get it just fine. We are just going to continue interpreting things differently. You believe that the LT has always been above MM, which taking the retcon into account he has been. You are refusing to acknowledge there is even such a thing as pre-retcon MM. Therefore, we are at an impass and will never agree.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I get it just fine. We are just going to continue interpreting things differently. You believe that the LT has always been above MM, which taking the retcon into account he has been. You are refusing to acknowledge there is even such a thing as pre-retcon MM. Therefore, we are at an impass and will never agree.

NO, I agree, there is a pre retconned MM. I have no problem with that. The Problem I have, is trying to fuse the two. When people try and say the Preretconned MM and even beyonder, are above the LT who's feats are rediculous now adays and who has more authority.You can't have it both ways. You can't sue what they did in teh preretconned days to justify them being superior to the LT of today. Can't have it like that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Shut the **** up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nver you are such a child. Mm still wins this.

Shut the **** up.

It's hilarious how nvr thinks it's ok to use a pre-retcon character and then ignores the word "pre-retcon" and says the events never happened to back up his claims. Basically he's saying LT would beat nothing since PR MM doesn't exist, even though the thread stipulates otherwise.

PRE-RETCON OVERRIDES CURRENT IN THESE THREADS.

Originally posted by Air Legend
It's hilarious how nvr thinks it's ok to use a pre-retcon character and then ignores the word "pre-retcon" and says the events never happened to back up his claims. Basically he's saying LT would beat nothing since PR MM doesn't exist, even though the thread stipulates otherwise.

PRE-RETCON OVERRIDES CURRENT IN THESE THREADS.

You are so slow and unintelligent that that is really what you think i'm saying. Your reasoning skills are of such a low lvl that you are missing the entire point of my argument. As stipulated, Pre retcon cannot over ride current becuz thier are no current versions of the pre retconned characters.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are so slow and unintelligent that that is really what you think i'm saying. Your reasoning skills are of such a low lvl that you are missing the entire point of my argument. As stipulated, Pre retcon cannot over ride current becuz thier are no current versions of the pre retconned characters.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are so slow and unintelligent that that is really what you think i'm saying. Your reasoning skills are of such a low lvl that you are missing the entire point of my argument. As stipulated, Pre retcon cannot over ride current becuz thier are no current versions of the pre retconned characters.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Actually when a thread stipulates it, pre-retcon does override current and that's a fact you'll have to accept.

the threat stipulates the status of pre retconned. But that doesn't affect the current LT's status against everyone else. I.E. DC characters. Thus pitting a pre retconned marvel character against a current dc character and then trying to use the Current LT's feats as a measuring stick to provide and outcome for the battle is RETARDED.

You say LT>IMPS

Then you say pre retconned >LT

Which is RETARDED becuz it's the pre retconned LT that is lessor than the MM.

So trying to say the Pre retconned characters beat everyone else that the LT could is ReTARDED given the fact that the retcon doesn't affect any DC characters in relation to the CURRENT LT.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Actually when a thread stipulates it, pre-retcon does override current and that's a fact you'll have to accept.

Not only due to the fact that no one has proven that the Lt of today is more powerful than the Lt of that year.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly.

Not only due to the fact that no one has proven that the Lt of today is more powerful than the Lt of that year.

🙂

I have. The LT of today is over an omniverse. yesteryear, he was just part of the multiverse. as stated on panel. The beyonder of yester year was the omniverse minus the marvel multiverse. Today, the Lt sits over the omniverse that once was the beyonder. AND the LT absobred protoge. Effectively doubling his power.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
No, you are the one who isn't getting it. Before the retcon, the LT was beneath Molecule Man and the Beyonder. That is fact. That's the Molecule Man we are using. The LT's power level hasn't changed since Secret Wars happened unless you can prove he received a power upgrade somewhere.

🙂

Spiderman's much greater than Galactus based off of one time showings. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
ACtually the retcon merely revelas that he was never below him, so the story was just PIS for LT and SMvFL for Molecules man. Unless you have more than the one feat to backup the claim. Or can I say that Spiderman > Hulk > Thor > Ego = Galactus?

🙂

Spiderman's much greater than Galactus based off of one time showings. 🙂

This post made me laugh.

This is the equivalent post of Johnnie Cochran's "If it doesn't fit you must acquit." defense argument. Slinging it hoping to dupe those on the jury.

Props Creshok for a truly entertaining post.

Originally posted by Cubicks
This post made me laugh.

This is the equivalent post of Johnnie Cochran's "If it doesn't fit you must acquit." defense argument. Slinging it hoping to dupe those on the jury.

Props Creshok for a truly entertaining post.

Originally posted by Cubicks
This post made me laugh.

This is the equivalent post of Johnnie Cochran's "If it doesn't fit you must acquit." defense argument. Slinging it hoping to dupe those on the jury.

Props Creshok for a truly entertaining post.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Co-signed.
He probably doesn't even know what Secret Wars II is.

Only the absurd and slow witted would attack someone in this manner, especially after showing that they themselves can't grasp the actual concept of retcon, and thus sling insults thus.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Only the absurd and slow witted would attack someone in this manner, especially after showing that they themselves can't grasp the actual concept of retcon, and thus sling insults thus.

This coming from someone who throws insults at the drop of a hat at those who disagree with him.

And don't give me your excuses, your posts tell the story.

Originally posted by Cubicks
This coming from someone who throws insults at the drop of a hat at those who disagree with him.

And don't give me your excuses, your posts tell the story.

Um no. I don't drop insults at the drop of a hat. Fail. Most of the time I insult trolls, who bait, and people who have insulted me, or condescending people who think that thier opinion is the only true correct one. And talk abunch of shit becuz they think they know all things marvel. And the insult wasn't directed towards you. so back the **** up. It was towards someone else, who has a long history of insulting me when I dont' insult them. Now pull your foot out of your mouth.