Thanos versus Darkseid in Pure Slugfest Battle

Originally posted by Rorschach
I wasn’t referring to JLA/Avengers.

I was referring to feats that Thor has accomplished, like towing the Midgar Serpent.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And supes has done stuff like that and arguably better,and in jla/avengers it was shown supes is the physical superior.

Yes, Superman does have similar feats, which is why said they’re pretty much equal.

I didn’t think the JLA/Avengers properly portrayed how a fight between Thor and Superman would go. In that same fight Superman said Thor was the most powerful opponent he had faced, which we know isn’t true.

"He ..may be .. single toughest oponnent ... I've ever"

He may be , not that he is .

And I don't exactly take that as granted .

But as somebody already said, Superman has gotten a lot stronger since then .

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' even know if there was a concept of Firestorm matrix in the pre crisis days.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But since the NEW FS seems more powerful than even the old, and got pwned with a reach,

FS was far from 'pwned' imo, [as he got right back up, just after that happened]. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd say that the matrix is different somehow.

Originally posted by Galan007
There was... It just didn't play as big of a role in the story, as it does now.

The most impressive thing about the 'Darkseid incident' was Darky's ability to pull the Professor out of the Matrix...

FS was far from 'pwned' imo, [as he got right back up, just after that happened]. 🙂

The only 'difference' is that the FS-Matrix is seen more often nowadays, and plays a bigger role in Firestorm's life.

I'd like to point out that the atomic thingy that the old firestorm did is the same thing the element people did to make inertron if my memory serves me. There is nothing that can destroy it correct?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is nothing that can destroy it correct?

Originally posted by Rorschach
I wasn’t referring to JLA/Avengers.

I was referring to feats that Thor has accomplished, like towing the Midgar Serpent.

that isnt really a good feat becausewhat can we say about it?

The snake "looked" heavy?

There is nothing to compare it to really

Originally posted by Galan007
Destroy what?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
that isnt really a good feat becausewhat can we say about it?

The snake "looked" heavy?

There is nothing to compare it to really

The Snake doesn't look nearly as hard to pull as turning the wheels of maggeddon if you ask me. Or holding a black hole in your hand. A black hole could easily destroy the planet. The force of it's pull would be far more than some sname around the planet causing a few geological tremors here and there.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's the same manner that the elementals in LOS created the indestructible substance right?

Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty much.

That is what I was trying to say. Nothing can destroy inertron. So Firestorm creating that construct, I think was the very first instance of what would later be known as inertron. Hell he used the same method to trap Thor EASILY in JLA avengers.

Jormungandr was large enough that it would encircle the Earth, according to Norse legends, which Marvel based its version on. That is plenty enough to make a good extrapolation.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Jormungandr was large enough that it would encircle the Earth, according to Norse legends, which Marvel based its version on. That is plenty enough to make a good extrapolation.

doesn't tell us how much force the snake was using. How much it weighted. We'd have to do a lot of calculating to come up with a wieght. But I can almost bet superman has moved more weight than that. Just look at the earth towing incident for reference.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is what I was trying to say. Nothing can destroy inertron. So Firestorm creating that construct, I think was the very first instance of what would later be known as inertron. Hell he used the same method to trap Thor EASILY in JLA avengers.

Thus,

We can't label his constructs as inertron in those instances.

Originally posted by Galan007
The thing about the feats you just listed, is there was no use of the word inertron.

Thus,

We can't label his constructs as inertron in those instances.

But it is the exact same manner in which the substance inertron is created by jan's people. A rose by any other name is still a rose. It takes high tier matter manip to make it. and then you have to know how to make it. So it is just funny that people say a good Gl or surfer could make it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
doesn't tell us how much force the snake was using. How much it weighted. We'd have to do a lot of calculating to come up with a wieght. But I can almost bet superman has moved more weight than that. Just look at the earth towing incident for reference.

Enough to make it a strength feat in the high end of strength feats pretty easily.

I'm not saying Thor > SM, just refuting the claim that Thor lacks strength feats.

Thanos wins this.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So it is just funny that people say a good Gl or surfer could make it.

Fact is, Firestorm is the only person I know of, to have manipulated the Omega Force to any degree -- So naturally, saying another character could have replicated that feat, is nothing but speculation.

One of the closest things I know of...

Ion II once made an over-exaggerated construct, [that performed the exact same basic function as Firestorm's construct], to redirect Grayven's blast:

But even that feat was nowhere near what FS did.

Originally posted by Galan007
This was just their opinion.

Fact is, Firestorm is the only person I know of, to have manipulated the Omega Force to any degree -- So naturally, saying another character could have replicated that feat, is nothing but speculation.

One of the closest things I know of...

Ion II once made an over-exaggerated construct, [that performed the exact same basic function as Firestorm's construct], to redirect Grayven's blast:

But even that feat was nowhere near what FS did.

Not in the least. becuz grayven has a limited Omega blast. And the OF is said to be one of Darky's stronest powers. Superman warned that anyone who got hit by it would instantly Die.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not in the least. becuz grayven has a limited Omega blast.

That was just the closest thing I could think of. lol

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the OF is said to be one of Darky's stronest powers. Superman warned that anyone who got hit by it would instantly Die.