And it wasn’t proven either. I could just as easily say he was simply feeling unconfident or something. It’s not suitable evidence if it can’t be proven one way or the other.
lol. ENMA was unconfident? please. sarutobi was unconfident enma clearly was not. he was infact egging sarutobi on and quite hostile against urochimaru. and you have ur analysis wrong. statements like "urochimaru is stronger than diedara" have not also been proven one way or the other. but since the STATEMENT WAS MADE, and it WASNT DISPROVEN, in the manga therefore it is taken as proof.
Doesn’t matter. Naruto is just as capable of having characters who can underestimate their own abilities as any other series.Just look at Enma. 🙂
ahan, and but that statement wasnt disproven, which means he wasnt proven to be underestimating. and enma is a character who is hostile, confident and definately not EMO. he was never shown to be underestimating his self. and you commit a fallacy by using circular argumentation by first saying that enma was understimating himself, and characters can underestimate themselves in naruto because enma underestimates himself{unproven assumption}.
Except there were no actions that reinforced any so-called “beliefs.” They calsh for a bit, the blade is easily knocked out of Orochimaru’s hands, and Enma is no worse for the wear.In fact, he was much more affect by Orochiamru’s snakes than the blade. There’s absolutely no evidence to back up Enma’s equivalent of saying “This is going to hurt.”
there are no ACTIONS, but there is the style of the anime where characters do not cry out on minor bruises. and ur showing ur weak position by bringing back old and answeered statements. the blade was knocked out because uro wasnt paying attention.
So writing a character who can underestimate his own abilities is all of a sudden the characteristics of a stupid writer?
writing a character who says a significant thing reguarding uro's power and then{according to you} is disproven in the same fight is stupid. it doesnt help either that the said character is probably one of the most non emo, non cautious, and positively furious characters there is who doesnt once show self underestimation in the fight.
Cause, right now, I have a hard time picturing you doing any thing other than hug your Naruto plushie while you type.
oooo, nice comeback. 😆 . come back and debate when u have a reply 🙄
Big achievement? You mean besides single-handedly taking out two Hokages at once and then proceeding to best a Sannin ain combat and almost killing said Sannin?Not much other than that.
lol. the other hokages were kicking his ass, as was uro. there is a reason he HAD to use shiki fuujin, that was because he CUDNT beat the opposition without killing himself. hmmm, seems like your entire argument collapses seeing as he used a suicidal jutsu.
They were both trying to prove their superior strength and supposedly trying to kill each other and you call that holding back? Please.Sasuke’s skirmish with Rock Lee wasn’t as serious as that, and Lee clearly showed his superior speed in their fight. Sasuke could have easily done the same.
true. but as always, writers do not show off the character's best moves until the final fight. they were both on the EDGE of murderous territory. but neither meant to kill each other, this can be seen by the fact that both naruto and sasuke try to hold back once they have activated their chidori and raasengan but can not, and thats when kakashi steps in. also, compare their fight at the valley of the end vs the roof, NO comparison, it was one of their weakest instances.
as for the second part, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! i gave you direct evidence which refuted ur premise to ridicule sasuke based on the fact that he was being bested by naruto. i clearly stated how u were missing the fact that naruto was doing that when he had kyuubi chakra and the air friction around him was burning entire logs to cinders in tenths of a second before they touched him etc etc. and u forgot all about that ad posted sumthing pointless. seems to be a habit, selecting the things u wanna reply to and forgetting the rest and replying with sumthing completely pointless to make it look like the query as been answered.
Don’t give me that crap. Gaara’s sand shield protects him at all, regardless of the attack. It shielded him perfectly from an explosion at point-blank range when he was about five years old. And he hadn’t gone through any specific power-ups or training to go from barely blocking a few bone fragments to shielding a city wide nuke.
untrue, he also has concious control over it, he just can ot stop it from protecting him just before his skin. he LET those haasendan fall in after letting them rotate. this is further proven by the fact that the next ones did not get IN. also. your selectively replying again and cementing it with your usual blend of rudeness. why have u not taken into account that it is POST SHIPPUDEN after timeskip and the fact that gaara is kazekage and the fact that the construct which protected the village was NOT protecting him against the c-3. and how can u say he hasnr trained, when infact every shinobi trains, and he was stronger post time skip and he was kazekage, and three years had passed. EVERY one in naruto got much stronger post timeskip.
But every one else who has written a comic book or manga is, right?
pointless argument. they have nnothing to do with naruto, and all manga are different. you are not replying to the argument posted.
Holy shit. 😂I didn’t think you were that simple, but I guess I underestimated you. You seriously think Sasuke just randomly sprouted those snakes on his back at the same moment he appears that high in the air.
Yeah, Sasuke just happened to randomly grow those snakes on his back while he went up to Deidara because he liked the look, even though it wasn’t stated he body-flickered up there and no one’s ever shown the capability to jump that high. 😐
Except that Sasuke is shown to be flying right to where Deidara is.
Riddle me this: if Sasuke could have simply jumped up there, why bother transforming and producing his wing and a pile of snakes in place of his missing wing in the first place?
It didn’t have to be stated. It was shown.
Cripes, man, if a character was shown holding up three fingers, would you deny it until it was stated on panel that he was holding up three fingers?
1. 😆 , come back when u actually have a counterargument
2. those snakes looked nothing liked wings. they appeared before he went up there and were specifically used for grappling, his instant movement and flickers mean body flicker{never really stated in naruto. ud know if u read the manga. characters used body flciker but it is never stated on panel. it is understood} . as for the jump, dealt with.
3. you are lying sasuke is NEVER shown to be flying there. again, i challenge you to produce on panel evidence.
4. he transformed to gain a strength/speed/durability advantage. his wings give him the ability to move faster than he can run and they can easily help him move LATERALLY in the air without any other force mid air. however, the most significant thing is that the wings act like shields which was very useful against the explosion, lol, that is why he LOST his wing in the first place that u like to quote so much.
5. conjecture, no history and contrary evidence.
6.only he produced snakes to grapple which looked nothing like wings nor was he said tp be flying as he was before on panel. on top of it he used body flicker as seen from the speed. on top of that, he wudnt have HAD to grapple if the snakes acted like wings, as he wudv just flownb sideways.
Naruto isn’t an exception. The anime can make the ninjas look as uber and fast as it wants, it still doesn’t negate the fact you can’t even once show Naruto moving in mid-air using chakra.
lol, again u intentionally dont reply to the point made. it first proven in the MANGA, then in the anime. what you say is simply a lie.
You just gave me an explanation of how you don’t except any thing if it isn’t shown or stated on panel.Orochimaru, the guy who tried to stab Naruto, said so himself that it didn’t pierce him. We see on panel that it didn’t pierce him.
So, what was the point of Orochimaru's statement? Is Kishimoto being a stupid writer for making him lie for no apparent reason? 😐
first he was stabbed{otherwise he wundt be pushed back dumass} and slammed into the ground but not impaled{the chakra resisted it from otherwise impaling}, then uro makes the statement seeing the fact that he wasnt impaled. and right in the next scan{chronologically simultaneous} the chakra on naruto's hand pushes the blade back meaning the uro was also saying that referring to his chakra's resistance.
Even though you obviously can’t prove me wrong, you can’t prove he was moving at lightspeed, and you can’t prove that he was even moving at the “speed of reflection” (whatever the hell that is).Gotta love that kind of logic.
