Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Newjak
In the crossover that the OE burned SS didn't SS just finish handing Orion his backside so much DS was forced to step in and wasn't it showing him as a giant floating head at the time to basically say this is was the true Darksied 😖hifty:

The story was all wrong. Orion and DS should have been giants over SS and Galactus. In thier true form, Planets are like marbles to them. Irgo, Bullshit.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The story was all wrong. Orion and DS should have been giants over SS and Galactus. In thier true form, Planets are like marbles to them. Irgo, Bullshit.

Originally posted by Newjak
In the crossover that the OE burned SS didn't SS just finish handing Orion his backside so much DS was forced to step in and wasn't it showing him as a giant floating head at the time to basically say this is was the true Darksied 😖hifty:

Nope.

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Originally posted by batdude123
Nope.

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Originally posted by Newjak
I mean while Orion and SS were fighting. I remember seeing them battling then the two giant heads of Galactus and DS being over them.

I thought you meant Darkseid was a floating head while blasting Silver Surfer. 😂

That was non cannon anyway

Originally posted by batdude123
I thought you meant Darkseid was a floating head while blasting Silver Surfer. 😂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I said for months it was the Omega Beams and Every one laughed at me. I guess I was right once again.

I don't see why they would. Darkseid clearly stated that he was about to blast Supes with the Omega Beams. 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
You known me enough to understand what I was getting at your just being rude mhm

vin

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't see why they would. Darkseid [B]clearly stated that he was about to blast Supes with the Omega Beams. 😬 [/B]

I stated this several times and then I explained the OE has the finder beams. They called me nvr had a clue. I knew I knew what I was talking about.

Originally posted by batdude123
vin

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't see why they would. Darkseid [B]clearly stated that he was about to blast Supes with the Omega Beams. 😬 [/B]

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh and Thor would absorb the OB and throw them back at DS I mean if Superman deflect them with his HV Thor would have no problems 😖hifty:

What part of OE is diff from OB don't you get? Thor would get so pwned with the OE it isn't even funny.

Originally posted by Newjak
By the wya is there not a panel where Superman blinds DS and DS begs for mercy saying he can no longer resort to his Omega Effect for victory?

I would call that jobbing. Since DS could use matter, reality manip, energy blast, or his superior TP.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What part of OE is diff from OB don't you get? Thor would get so pwned with the OE it isn't even funny.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why do you think I use the letters O>B> and not O>E> hmmm 😛

DS won't use the OB on THor. He knows he can't use the OE on Superman becuz the source protects him. Thor has no such comfort.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS won't use the OB on THor. He knows he can't use the OE on Superman becuz the source protects him. Thor has no such comfort.

Originally posted by Newjak
You know if we're going to be talking about comic style protection like the source then you know any writer would give Thor some protection from them 😛

Odin was barely noticed by the LT when he died. the source, which is above the LT, protects superman. Thor is NO Odin. He wouldn't get a 2nd glance by the LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Odin was barely noticed by the LT when he died. the source, which is above the LT, protects superman. Thor is NO Odin. He wouldn't get a 2nd glance by the LT.

I'm just saying if we're going t be using comic book style protection like the source then you know a writer would give Thor some kind of protection as well.

Originally posted by batdude123
Don't take what I said out of context, Uni. I never said he was above top tier. However, recently he's been portrayed as the absolute #1 guy in that category, and you can't ignore that no matter how much you hate it. 🙂

Not a monopoly on high feats? Correct, however saying this only makes you look like a hater. Saying that Superman is like any other top tier character with high feats is a bullshit lie. What do you think makes him Superman in the first place? He has the highest of the high feats when it comes to his level. Deal with it. Everybody else around him gets utterly trashed by Darkseid.

Rock of Ages. Wonder Woman. Darkseid.

She charges at him completely out of her mind... bloodlusted... wanting to kill him. And what happened? He pimp slapped her like a hoe and she flew across the room. He looked like he just swatted a fly.

And regardless of whether you like it or not, Darky's history was not effected by COIE. So all of his feats, Pre and Post-Crisis are fair game.

It doesn't extend to Marvel? What happened to Silver Surfer when he went up against Darkseid in that one crossover? He was friggin' BONED by the Omega Beams.

Oh, and btw, I just checked the book and Diana did NOT deflect the Omega Effect, but instead the Omega beams. There's a difference. Omega Effect>>>>>>>>>Omega Beams.

If that's what you recall... then you recall incorrectly. Masterson Thor beat Thanos in their match.

Darkseid shrugged off his Omega Beams a few panels later, and didn't seem to be fazed by it.

Wait... are we talking about the same Omega Effect that has pwned the likes of Dr. Fate, Mordru, skyfathers galore, Pre Crisis Daxamites, the Anti-Monitor, Metron, the Lords of Chaos and Order, ect? Not to mention the Spectre struggled with it a little bit too. I'm sorry to say this Uni, but ONE showing from Apokalips Now doesn't change how powerful the Omega Effect is.

And if you think Thor can absorb it and rechannel it when so many others a lot more powerful than Thor have failed, well then hysterical2

In the post you quoted from me, i already admitted that Superman is first among peers in DC.

And lol if you don't think Darkseid's been depowered, unofficially or not. He's simply not the beast he once was, and the way he's written currently is a testament to that.

And his feats from the PC era do count......but when Zero Hour occurred, and it fiddled with the timeline of Legion, who's to say the GDS is even still canon?
And thats where the Mordru beating, Daxamite controlling, pantheon absorbing, Lords of Chaos chumping comes from.

And even PC, Firestorm looped it right back into his face. Though it was retconned later.

All i'm saying is, it's not infallible.

The hammers haven't found a source of energy they couldn't absorb yet, to my knowledge.

And even if Masterson did beat Thanos, it took a powerup from his skyfather father to do so.
I'd rather a superman with an explicit powerup beat Darkseid, than one who merely stops "holding back".

And Thor or BRB don't have to overpower the OE to save their skins.

They merely have to reflect it, something which has been done enough times to make it a viable tactic.

And wow at debating the technicals of the OE.

And great job at proving how superior Darky is to Surfer, when in the crossover he cheapshotted him from behind.

Telling, that is.

Thor/BRB imo can take likely 1-2/10 from Darkseid. That doesn't lessen him imo, since he still takes the vast majority.