Originally posted by Board Walker
The AstroForce which fuels Orion's very existence is what deflected the OE, the AstroForce is the very power of the Source.The OE has never been deflected accept by the Source itself.
Or HV.
Or the Aegis Bracelets.
Or the Astroforce, which is a gift from the source.
The opposite of the OE are the alpha bullets, which Izaya wields, prepacifism.
Superman deflected the OE in Apok Now.
WW deflected the OE in apok now.
BRB and Thor, would likely be able to deflect the OE as well.
Once they reconnect to the eyeknobs from whence they came, fights over.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Or HV.Or the Aegis Bracelets.
Or the Astroforce, which is a gift from the source.
The opposite of the OE are the alpha bullets, which Izaya wields, prepacifism.
Superman deflected the OE in Apok Now.
WW deflected the OE in apok now.
BRB and Thor, would likely be able to deflect the OE as well.
Once they reconnect to the eyeknobs from whence they came, fights over.
The AstroForce is not the opposite of the OE, it is the successor of it; it is greater then the OE and will replace it in the grand scheme of things.
WW did not deflect the OE with the Aegis bracelets, the Source did so.
Superman is directly protected by the Source, and cannot be erased from existence as he is necessary for anything and everything to exist, akin to DS being needed for existence of all as well.
Where was all of this stated? Several times on panel, the issues have been posted multiple times.
Originally posted by Board Walker
The AstroForce is not the opposite of the OE, it is the successor of it; it is greater then the OE and will replace it in the grand scheme of things.WW did not deflect the OE with the Aegis bracelets, the Source did so.
Superman is directly protected by the Source, and cannot be erased from existence as he is necessary for anything and everything to exist, akin to DS being needed for existence of all as well.
Where was all of this stated? Several times on panel, the issues have been posted multiple times.
Wonder Woman actually was able to deflect the OE due to a retconn saying she placed part of her soul in DS. Jeph loeb apologized for that horrible mishandling of the OE. There always should be finder beams and no one ever escapes them.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Multiple scans have been posted, but none that ever conclusively linked Superman using hv to deflect the OE to the Source in anyway.Same for the Aegis Bracelets reflecting the OE.
You're lying.
Actually you are the one who is lying. It's so apparent that you do not like DS or DC much. YOu are a thor nut sack holder. Most of your arguments suck becuz you don't know enough about the characters you don't like. You don't know PIS or CIS if it slaps you in the face. SUperman/Batman is a rediculous book that can't even stay in continuity right. It ****s up all precident and is written by Superman Cock jugglers.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wonder Woman actually was able to deflect the OE due to a retconn saying she placed part of her soul in DS. Jeph loeb apologized for that horrible mishandling of the OE. There always be finder beams and no one ever escapes them.
Lies.
Wonder Woman placed a piece of her soul in Darkseid in OWAW, way before S/B ever took place.
Show me the scan where it says on panel, that her soul allowed her to reflect the OE, and i'll concede the point.
Until then, the Aegis reflected the OE.
And i don't read DC?!
GTFOH!
I don't read DC with your rose colored glasses, true. But i read DC.
And i'm a Thorbag nutholder?
I personally think Thor is one of the most boring characters to ever grace a comic, only beaten by WonderWoman and Firestorm and Hulk at times.
But i don't disregard the feats of Thor merely because i find him boring at times.
Put up the scans where it says WWs soul allowed her to reflect the OE or shutup.
Put up the scans where it says Superman being protected by the Source allowed his hv to deflect the OE.
Goodluck putting up scans that don't exist.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Lies.Wonder Woman placed a piece of her soul in Darkseid in OWAW, way before S/B ever took place.
Show me the scan where it says on panel, that her soul allowed her to reflect the OE, and i'll concede the point.
Until then, the Aegis reflected the OE.
And i don't read DC?!
GTFOH!I don't read DC with your rose colored glasses, true. But i read DC.
And i'm a Thorbag nutholder?
I personally think Thor is one of the most boring characters to ever grace a comic, only beaten by WonderWoman and Firestorm and Hulk at times.
But i don't disregard the feats of Thor merely because i find him boring at times.Put up the scans where it says WWs soul allowed her to reflect the OE or shutup.
Put up the scans where it says Superman being protected by the Source allowed his hv to deflect the OE.
Goodluck putting up scans that don't exist.
First of all, Superman/Batman is the most horrible book. It might as well not be in continuity. It ignores all the rules. No one takes tha tbook seriously. So for you to even try to use it, is silly. The Superman Batman book never even had the Finder Beams. Which means that it was NOT the omega effect. No matter what is written on panel. Without the finder beams, there is no omega effect. ONly an energy blast coming from Darksied's eyes. Thanos can do that. I do not post scans. You know I don't. I like to wait. someone will come along and post a scan and you will look like a tard. So many others have fallen victim to my slow poison. Of course you realize im almost never wrong when it comes to DC facts. Now run along. Thor and BRB will NEVER be able to deflect the OE becuz the OE will be preceded by Finder Beams, wich are immaterial and cannot be deflected.
Originally posted by UniOmni
So if every writer for the next ten years uses Darkseid and wipes out legions of heroes, Superman included, but he always says Omega Effect, but never make mention of the finder beams, it doesn't count?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, Superman/Batman is the most horrible book. It might as well not be in continuity. It ignores all the rules. No one takes tha tbook seriously. So for you to even try to use it, is silly. The Superman Batman book never even had the Finder Beams. Which means that it was NOT the omega effect. No matter what is written on panel. Without the finder beams, there is no omega effect. ONly an energy blast coming from Darksied's eyes. Thanos can do that. I do not post scans. You know I don't. I like to wait. someone will come along and post a scan and you will look like a tard. So many others have fallen victim to my slow poison. Of course you realize im almost never wrong when it comes to DC facts. Now run along. Thor and BRB will NEVER be able to deflect the OE becuz the OE will be preceded by Finder Beams, wich are immaterial and cannot be deflected.
1) Superman/Batman is continuity. Supergirl alone is proof of this. Though it does seem to take more freedoms than the normal books of each character.
2) I've never seen it stated that her sharing her soul with Darkseid when he reginited the Firepits in OWAW, was the reason she was able to deflect the beams.
3) The Source has a PLAN for Superman, that has been specifically said a few times. It MAY be the reason Superman has been able to deflect the beams, but they weren't directly related on panel.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Batdude.Superman is first among his peers.
He's not above the top tier.
Too many showings where he's matched or beaten by another top tier contradict that stance.
And every top tier has showings where he outperforms his peers by various degrees. That isn't something that Superman has a monoply on.
He has more of these showings than anyone else in DC, but that doesn't extend to Marvel.
And i'd wager a hammer blow or toss from Thor would hurt Darkseid.
And iirc, the only time Thor ever looked better than Thanos, was when he was specifically powered up, with either the PG, or the Enchanted Armor and equipment, given by his father Odin.
Lets see what it takes to hurt Darkseid, ehh?
Him being hit with his own ultimate attack? Check.
Thus weakened, he gets pulped. Mate.Thor or BRB, can easily redirect the OE and return it to his eyeknobs, and from there it's written in stone.
It'd be flatout denial to say they couldn't do so, when the hammers have done it many any time the wielders made the attempt, and the OE has been reflected a few a times despite what Darkseid wanted to happen.
Don't take what I said out of context, Uni. I never said he was above top tier. However, recently he's been portrayed as the absolute #1 guy in that category, and you can't ignore that no matter how much you hate it. 🙂
Not a monopoly on high feats? Correct, however saying this only makes you look like a hater. Saying that Superman is like any other top tier character with high feats is a bullshit lie. What do you think makes him Superman in the first place? He has the highest of the high feats when it comes to his level. Deal with it. Everybody else around him gets utterly trashed by Darkseid.
Rock of Ages. Wonder Woman. Darkseid.
She charges at him completely out of her mind... bloodlusted... wanting to kill him. And what happened? He pimp slapped her like a hoe and she flew across the room. He looked like he just swatted a fly.
And regardless of whether you like it or not, Darky's history was not effected by COIE. So all of his feats, Pre and Post-Crisis are fair game.
It doesn't extend to Marvel? What happened to Silver Surfer when he went up against Darkseid in that one crossover? He was friggin' BONED by the Omega Beams.
Oh, and btw, I just checked the book and Diana did NOT deflect the Omega Effect, but instead the Omega beams. There's a difference. Omega Effect>>>>>>>>>Omega Beams.
If that's what you recall... then you recall incorrectly. Masterson Thor beat Thanos in their match.
Darkseid shrugged off his Omega Beams a few panels later, and didn't seem to be fazed by it.
Wait... are we talking about the same Omega Effect that has pwned the likes of Dr. Fate, Mordru, skyfathers galore, Pre Crisis Daxamites, the Anti-Monitor, Metron, the Lords of Chaos and Order, ect? Not to mention the Spectre struggled with it a little bit too. I'm sorry to say this Uni, but ONE showing from Apokalips Now doesn't change how powerful the Omega Effect is.
And if you think Thor can absorb it and rechannel it when so many others a lot more powerful than Thor have failed, well then hysterical2
Originally posted by batdude123
Don't take what I said out of context, Uni. I never said he was above top tier. However, recently he's been portrayed as the absolute #1 guy in that category, and you can't ignore that no matter how much you hate it. 🙂Not a monopoly on high feats? Correct, however saying this only makes you look like a hater. Saying that Superman is like any other top tier character with high feats is a bullshit lie. What do you think makes him Superman in the first place? He has the highest of the high feats when it comes to his level. Deal with it. Everybody else around him gets utterly trashed by Darkseid.
Rock of Ages. Wonder Woman. Darkseid.
She charges at him completely out of her mind... bloodlusted... wanting to kill him. And what happened? He pimp slapped her like a hoe and she flew across the room. He looked like he just swatted a fly.
And regardless of whether you like it or not, Darky's history was not effected by COIE. So all of his feats, Pre and Post-Crisis are fair game.
It doesn't extend to Marvel? What happened to Silver Surfer when he went up against Darkseid in that one crossover? He was friggin' BONED by the Omega Beams.
Oh, and btw, I just checked the book and Diana did NOT deflect the Omega Effect, but instead the Omega beams. There's a difference. Omega Effect>>>>>>>>>Omega Beams.
If that's what you recall... then you recall incorrectly. Masterson Thor beat Thanos in their match.
Darkseid shrugged off his Omega Beams a few panels later, and didn't seem to be fazed by it.
Wait... are we talking about the same Omega Effect that has pwned the likes of Dr. Fate, Mordru, skyfathers galore, Pre Crisis Daxamites, the Anti-Monitor, Metron, the Lords of Chaos and Order, ect? I'm sorry to say this Uni, but ONE showing from Apokalips Now doesn't change how powerful the Omega Effect is.
And if you think Thor can absorb it and rechannel it, well then hysterical2
I said for months it was the Omega Beams and Every one laughed at me. I guess I was right once again.
Originally posted by batdude123In the crossover that the OE burned SS didn't SS just finish handing Orion his backside so much DS was forced to step in and wasn't it showing him as a giant floating head at the time to basically say this is was the true Darksied 😖hifty:
Don't take what I said out of context, Uni. I never said he was above top tier. However, recently he's been portrayed as the absolute #1 guy in that category, and you can't ignore that no matter how much you hate it. 🙂Not a monopoly on high feats? Correct, however saying this only makes you look like a hater. Saying that Superman is like any other top tier character with high feats is a bullshit lie. What do you think makes him Superman in the first place? He has the highest of the high feats when it comes to his level. Deal with it. Everybody else around him gets utterly trashed by Darkseid.
Rock of Ages. Wonder Woman. Darkseid.
She charges at him completely out of her mind... bloodlusted... wanting to kill him. And what happened? He pimp slapped her like a hoe and she flew across the room. He looked like he just swatted a fly.
And regardless of whether you like it or not, Darky's history was not effected by COIE. So all of his feats, Pre and Post-Crisis are fair game.
It doesn't extend to Marvel? What happened to Silver Surfer when he went up against Darkseid in that one crossover? He was friggin' BONED by the Omega Beams.
Oh, and btw, I just checked the book and Diana did NOT deflect the Omega Effect, but instead the Omega beams. There's a difference. Omega Effect>>>>>>>>>Omega Beams.
If that's what you recall... then you recall incorrectly. Masterson Thor beat Thanos in their match.
Darkseid shrugged off his Omega Beams a few panels later, and didn't seem to be fazed by it.
Wait... are we talking about the same Omega Effect that has pwned the likes of Dr. Fate, Mordru, skyfathers galore, Pre Crisis Daxamites, the Anti-Monitor, Metron, the Lords of Chaos and Order, ect? I'm sorry to say this Uni, but ONE showing from Apokalips Now doesn't change how powerful the Omega Effect is.
And if you think Thor can absorb it and rechannel it, well then hysterical2