Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by darthgoober
As impressive as PC Supes was, he was also notoriously vulnerable to K-nite and red sun radiation(unlike current Supes who's built up a resistance to both), which is why Surfer is able to pull some wins against him IMO. Hell, Surfer could actually create gold k-nite for an easy win.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Pc supes with a little burst of speed travels trillions of miles in seconds,he would destroy surfer and his horrible combat speed with one punch before surfer even thinks about using his cosmic awareness to find out supes weakness let alone actually getting the chance to use it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer has plenty of insane "mulitiple lightyears in seconds" as well, so what uber COMBAT feats does PC Supes have?

ive never seen surfer top 10x light speed

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Supes has traveled so fast he went to heavens gates almost

ive never seen surfer top 10x light speed

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
That is exactly how. You not being serous.

I'm just not acting like quanchi, or phenom, and thus, I can never be them. 🙂

In fact, your wording could have insulted me, for saying I'm going to be the next phenom, or quanchi. Plus, you also said you were ashamed of me.
Trolling? I think so. 🙂
It was unnecessary, and very hurtful. 🙁

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer went over a lightyear in about a second and traveled half a MILLION lightyears in a few seconds, both of which mean that he's capable of significantly more than 10x lightspeed.

I said Ive never seen it not it never happened.

Supes has gone so fast he left the Dcu

When surfer does that thru pure speed ill submit

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I said Ive never seen it not it never happened.

Supes has gone so fast he left the Dcu

When surfer does that thru pure speed ill submit

Travel’s a just over a light year in a second
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4062/theinfinitygauntlet0442nt1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/113/theinfinitygauntlet0443pu8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9909/theinfinitygauntlet0444le1.jpg

Travels half a million light years in seconds
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

Another “light years in seconds” feat
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8551/ff41315hc7.jpg

Crosses universe
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7020/ssenslavers06vb5.jpg

Surfer(who's flying) arrives on location at the same time as Beta Ray Bill and Quasar(who teleport to get there)
http://i82.imagethrust.com/images/3Lpz/view-image/starmasters3014.html

As for the whole "flying to Heaven" thing, it's an unquantifiable feat. I've never seen PC Supes keep a matter sphere separated from an anti-matter sphere, so does that mean that he isn't as strong as the Hulk? PC Supes best ACTUAL speed feat(at least to my knowledge) is time travel through speed but you know what...Surfer's done it too 😬 .

Originally posted by darthgoober

As for the whole "flying to Heaven" thing, it's an unquantifiable feat. I've never seen PC Supes keep a matter sphere separated from an anti-matter sphere, so does that mean that he isn't as strong as the Hulk? PC Supes best ACTUAL speed feat(at least to my knowledge) is time travel through speed but you know what...Surfer's done it too 😬 .

1. It makes no since because the hulk is made of matter
2. It would require almost no strnegth at all to do because of the weak electrical bonds. A toddler could do it. Then blow up from touching the antimatter ball of course....

Toddler>Hulk! 😱

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
It is knida funny you bring up the sphere thing because

1. It makes no since because the hulk is made of matter
2. It would require almost no strnegth at all to do because of the weak electrical bonds. A toddler could do it. Then blow up from touching the antimatter ball of course....

1. And Supes going so fast he travels to Heaven makes sense how?
2. You're trying to bring in real world science, and that's a no go due to the on panel narration. Via the story it was a significant strength feat, so "real world" reasoning doesn't factor into it. Via "real world" science, it's impossible for someone to go faster than the speed of light, so does that mean that we disregard everyone's "faster than light movement" feats? In that case, Surfer is DEFINATELY equal to PC Supes in the speed department because both of them top out at just shy of lightspeed.

Originally posted by darthgoober
1. And Supes going so fast he travels to Heaven makes sense how?
2. You're trying to bring in real world science, and that's a no go due to the on panel narration. Via the story it was a significant strength feat, so "real world" reasoning doesn't factor into it. Via "real world" science, it's impossible for someone to go faster than the speed of light, so does that mean that we disregard everyone's "faster than light movement" feats? In that case, Surfer is DEFINATELY equal to PC Supes in the speed department because both of them top out at just shy of lightspeed.

No einstein said it was imposible but he was only human.

He could be wrong of course....

Originally posted by darthgoober
I didn't say anything about a physical confrontation, nor does the thread limit specify it as such.

I know that, I said Surfer in no way can fight Superman striaght up! Surfer can beat ANY Superman by just draining his ass (if he finds out he runs on Solar Energy).

This thread fails.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No einstein said it was imposible but he was only human.

He could be wrong of course....

Anyway we're drifting off the subject, what QUANTIFIABLE speed feats does PC Supes have to put him heads and tails over Surfer?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Einstein used the laws of physics to make the determination, and those are the same laws that allow us to speculate in regards to matter/anti-matter. You throw them out for one it's only fair to do it for the other, which means that you're reasoning behind the demeaning of the feat goes out the window since I'm fairly sure no one's ever actually attempted it.

Anyway we're drifting off the subject, what QUANTIFIABLE speed feats does PC Supes have to put him heads and tails over Surfer?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Einstein used the laws of physics to make the determination, and those are the same laws that allow us to speculate in regards to matter/anti-matter. You throw them out for one it's only fair to do it for the other, which means that you're reasoning behind the demeaning of the feat goes out the window since I'm fairly sure no one's ever actually attempted it.

Anyway we're drifting off the subject, what QUANTIFIABLE speed feats does PC Supes have to put him heads and tails over Surfer?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Off the top of my head trillions of miles in seconds with a little burst of speed,

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
surfer has bad reaction and combat speed,

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
pc supes could open up with wide heat vision,

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
speedblitz

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
or any other options to demolish surfer.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer's has plenty of "cross the universe" feats as well, so I'll need to see a scan or issue number tell if it's more impressive than some of what Norrin's accomplished.

What makes you think that?

Surfer's immune to heat...

Doubtful.

Such as? You have to remember, I already gave PC Supes the majority I'm just arguing Surfer's ability to pull SOME wins. And given Surfer's capacity to whip up K-nite and red sun radiation, I think that doing so is well within his capability.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Where was is stated surfer is immune to heat,and heres the scanhttp://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc1bc4.jpg ,and im still not seeing how we cant use precrisis supes feat of crossing the multiverse and then breaking infinity and about to go into heaven,surfer has never showed good combat speed against anyone like...ever...thing,hulk ect have hit him before and in the latter case koed him..pc supes could easily do it if he wanted,surfer would still have to try and use cosmic awareness first...then deduct the weakness...and then try and conjur up something in the fight..which against pc supes he just wouldnt have the time to,and krptonite wouldnt work considering pc supes universe doesnt exist anymore so neither does his kryptonite.

I'll answer one question though, since I'm pretty sure Darth doesn't have this.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Where was is stated surfer is immune to heat

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I don't want to be a dick, but your post is so full of "awesome", it looks ridonkules...

I'll answer one question though, since I'm pretty damn sure Darth doesn't have this.

Here, mother f*cking Korvac throws a hot cosmic bolt at Surfer, and Surfer takes it, and tells him why it won't/didn't work.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/AvengersAnnual16-19.jpg

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
🙁...is it really that dumb for me to be arguing pc supes could whip surfers ass.....and that shows he has a high tolerance for heat not immunity...if you forget supes heat vision has crazy feats like him and supergirl sealing entire universe with it and shit like that...I really dont see surfer being unaffected by a pc supes heat vision blast.

Also, Korvac... 😐