Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er I dont think he did that straight afterwards. From what I remember everybody was concentrating on SBP not Henshaw, he had time to recover.
So you can be almost dead and then taking shots from skyfather level beings and pwning GL's effortlessly in a few minutes?
Does that make sense to you?
Here is Major Force after he pissed of Supes by trying to fight him after draining energy from Superman.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/Supermanv218516.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/Supermanv218517.jpg
The results aren't pretty.
Originally posted by Avlon
So you can be almost dead and then taking shots from skyfather level beings and pwning GL's effortlessly in a few minutes?Does that make sense to you?
If you have superhuman stamina.....yeah. Furthermore why would he say "H-he almost did it, he almost killed me.", like he was **** scared. Hell hes been stuck on the source wall, blown to pieces...but.....
**** HE ALMOST KOED ME.....AIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!
Does that make sense to you?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If you have superhuman stamina.....yeah. Furthermore why would he say "H-he almost did it, he almost killed me.", like he was **** scared. Hell hes been stuck on the source wall, blown to pieces...but.....**** HE ALMOST KOED ME.....AIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!
Does that make sense to you?
So Superhuman stamina means that after coming back from being nearly dead...you can manhandle herald level beings and laugh off blasts from enraged skyfather leveled beings after only a few minutes tops.
And manhunters can resurrect the dead.
Is this what you are implying?
Originally posted by Avlon
So Superhuman stamina means that after coming back from being nearly dead...you can manhandle herald level beings and laugh off blasts from enraged skyfather leveled beings after only a few minutes tops.And manhunters can resurrect the dead.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Furthermore why would he say "H-he almost did it, he almost killed me.", like he was **** scared. Hell hes been stuck on the source wall, blown to pieces...but.....**** HE ALMOST KOED ME.....AIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!
Does that make sense to you?
What skyfather level beings did he fight? I thought he was fighting GLs.
edit: yeah he did actually, still doesnt change the logic. What that shows is that Henshaw has different showings. Besides it looks like both events happened in different comics.
Originally posted by AvlonAnd manhunters can resurrect the dead.
They are both made from similar tech all they did was give him a jolt of energy. I guess if they had said we ressurected him in black and white you would still have interpreted it differently.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Your acting like draining supes would take hours. He could drain him fairly fast and while weakened he could blast him dead.
You don't get it, do you? From the moment Surfer tries to "drain him" of solar radiation, Superman's body would continually replenish himself with extra solar energy.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Surfer has multiple options. Its not just red sun, k nite, and solar draining, its a combination of the 3 or even other options.
And while Surfer tries to think of convoluted and intricate plans on how to defeat Superman in mid battle, I suppose Clark is just going to sit there and let him, am I right?
One thing Surfer backers never seem to get. There's a difference between having the ability to do something and the actual execution of said plan. While Surfer is analyzing Superman's body, Clark is going to be right on his ass punching him off his board and stomping his head into the ground. And he can actually execute this based upon the fact that Superman has more impressive combat speed feats than Norrin.
Besides, whether or not Norrin can affect Superman with kryptonite is speculative. As we've seen before, kryptonite from another universe doesn't hurt a Kryptonian at all if he's not from that specific universe.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Just cause power cosmic blasts are not supermans weakness doesnt mean a full powered cosmic blasts wouldn't hurt or even kill supes eventually.
This is about as justified as me saying Superman melts Surfer's head off with heat vision.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What skyfather level beings did he fight? I thought he was fighting GLs.edit: yeah he did actually, still doesnt change the logic. What that shows is that Henshaw has different showings. Besides it looks like both events happened in different comics.
It was a back to back showing. Plus...Superman had help AND it was off panel. The only thing that came close to killing Henshaw that entire battle was when Henshaw put himself in ground zero and willingly took the blast.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
They are both made from similar tech all they did was give him a jolt of energy. I guess if they had said we ressurected him in black and white you would still have interpreted it differently.
Henshaw has lived in things without energy before (clay statue) and been just fine. Manhunters cannot ressurect. It's simple. Yea..they jolted him AWAKE..however..they didn't jolt him to LIFE. Even the Guardians knew that Henshaw would return.
This is off topic though..I'll get back to the main thread.
Supes wins...but both have options to beat each other.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Ive been reading JLA and Superman pretty consistently for the last year now, and have never seen him using this T-Vo power...Can someone please explain what the hell it is?
Originally posted by Avlon
Superman sucks Dominus into a psychic areana of his choosing using Torquasm Vo. One of his lesser used abilities. It's borderline reality control.
Originally posted by Avlon
Superman resists actual reality control and adapts to it on the fly...
He even turns into Kingdom come Superman and Superman 1M while fighting.
He recently used it in the Omac mini as well.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
This is exactly what im talking about, if you read the first scans it explains how Superman was able to beat Dominus. Those are specific circumstances. 🙄I'll reply to the rest of the post later...not in the mood right now.
I stated nothing but that he used it to beat Dominus. Anyway..this is getting annoying and to the point of member bashing.
Get off it already ESPECIALLY since it's off topic.
Originally posted by Avlon
I stated nothing but that he used it to beat Dominus. Anyway..this is getting annoying and to the point of member bashing.Get off it already ESPECIALLY since it's off topic.
Ok fair enough, just that it was used by another poster that Supes beat Dominus so therefore he can beat such and such.
Sorry you feel like im bashing but im just being frank about how I feel, I wasnt even trying to annoy you.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
And what would stop Surfer from siphoning Superman's energy while preventing new solar power from reaching him?
It'd be a tug of war with the burden of proof coming from those not only saying Surfer will be able to better syphon solar energy then S-Man but he can manage to cut him off from the surrounding energy as well and do all this before Superman gets his hands on him and starts cleaning house.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok fair enough, just that it was used by another poster that Supes beat Dominus so therefore he can beat such and such.Sorry you feel like im bashing but im just being frank about how I feel, I wasnt even trying to annoy you.
It's an extremely powerful ability given how it's been shown, especially once you combine it with Torquasm-Rao.
Superman has used it to heal, and up his own defense to magic, and physical blows.
It's a viable tactic..and pretty much as cheesy as the PC.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary3.jpgHe uses T-vo to absorb a powerful attack from Advesary. Who is magical.
Originally posted by Papa SmurphUhm yes it will. Surfers power cosmic is mightier and more versatile than Kal's powers. Who says he will try to use k-nite on him? He doesnt need to.
The Red Solar energy Surfer emits probably won't be enough to lower Superman enough for him to get the win.Especially considering he's going to have to immediatly recognize that Kryptonite won't work on him then switch it up (unless he's hitting Superman with both at the same time, a tactic we know Surfer is not smart enough to devise).
Originally posted by InhumanExactly,that it seems is usually the argument from the Superman backers here. He wins because hes Superman.... 😂
Your acting like draining supes would take hours. He could drain him fairly fast and while weakened he could blast him dead.
Surfer has multiple options. Its not just red sun, k nite, and solar draining, its a combination of the 3 or even other options.
Just cause power cosmic blasts are not supermans weakness doesnt mean a full powered cosmic blasts wouldn't hurt or even kill supes eventually.😂
Superman debates always come down this this.
I doubt this fight (or any in the VS. forum involving clark) would take place in a Superman comic book writen by a Superman writer.
