"Superman #153: Superman became the first being ever in the history of the Universe to defeat an Imperiex probe. He used a combination of super speed and super strength to destroy an Imperiex space construct ; said construct was capable of annihilating our solar system. Note that Superman took a blast from Imperiex, the beam aforementioned as being able to vaporize a solar system"
What's a planet/meteor compared to a solar system?
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ok, Im done being nice. If you actually own the comic you f*cking moron you would know that it is not a planet. And it was the combined power of Morg and Surfer that blew up a space rock. It is geting annoying with you making sh!t up all of the time just to suit your needs. Grow up jack @ss.
Insulting people will get you know where.
Surfer vs Doomsday is debatable, but I said that nukes enough to obliterate the moon is WAAAAAY the hell above Doomsday's punches. I never said Surfer could take either for long, it was me pointing out a inconsistancy in Superman's writing. Though apparently, other than Doomsday, Superman is just indestructible when DC doesn't want him to die. Which is kinda stupid, but even disregarding the concussive blast issue, we've established that Superman could neither hit Surfer nor survive against many of his alternative tactics (radiation, the rock to kryptonite thing, planet destruction, since Supes needs to breath if he doesn't die in the blast)
"Adventures of Superman #477: survives being at ground zero of an imploding sun-eater, followed by a plummet to Earth. KO'd; otherwise OK afterwards."
"Superman for All Seasons #1 and Trinity #1: impressively endures ground zero nukes without loss of consciousness or injury. "
"After racing the Man of Steel, Impulse stated that Superman travels at 99% of the speed of light."
Originally posted by The Flash
"Man of Steel #127: takes an island-destroying nuke while sitting in Kryptonite-laced sand. No injury or loss of consciousness."Kryptonite involved and the Man of Steel didn't get injured?!
That ones pretty stupid then... Unless you choose to deny Kryptonite as Superman's weakness... Remember he lost to Batman when Brucey had a chunk of the stuff.
And no way is Superman on par with Flash speed wise. That's a bad stat.
Originally posted by Dizzle
So he's as fast as Flash then? Cuz Flash can only move 99% light speed without entering the Speed Force.
But yet Flash has the ablility to tap into the Speedforce at will. He doesnt always move at lightspeeds ya know. But can exceed it whenever he wants. Flash only allows Superman to be as close as he wants him to be.
You ARE denying it... Does it directly state this somewhere, or are you basing that on feats? (the kryptonite immunity)
And when Flash enters the Speed Force, he goes on an inexact time traveling spree, effectively taking himself out of a fight. So in a fight situation, his max is 99% of light speed.
Originally posted by DizzleWho are you talking to?
You ARE denying it... Does it directly state this somewhere, or are you basing that on feats? (the kryptonite immunity)And when Flash enters the Speed Force, he goes on an inexact time traveling spree, effectively taking himself out of a fight. So in a fight situation, his max is 99% of light speed.
Originally posted by DizzleTo be honest I do not remember but I did read it somewhere, sorry if I dont remember everything. Hey I could be wrong but somehow I think it might have even been on Smallville. I just know I heard it somewhere.
You ARE denying it... Does it directly state this somewhere, or are you basing that on feats? (the kryptonite immunity)
Surfer is faster than superman -- shown able to go beyond light speed
Surfer has more raw power --- can destroy a planet with his cosmic blast.
Surfer has more tools ----- he can use any radiation , drain energy etc. list goes on and on.
here is what the powercosmic did to people in the past.
Thing - Surfer can turn him into statue
Hulk -- he can turn him into Bruce banner
Gladiator -- Surfer claimed he will have no problem with him. Because he can blast him with radiation that will hurt Glad.
Surfer can rearange Molecules.
Surfer takes this easy.
about 20 nukes had no effect on Surfer.
Now people might say the thing , the hulk has giving him hard time.
You have to know that silver surfer is not a killer , and never uses his full power.
the thing whould have been turned into living statue , yet he was punching SS.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Who are you talking to?
You and the guy who posted while I was replying to you.
And in Smallville, he has a good number of Superman's powers at (near) full capacity, where Superman himself said in comics that his powers developed slowly, only reaching their full power when Supes became an adult. DO NOT listen to that show. Kryptonite killz Supes easy as ever.
I still have no idea why this is an argument. Surfer is the gap between Superman level characters and cosmic beings like Thanos... He is his own league.
Originally posted by Dizzle
You ARE denying it... Does it directly state this somewhere, or are you basing that on feats? (the kryptonite immunity)And when Flash enters the Speed Force, he goes on an inexact time traveling spree, effectively taking himself out of a fight. So in a fight situation, his max is 99% of light speed.
Well im not sure if you knew this but Flash can absorb the speed of others to move faster than lightspeed without actual time travel. When he taps into the speedforce on his own however, he doesnt automatically do it either(time travel). When he enters the speedforce, its a RISK that he time travels, thats why he doesnt always do it. There has been an occasion or two where he doesnt travel in time, but yet taps into the speedforce. Just so you know. 😄