Superman vs Silver surfer

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Its a good feat no doubt. I asked how that proves he can oneshot planets? Thats all.
It's an ambiguous feat is what it is. There's no description of how much weight he's moving along or what force he's putting into it. All he's doing is tugging a chain which is supposedly turning millwheels inside Mageddon. Of course, as other people have noted, the use of gears actually provides a "mechanical advantage." A multiplication of the force put into it. Frankly, even when you manage to start movement, keeping up the momentum is far easier. Think about those guys who can move buses with their teeth from a deadstart. Getting it to budge is the hard part, keeping up the momentum is easier. We don't even know if Superman started moving those gears from a dead start.

And what number of gears were there? J'onn seems to note that the number is endless. Who knows how much of a mechanical advantage there actually was. How big were they individually? Who knows. But the second scan shows some of them in the background and if you look in the right hand corner, you'll see some slaves carrying around blocks. So they don't seem that big:
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg0ac.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg23jf.jpg

Boo ambiguity.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's an ambiguous feat is what it is. There's no description of how much weight he's moving along or what force he's putting into it. All he's doing is tugging a chain which is supposedly turning millwheels inside Mageddon. Of course, as other people have noted, the use of gears actually provides a "mechanical advantage." A multiplication of the force put into it. Frankly, even when you manage to start movement, keeping up the momentum is far easier. Think about those guys who can move buses with their teeth from a deadstart. Getting it to budge is the hard part, keeping up the momentum is easier. We don't even know if Superman started moving those gears from a dead start.

And what number of gears were there? J'onn seems to note that the number is endless. Who knows how much of a mechanical advantage there actually was. How big were they individually? Who knows. But the second scan shows some of them in the background and if you look in the right hand corner, you'll see some slaves carrying around blocks. So they don't seem that big:
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg0ac.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg23jf.jpg

Boo ambiguity.

Exactly, thanks for explaining it. It is impressive imo but it is very ambiguous and doesnt prove a thing. It doesnt prove he can oneshot planets by any means.

Again onedumbgo you get it and have ruined my fun.

On one of the following pages, J'onn says that Superman is being used to supplement Mageddon's power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly, thanks for explaining it. It is impressive imo but it is very ambiguous and doesnt prove a thing. It doesnt prove he can oneshot planets by any means.

Again onedumbgo you get it and have ruined my fun.

Screw you and your fun...

... not really. dur

No shit Sherlock. No one was saying he wasn't doing anything, just that it was not his strength alone.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Screw you and your fun...

... not really. dur

🙁

When you type really your supposed to say relly.

Thats the inside joke on here.

For rell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
🙁

When you type really your supposed to say relly.

Thats the inside joke on here.

For rell.

Screw you and your inside jokes...

... what? 😐

🐰

Not really. dur

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Screw you and your inside jokes...

... what? 😐

🐰

Not really. dur

😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has never lost to the Silver Surfer so it would be pis/cis to have him one as no writer has given him the victory over Thanos.

Thanos has also done much better against the same opponents such as Odin and tyrant. But lets not get off topic surfer wins.

They ignore on panel feats and go by what they believe can happen, so most likely since in the comics surfer has been hit by thanos but on the forum they would basically say that surfer would hit thanos a 1000 times with the cosmic power before he blinks. What happens on panel is thrown out the window.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's an ambiguous feat is what it is. There's no description of how much weight he's moving along or what force he's putting into it. All he's doing is tugging a chain which is supposedly turning millwheels inside Mageddon. Of course, as other people have noted, the use of gears actually provides a "mechanical advantage." A multiplication of the force put into it. Frankly, even when you manage to start movement, keeping up the momentum is far easier. Think about those guys who can move buses with their teeth from a deadstart. Getting it to budge is the hard part, keeping up the momentum is easier. We don't even know if Superman started moving those gears from a dead start.

And what number of gears were there? J'onn seems to note that the number is endless. Who knows how much of a mechanical advantage there actually was. How big were they individually? Who knows. But the second scan shows some of them in the background and if you look in the right hand corner, you'll see some slaves carrying around blocks. So they don't seem that big:
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg0ac.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg23jf.jpg

Boo ambiguity.

Damn youre good. You are a hard guy to argue against.

Great job. You have made a lot of people mad at you, you have officially got yourself banned. 🙁

Originally posted by carver9
They ignore on panel feats and go by what they believe can happen, so most likely since in the comics surfer has been hit by thanos but on the forum they would basically say that surfer would hit thanos a 1000 times with the cosmic power before he blinks. What happens on panel is thrown out the window.
I know.

😛

Originally posted by carver9
Damn youre good. You are a hard guy to argue against.

Great job. You have made a lot of people mad at you, you have officially got yourself banned. 🙁

Ya, I like how his nuts support me as well.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya, I like how his nuts support me as well.

I truly have to stop giving people props for good post, every time I see a good post and tell them good job someone has to say a gay comment. Damn Im too nice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its a good feat no doubt. I asked how that proves he can oneshot planets? Thats all.

i never said it did.

his other strength feats do that easily enough as it is...

Originally posted by Raoul
i never said it did.

his other strength feats do that easily enough as it is...

I never said you said it did. I asked for tricks explanation as to how this equates the ability to oneshot planets.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
On one of the following pages, J'onn says that Superman is being used to supplement Mageddon's power.

Supes equals Centrum pill...?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's an ambiguous feat is what it is. There's no description of how much weight he's moving along or what force he's putting into it. All he's doing is tugging a chain which is supposedly turning millwheels inside Mageddon. Of course, as other people have noted, the use of gears actually provides a "mechanical advantage." A multiplication of the force put into it. Frankly, even when you manage to start movement, keeping up the momentum is far easier. Think about those guys who can move buses with their teeth from a deadstart. Getting it to budge is the hard part, keeping up the momentum is easier. We don't even know if Superman started moving those gears from a dead start.

And what number of gears were there? J'onn seems to note that the number is endless. Who knows how much of a mechanical advantage there actually was. How big were they individually? Who knows. But the second scan shows some of them in the background and if you look in the right hand corner, you'll see some slaves carrying around blocks. So they don't seem that big:
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg0ac.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg23jf.jpg

Boo ambiguity.

the ambiguity was never up for question, but there are several things that have to be considered, like the sheer size of the thing, or the fact that it was a weapon capable of killing the old gods.

those two things alone should be more than enough to portray that superman powering mageddon in any shape or form is still a very impressive feat...

Originally posted by illadelph12
Supes equals Centrum pill...?

fo rell.

Originally posted by Raoul
i never said it did.

his other strength feats do that easily enough as it is...

and what other feat is that?

Originally posted by carver9
and what other feat is that?

feats. plural. 😬

warworld. doomsday. gog. black adam. konvict. darkseid. orion. infinity man.

and thats just for starters...

Originally posted by Raoul
the ambiguity was never up for question, but there are several things that have to be considered, like the sheer size of the thing, or the fact that it was a weapon capable of killing the old gods.

those two things alone should be more than enough to portray that superman powering mageddon in any shape or form is still a very impressive feat...

fo rell.

I agree its impressive but we dont know how impressive it is. Thats his point there are a lot of unknown variables to this feat.

It was a weapon capable of killing the old gods but this has nothing to do with its size.