Originally posted by Avlon
Bull. Feel free to believe what you wish though.
Unless I'm mistaken Bada said something about how he'd hand out warnings for someone doing exactly what you did if he started getting reports for it the way he was getting reports for quan. But it's ok, I understand that you didn't realize you were breaking the rules at the time and I'm not holding it against you. I don't know why it's even still being discussed.
Originally posted by Avlon
Nonsense is right. Dodging laser feats are nothing special in comics. Captain America has SS beat by a fair amount if this is what you are going by:http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9139/gambit05115fh.jpg
http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc17&image=69f_batagile12e.jpg
The difference of course being that you just showed scans of agile guys staying ahead of a lazers aim and in the scans I posted Surfer actually reacted to the blast's after they were fired.
Originally posted by Avlon
Look back up at the scans. They are actually more impressive than what you have posted in regards to laser reflexes/speed. As for what I meant with the scan. YOU are going to tell ME what I meant?
Nope. Dodging a blast after it's fired is more impressive. There are guys walking around on the street in the real world that have successfully dove for cover while under fire from automatic weapons, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who can see that an in flight bullet is going to hit them and can lift something to block it or duck beneath it in response.
And where did you see me tell you what you meant?
Originally posted by Avlon
Here are some more examples of speed from Supes.http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=37951180lp5.jpg
Live in 2 COMPLETELY different cities performing complex actions.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/c16.jpg
NONE of those in anyway indicate how fast an "in character" blitz from Supes is.
And what issue is that last scan from?
Originally posted by Avlon
So let me get this straight... Surfer creates black holes more than Superman uses speed?
Dude you're trippin, I never said that Surfer creates black holes more than Supes uses speed. I said that Supes almost never uses speed and then went on to give a quantifiable demonstration of Surfer's upper-limits for the tactic you attributed him. Supes never actually shatters planets and almost never goes all out but that's the strength level people talk about his using routinely whether his in thread opponent is Thor or Namor.
Originally posted by Avlon
Not like it matters since creating a black hole won't affect Supes and will slow down SS where he's an easy target.
The black hole himself might not affect him, but a blast sufficient to create one would. Not saying that Surfer WOULD hit him with a blast that powerful, just that it's possible.
Originally posted by Avlon
You can't even prove that CA will determine kryptonite nor can you prove that he could create it. As a matter of fact, you're still working on viable speed feats in battle.
Well let's see....
A. Several energy manipulators with varying degrees of skill and power have successfully replicated K-nite in the past.
B. Radioactive Man successfully created K-Nite in JLA/Avengers.
C. Surfer's ability to manipulate energy>Radioactive Man's.
By the same token, you can't actually prove that Superman would one shot Wolverine because he's never done so, but every indication provided by comics certainly seems to lend credit to his being able to do so.
Originally posted by Avlon
An on panel power that has been used multiple times is now equated to breaking the 4th wall? Because YOU don't understand it, it doesn't make it any less viable. Sorry, that's not how we debate here.
From what I've heard NO ONE understands it. It's effects vary from writer to writer and there hasn't been enough info provided on it to explain them(it's mostly supposition and such).
Besides you're overlooking the part where it's a self BFR.
