Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by ultimatethor
So you have no valid reason for why SS cant absorb supes solar enrgy? Supes is more powerful than SS? in what way? SS has way more powers than him and is among the top dogs in almost evry single one of those powers. What then do u define as being more poweful? SS has absorbed enrgy from heralds like, Firelord and terrax. Can u also explain or show an example of supes reverse absorbing? When did he become an enrgy manipulator? Draining supes cells to weaken him would be easy. Also why would SS need to touch supes to drain him? He is a high end enrgy manipulator not another version of rogue. Also why would surfer need to teleport himself to the future? The only person going anywhere would be superman. also that supes feat hardly justifies ur claim regarding his level speed in one on one confrontations .

Actually Superman had so many freaking speed feats in one on one confrontations in his respect thread I was just too lazy to copy all of that shit. And The point about surfer having to touch superman is that I've seen no one else on a herald like level do that to superman. Especially without an actual touch like the parasite. Since it's not surfer's gimmick to do that, I can't see him being an expert in power absorbtion.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I can see you using unilord is going to be something to grasp onto. So Superman pulls surfer into the tvo land and pwns him a trillion ways.

Surfer has plenty of feats on the astral plane, hell what are the billions of blackbodies he absorbed??

Originally posted by janus77
how precisely?
give me a scenario and an idea of why "tvo" would work on Surfer?
what is tvo even?

Surfer has plenty of feats on the astral plane, hell what are the billions of blackbodies he absorbed??

err yeah, umm scans? something a little less vague?

Scarlet Witch alters reality, Surfer does so on a greatly diminished scale, what precisely does Superman do with it?

I wanna see this.

Surfer solos the JLA and JSA. Why is this thread still going on?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually Superman had so many freaking speed feats in one on one confrontations in his respect thread I was just too lazy to copy all of that shit. And The point about surfer having to touch superman is that I've seen no one else on a herald like level do that to superman. Especially without an actual touch like the parasite. Since it's not surfer's gimmick to do that, I can't see him being an expert in power absorbtion.

Yeah yeah im sure he does but most of them are at indeterminable speeds. Further can u give some examples of superman resisting his enrgy being drained by a surfer level enrgy manipulator. Surfer level enrgy manipulators dont need to touch people to drain enrgy. That is not even an argument. Surfer has absorbed enrgy from numerous beings, stars,and machines. He is quite adept at enrgy absorption.

Originally posted by janus77
err yeah, umm scans? something a little less vague?

Scarlet Witch alters reality, Surfer does so on a greatly diminished scale, what precisely does Superman do with it?

I wanna see this.

Originally posted by batdude123
Surfer solos the DC universe

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Originally posted by ultimatethor
Yeah yeah im sure he does but most of them are at indeterminable speeds. Further can u give some examples of superman resisting his enrgy being drained by a surfer level enrgy manipulator. Surfer level enrgy manipulators dont need to touch people to drain enrgy. That is not even an argument. Surfer has absorbed enrgy from numerous beings, stars,and machines. He is quite adept at enrgy absorption.

I'm sure he is. Now show me him absorbing energy from a being who has a protective aura around them. you have to TOUCH superman to absorb his power unless you got some magics.

Originally posted by Mindset
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if Surfer can turn artificial intelligence into a living organism, I'd say that's altering reality somewhat.

Surfer castes illusions, changes dna etc etc... they're alterations, on a smaller scale but alterations nonetheless.

now please present the scan and the reasoning.

Originally posted by janus77
if Surfer can turn artificial intelligence into a living organism, I'd say that's altering reality somewhat.

Surfer castes illusions, changes dna etc etc... they're alterations, on a smaller scale but alterations nonetheless.

now please present the scan and the reasoning.

Casting illusions can be bending light or altering perception. niether are reality manip. Changing a robot into a living being isn't reality manip either. that is matter manipulation. Sersi, firestorm, and even hal jordan can all do that as well.

Check out superman's respect thread. he beat dominus with TVO

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sure he is. Now show me him absorbing energy from a being who has a protective aura around them. you have to TOUCH superman to absorb his power unless you got some magics.

clearly solar energy can pass the aura, all Surfer has to do is give Superman a solar energy reflecting glaze and bim Superman is about as "super" as Rhino.

Originally posted by janus77
ridiculous nonsense. how does Superman take in solar energy then, if this aura is so impervious to energy?

clearly solar energy can pass the aura, all Surfer has to do is give Superman a solar energy reflecting glaze and bim Superman is about as "super" as Rhino.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Casting illusions can be bending light or altering perception. niether are reality manip. Changing a robot into a living being isn't reality manip either. that is matter manipulation. Sersi, firestorm, and even hal jordan can all do that as well.

Check out superman's respect thread. he beat dominus with TVO

"altering reality" is composed of all those things, it's just that Scarlet Witch, Celestials, Kubik etc do it on a much vaster scale.

that's why I said on a smaller scale, in reference to Surfer.

anyway, Surfer's survived and even saved Adam Warlock (I think) from the reality altering madness of the Reality Gem, iirc...
so what's your argument?

Originally posted by fangirl101
UM, Things get in, and cant get out. ever heard that term. Didn't say it was impervious to energy.

Surfer could easily screw with the "aura" 🙂

that's if he needed to bother, which he wouldn't as he could easily prevent solar energy reaching Superman at all.

Originally posted by janus77
I'd like your reasoning, no good just asking me to hunt down a scan.

"altering reality" is composed of all those things, it's just that Scarlet Witch, Celestials, Kubik etc do it on a much vaster scale.

that's why I said on a smaller scale, in reference to Surfer.

anyway, Surfer's survived and even saved Adam Warlock (I think) from the reality altering madness of the Reality Gem, iirc...
so what's your argument?

Originally posted by janus77
Red Sun energy gets in then?

Surfer could easily screw with the "aura" 🙂

that's if he needed to bother, which he wouldn't as he could easily prevent solar energy reaching Superman at all.

lol,
well then, Surfer turns Superman into a rock 🙂
paper > rock innit?

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sure he is. Now show me him absorbing energy from a being who has a protective aura around them. you have to TOUCH superman to absorb his power unless you got some magics.

Is there actually prove of this? or is it speculation. Do u have examples of supes aura preventing his enrgy from being absorbed without touching him?