Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Avlon
Why would he dodge something that would power him up like so iF it was regular sunlight? Superman performed a similar trick with light while training krypto btw.

Originally posted by Avlon
Surfer bluffing that he could beat Glads constitutes as evidence now?

Originally posted by Avlon
How many guys have told Surfer that they could kill him for various reasons? 🙂

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
There's a good reason The Surfer has a lead of greater than 100 votes in the poll.

You count vote FTW ... 😕 😘 My god another dubya in making.

Originally posted by Decimus
Supes wins 6/10. Surfer gets beasted by Torquasm Vo.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Silver Surfer is now here near Superman in terms of strength. Get that out of your head right now. His travel speed is great. But in actual battle feats, Superman has him beat all day. Superman could hit surfer thousands of times in the time it takes surfer to hit superman once. surfer cannot time travel in this fight. that would be a self bfr and thus losing the match.

Here comes the ridiculousness of superman fans. Who has superman ever hit thousands of times in the way u say? Please stop making things up. Such tactics are just desperate attempts which have failed and will fail time and time again. Surfer also does not need to time travel himself in order to BFr someone in time.

Originally posted by Avlon
That xover made Superman the second most powerful being in existence...(Reed's words) so PC would just make Superman near unstoppable. =)

Superman isn't the Hulk.

Without exploiting weaknesses, Surfer isn't winning any. The guy hasn't beaten guys like Thor or Darkseid..he ain't hanging with Supes.

?????

Surfer isnt winning any without exploiting weaknesses? So we should just throw out his on par if not superior durablility+shields,and superior offensive capabilities just to follow the ABC logic that because has not beaten Darkseid or thor he loses? without taking into account the cirucumstances and descriptions of his fights with these beings(one of them is a freaking crossover)?

Really i dont know when superman became a high end energy manipulator like thor and i also i dont know when not being able to beat thor( even though he actually has never lost to regular thor) startied to mean that u are unable to hang with superman who has a completely different and unrelated powerset and mentality.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman could hit surfer thousands of times in the time it takes surfer to hit superman once.

Superman has been in my top 3 of favorite superheros since I was a child but Superman is outpowered here against Galactus's herald. The Silver Surfer is too fast and if anyone cannot grasp how Surfer's different array of powers will destroy Superman, you need help.

What in god's name can Superman do to counter Surfer's abilities? Not much, except for much sun dipping or lots of prep time.

Surfer 9.4/10

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Or, the Surfer could yank Superman onto the astral plane and directly attack his soul. He's used this technique several times during "In Thy Name".

In thy name you say- I have it right here and on page 43-44 Surfer gets really mangled by a Broonmade (An astral organism) on the physical plan. he later figure out how to defeat it yet he is knocked unconcious by it on his second encounter. Surfer is not very adept with the astral plane even though he says that the power cosmic is the source of it. Sorry I had to count since the pages are not numbered. Then surfer gets crucified on page 46-50 with blurpoons. His limits are most clearly shown in this arc. I like Surfer I just believe (based on feats) that he would not win more over Superman. Superman with the slight edge of 6/10 or whatever measurement system you find convenient. I respect and enjoy reading Surfer as well as his fans 😄

In the Superman/Silver Surfer crossover, it was shown that Norrin's power cosmic doesn't work correctly on things in the DC universe. So it is not a sure thing that he could create kryptonite that would give off the proper radiation.

While Superman does absorb solar energy, it is converted before being stored or used. So again, Surfer may not be able to drain his energy.

Obviously, there is evidence to support both sides, which casts reasonable doubt on those arguments. Given that I would see SS best option to be creating red solar energy which is not a guaranteed win.

Surfer still has a power set advantage, but a lot of people underestimate what Superman can do with what he has. This is not a fight that Superman could waltz through and play dumb, but he CAN win.

I say 5/10 split for either.

Originally posted by Priest
I didn't mention didn't mention anything about Surfer using a Omnidirectional attack with yellow sun radiation.

Never said you did. Just wanted to throw that scan in there since someone probably would have. After all..all SS did was get real bright. LOL.

Originally posted by Priest
I clearly said Surfer had to change the frequency to k-nite or red-sun radiation.

You'd have to prove that he can. Proof is good when claiming something.

Originally posted by Priest
But it does make you look like you know what your talking about. 🙂

Thanks for the vote of confidence. 🙂

Originally posted by Priest
Prove that Surfer is bluffing 😐

It's on panel...he did nothing of the sort. Now unless we are in the Bizarro world of ass backwards logic...it's up to you to prove that he can. 🙂

Originally posted by Priest
Better yet, u like to bring up that Superman can destroy planets when he fought Infinity Man..Prove that Superman wasn't bluffing then..
It's pretty obvious that your reaching Btw.

I didn't bring up Infinity man...but if you want to compare Surfer to a being that wiped out an entire race of gods, I'm sure a new gods fan somewhere would be more than happy to own you.

Originally posted by Redlineshifter
In the Superman/Silver Surfer crossover, it was shown that Norrin's things in the DC universe. So it is not a sure thing that he could create kryptonite that would give off the proper radiation.

While Superman does absorb solar energy, it is converted before being stored or used. So again, Surfer may not be able to drain his energy.

Obviously, there is evidence to support both sides, which casts reasonable doubt on those arguments. Given that I would see SS best option to be creating red solar energy which is not a guaranteed win.

Surfer still has a power set advantage, but a lot of people underestimate what Superman can do with what he has. This is not a fight that Superman could waltz through and play dumb, but he CAN win.

I say 5/10 split for either.

A reasonable man. What did you say your name was? 😉

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Or, the Surfer could yank Superman onto the astral plane and directly attack his soul. He's used this technique several times during "In Thy Name".

Considering Superman has overcome Blaze and Satannus who are both skyfather level. I'd highly bet against it.

Soul attacks are something that BOTH Surfer and Superman have dealt with on occasion. I don't see them being super-effective against either one of them.

Originally posted by Redlineshifter
In the Superman/Silver Surfer crossover, it was shown that Norrin's power cosmic doesn't work correctly on things in the DC universe. So it is not a sure thing that he could create kryptonite that would give off the proper radiation.

While Superman does absorb solar energy, it is converted before being stored or used. So again, Surfer may not be able to drain his energy.

Obviously, there is evidence to support both sides, which casts reasonable doubt on those arguments. Given that I would see SS best option to be creating red solar energy which is not a guaranteed win.

Surfer still has a power set advantage, but a lot of people underestimate what Superman can do with what he has. This is not a fight that Superman could waltz through and play dumb, but he CAN win.

I say 5/10 split for either.

Originally posted by Avlon
A reasonable man. What did you say your name was? 😉

My name is Redlineshifter- Strong, pure... and noble.

I had to edit my first post because I left out half a sentence. It should make more sense, now.

Originally posted by Mindset
In a non canon Silver Surfer/Superman crossover?

I agree it is not canon. But since we have no canon evidence of SS beating Supes via these tactics, I classified them under "reasonable doubt".

Originally posted by ultimatethor
?????

Surfer isnt winning any without exploiting weaknesses? So we should just throw out his on par if not superior durablility+shields,and superior offensive capabilities just to follow the ABC logic that because has not beaten Darkseid or thor he loses? without taking into account the cirucumstances and descriptions of his fights with these beings(one of them is a freaking crossover)?

So let me get this straight...because it's a crossover where you didn't like what happened...it must be ignored, right? I bet had Thor won, you'd be the 1st one with the THOR WON!!! T-shirt.

Those who want to be unpaid Marvel employees, feel free. I won't lose any sleep over it.

You can choose to disagree with me. It's fine, but you won't see me going to some fanboyish 10/10 wins for either side in an average scenario. As a guy who's read both titles on the regular (Supes & Surfer stuff) I'm more than happy to give each guy their share of wins.

Originally posted by Redlineshifter
I agree it is not canon. But since we have no canon evidence of SS beating Supes via these tactics, I classified them under "reasonable doubt".

Originally posted by Redlineshifter
My name is Redlineshifter- Strong, pure... and noble.

I had to edit my first post because I left out half a sentence. It should make more sense, now.

Great to have you here sir.

I hope your Torquasm Vo and Power cosmic shields are in effect. There are those here who would attack you for using common sense. 😉

Originally posted by Decimus
In thy name you say- I have it right here and on page 43-44 Surfer gets really mangled by a Broonmade (An astral organism) on the physical plan. he later figure out how to defeat it yet he is knocked unconcious by it on his second encounter. Surfer is not very adept with the astral plane even though he says that the power cosmic is the source of it. Sorry I had to count since the pages are not numbered. Then surfer gets crucified on page 46-50 with blurpoons. His limits are most clearly shown in this arc. I like Surfer I just believe (based on feats) that he would not win more over Superman. Superman with the slight edge of 6/10 or whatever measurement system you find convenient. I respect and enjoy reading Surfer as well as his fans 😄

Yes surfer did get taken out by it( by surprise) on the physical plane. After that is when he got crucified on the physical plane.. But When on the astral plane, he proved to be untouchable, he wasnt knocked out. He did show great skill on the astral plane in that arc.

Originally posted by Avlon
Great to have you here sir.

I hope your Torquasm Vo and Power cosmic shields are in effect. There are those here who would attack you for using common sense. 😉

I've noticed. I am choosing my posts carefully and ready to have my words dissected, reinterpreted and finally used to show how I am a fanboy one way or the other.