Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh come on Supes fans, I’m not even talking about a Battlezone to prove who wins in a forum fight between Surfer and Supes because that’d be way to easy for me and we‘d probably never agree on the judges anyway. I’m talking about a Battlezone to determine which side is actually “winning” the debate itself. In other words, which side of the argument is doing a better job of raising valid points and addressing and countering the points of their opponents rather than sidestepping/making BS claims and then claiming “victory“ in the argument. If your of the opinion that the result is an even split then go ahead and debate that, it’s about the debate itself not who wins a fight between Surfer and Supes.So come on, don’t be scared. All you have to do is bring a reasonable arguement to the table and you've got a legitimate shot at winning. Of course if you already know that all you're really doing is talking out of your ass...
Originally posted by darthgooberWow. If I were a Supes fan I wouldnt back down from this challenge.
Oh come on Supes fans, I’m not even talking about a Battlezone to prove who wins in a forum fight between Surfer and Supes because that’d be way to easy for me and we‘d probably never agree on the judges anyway. I’m talking about a Battlezone to determine which side is actually “winning” the debate itself. In other words, which side of the argument is doing a better job of raising valid points and addressing and countering the points of their opponents rather than sidestepping/making BS claims and then claiming “victory“ in the argument. If your of the opinion that the result is an even split then go ahead and debate that, it’s about the debate itself not who wins a fight between Surfer and Supes.So come on, don’t be scared. All you have to do is bring a reasonable arguement to the table and you've got a legitimate shot at winning. Of course if you already know that all you're really doing is talking out of your ass...
Originally posted by Priest
I would actually love to see another Battlezone, especially on this topic.
Avy, Great Galan, anyone?
What's a battlezone have that a standard debate doesn't? Do the results count for anything towards the standard threads?
Personally, I find Battlezone to be a waste of time.
Plus, there is too much animosity between Darth and Myself for any kind of respectable debating.
A battle zone with Surfer on KMC wouldn't be fair. KMC Surfer fans Think he's Galactus Level. And the only beings who can beat him are more powerful Marvel characters. No matter how many beings Superman has beaten that are >> Surfer and Galactus. No matter how many ridiculous feats Superman has, KMC surfer Pwns all.
Originally posted by fangirl101
A battle zone with Surfer on KMC wouldn't be fair. KMC Surfer fans Think he's Galactus Level. And the only beings who can beat him are more powerful Marvel characters. No matter how many beings Superman has beaten that are >> Surfer and Galactus. No matter how many ridiculous feats Superman has, KMC surfer Pwns all.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Originally posted by fangirl101
A battle zone with Surfer on KMC wouldn't be fair. KMC Surfer fans Think he's Galactus Level. And the only beings who can beat him are more powerful Marvel characters. No matter how many beings Superman has beaten that are >> Surfer and Galactus. No matter how many ridiculous feats Superman has, KMC surfer Pwns all.
So u think supes is the only one with ridiculous feats?
Oh please. Once more superman fans want to use ABC logic to justify wins. Really its just pathetic. I doubt u will catch anybody on KMC putting surfer at even close to skyfather level let alone Galactus level.
U dont catch surfer fans going around saying he can pwn Odin and all the other nonsense ive heard from some supes fans.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
So u think supes is the only one with ridiculous feats?
Oh please. Once more superman fans want to use ABC logic to justify wins. Really its just pathetic. I doubt u will catch anybody on KMC putting surfer at even close to skyfather level let alone Galactus level.
U dont catch surfer fans going around saying he can pwn Odin and all the other nonsense ive heard from some supes fans.
Originally posted by fangirl101
You didn't pay attention to what I said. I said that the only people who KMC surfer fans give wins to are More powerful MARVEL characters. Some people think Surfer can beat Darksied. Some KMC fans think Surfer can beat Takion. Hell, If I search, I'm sure I can find silly stuff like people thinking Thor and Surfer can beat the Entire Justice League. I'm almost positive I read that in an old thread. So um yeah. A battle zone with KMC Surfer would be pointless.
Really, well im sure the majority think that DS( when written properly) beats surfer. In a battlezone im sure DS wud beat win.Dont know much about takion anyways so cant really say. As for the surfer J league fight, I have to admit when i was a newb i thought surfer and thor could win( Too much CBR) 😮. Regardless in a battlezone, it wudnt be about who u like as a character it is about who can come up with the superior argument. If u think u have a gud arguement as to why SS loses to supes then step up to the plate.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Really, well im sure the majority think that DS( when written properly) beats surfer. In a battlezone im sure DS wud beat win.Dont know much about takion anyways so cant really say. As for the surfer J league fight, I have to admit when i was a newb i thought surfer and thor could win( Too much CBR) 😮. Regardless in a battlezone, it wudnt be about who u like as a character it is about who can come up with the superior argument. If u think u have a gud arguement as to why SS loses to supes then step up to the plate.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Why the hell would I battle zone Superman against Surfer? Superman isn't one of my favorites. Surfer is a superior character. I just don't think Surfer dominates Superman like most think. He wins a slight majority and that only due to Superman's weaknesses being Surfer's specialties.
I think we might also need a battlezone between SS and supes no weakness exploitation. Cuz i dont know how some think that supes dominates without weakness exploitation even when Ss still has superior offensive and defensive capabilities. Also note that MOST PEOPLE think surfer dominates supes not only most surfer fans. So there really is no super version of surfer being used on KMC. Heck On CBR surfer absolutely destroys superman prime.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
I think we might also need a battlezone between SS and supes no weakness exploitation. Cuz i dont know how some think that supes dominates without weakness exploitation even when Ss still has superior offensive and defensive capabilities. Also note that [B]MOST PEOPLE think surfer dominates supes not only most surfer fans. So there really is no super version of surfer being used on KMC. Heck On CBR surfer absolutely destroys superman prime. [/B]
Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman Prime? I would think that those people are idiots. Superman prime had a gaurdian Amp. Any single Gaurdian would ***** Surfer. Pull his energy out of him or turn him back into Norrin. SO what could surfer do to Super Boy Prime merged with the life force of a gaurdian? Not a damned thing. Surfer would find it hard to beat Superman with no weaknesses to exploit. Superman is faster in battle. Stronger. More Durable. And he also has T-Vo which would be an auto win.
Well on CBR they argue powersets alot so surfer simply creates a blackhole in SBPs retina.
Obviously withuot weakness exploitation it wud be a harder match. But superman is NOT more durable than surfer, plus surfer has shields. Surfer is also fast enough to react to supes at least and has superior offensive capabilities. As for T-VO, im not sure of how that works whether its an astral attack or whatever. If it is then i cud see surfer escaping it as he is very powerful in the astral palane. Surfer has also escaped from the soulgem so im not sure how that attack wud affect him.
Originally posted by fascistcrusadersuperman's strength feats on average are prob more impressive than Surfers
How is Superman faster or stronger than Norrin? They're around the same level if SS doesn't use the PC, if anything he's got an edge on Supes without it.
also, Superman regularly speedblitzes his enemies, I've almost never seen Surfer ever blitz an opponent