Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes but you were implying that if he didn't have the rockets he would not have been able to do it.

What I am saying is that this is not an instance of him using just strength to do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well,you can think Superman can or cant replicate this feat. Its speculation either way. Hulk has survived it. So,we dont have to speculate whether or not Hulk can do it because he has.

Supes has never destroyed a planet on panel anyways.

Well since the discussion is significantly about density now we could examine that. Didn't Superman take a Supernova? How many millions of times more density must something have to endure that than to endure a really fast space rock.

Originally posted by resolution
Well since the discussion is significantly about density now we could examine that. Didn't Superman take a Supernova? How many millions of times more density must something have to endure that than to endure a really fast space rock.

A supernova is an explosion of solar energy. What is Supes' power source? Ah. Yeah.

Originally posted by Enyalus
A supernova is an explosion of solar energy. What is Supes' power source? Ah. Yeah.

Uh, I was talking about the kinetic force, not the heat. The "BOOM".

It has millions of times more force than a space rock.

Originally posted by resolution
Uh, I was talking about the kinetic force, not the heat. The "BOOM".

It has millions of times more force than a space rock.

Ah, very true. Though, the asteroid would have the far higher density and weight.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ah, very true. Though, the asteroid would have the far higher density and weight.

Well the question is which event requires a higher physical density from the one that is to endure it.

Originally posted by resolution
Well the question is which event requires a higher physical density from the one that is to endure it.

While I recall Supes surviving a nova before, I can't specifically remember the incident you're referencing. If it was a yellow sun going nova, though, the feat doesn't hold much weight.

It'd be like crediting Hulk with surviving a gamma bomb (which he has) - it just makes him stronger.

I am not sure what Superman's density has to do with fighting the Surfer, but the supernova also destroyed an inhabited planet that Superman was standing on; that means he survived the planet's explosion as well as the sun's.

He also survived being sandwiched between Apokolips and New Genesis.

Originally posted by resolution
Uh, I was talking about the kinetic force, not the heat. The "BOOM".

It has millions of times more force than a space rock.

Originally posted by resolution
Well since the discussion is significantly about density now we could examine that. Didn't Superman take a Supernova? How many millions of times more density must something have to endure that than to endure a really fast space rock.

Originally posted by resolution
No, that was only ONE stated reason it was needed. The other (as the scientist makes clear) was to attempt to create a total extent of impact capable of destroying the meteor.

"I still don't believe that his strength COMBINED with my anti-magnetic technology will be enough"

If one thing is being hurdled right into another thing, density will be a major factor.

Actually the ANTI MAGNETIC ROCKET SPRINGS, were there ONLY to get him to the asteroid. What u missed out when quoting from the scans was when Hulk said" I dont need this pop gun slowing me down" and dropped the antimagnetic weapon( which was to aid him in destorying the asteroid) and the scientist then said " How does he intend to destroy the asteroid when he gets there?". The anti magnetic rocket springs were supposed to get him there while the antimagnetic weapon as to aid him in destroying the asteroid. However, the hulk dropped the antimagnetic weapon which is why the scientist asked how he was going to destroy it. So the hulk actually dropped the part of the antimagnetic technology that was supposed to aid him in destroying it.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you guys know how to end it, or does goob have to send you guys white gloves in the mail with instructions to "slap yourselves" on them? 😉

I find the whole "Battlezone" idea idiotic. When I jump in to debate, it's for personal entertainment and at my leisure (usually when I'm killing time at work or logged on through my phone) which aren't the places where one keeps gigs of scans.

This is why you never see me in tourney's (In which I'm usually pm'd repeatedly be contestants for scans/info anyway) since I find it a monumental waste of time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
just debate him already....unless you foresee a loss....

😛

Psychology. I like. Is my E-rep on the line?

😂

Originally posted by Avlon
I find the whole "Battlezone" idea idiotic. When I jump in to debate, it's for personal entertainment and at my leisure (usually when I'm killing time at work or logged on through my phone) which aren't the places where one keeps gigs of scans.

This is why you never see me in tourney's (In which I'm usually pm'd repeatedly be contestants for scans/info anyway) since I find it a monumental waste of time.

Psychology. I like. Is my E-rep on the line?

😂

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's bull faeces

most well-informed posters know that Kal-El would beat Norrin Radd in a comic battle

only in KMC, where all of sudden Surfer does things he never does in his comic fights does he have a semblance of a chance

if both fight in character, Superman wins 8/10

Is this supposed to be a joke? On KMC nearly 70 percent of the poll is in surfers favor, hero chat is in his favor as well and u dont even want to know what CBR is like. While "in character" SS has shown transmutation and high end energy manip while in battle. He has also displayed ultra high levels of durabilitty and good use of forcefields. Him losing to supes 8/10 is just foolish.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see your point but why not give it a try. Goober is taunting all the Supes fans and not one of you is taking him up on his offer.

If Goober derives his self confidence from taunting people about comic books and setting up e-dates for debates on them, then so be it. I'll still be right here in the forums and will happily debate/taunt or PM at my leisure/pleasure.

I bet there would be a much more interesting take on these battlezones if say a paypal account were set up and members donated to a pot for the winner to keep.

After all, time isn't free, correct? A money where your mouth approach is far more appealing. 🙂 Some of our members for example can't afford comics (a sad state of affairs) and can't afford to give back to the industry in which they get their entertainment from at all. A take home pot would surely be nice for some people.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Actually the ANTI MAGNETIC ROCKET SPRINGS, were there ONLY to get him to the asteroid. What u missed out when quoting from the scans was when Hulk said" I dont need this pop gun slowing me down" and dropped the antimagnetic weapon( which was to aid him in destorying the asteroid) and the scientist then said " How does he intend to destroy the asteroid when he gets there?". The anti magnetic rocket springs were supposed to get him there while the antimagnetic weapon as to aid him in destroying the asteroid. However, the hulk dropped the antimagnetic weapon which is why the scientist asked how he was going to destroy it. So the hulk actually dropped the part of the antimagnetic technology that was supposed to aid him in destroying it.

I didn't miss that, i was never addressing that additional weapon.

Originally posted by Avlon
If Goober derives his self confidence from taunting people about comic books and setting up e-dates for debates on them, then so be it. I'll still be right here in the forums and will happily debate/taunt or PM at my leisure/pleasure.

I bet there would be a much more interesting take on these battlezones if say a paypal account were set up and members donated to a pot for the winner to keep.

After all, time isn't free, correct? A money where your mouth approach is far more appealing. 🙂 Some of our members for example can't afford comics (a sad state of affairs) and can't afford to give back to the industry in which they get their entertainment from at all. A take home pot would surely be nice for some people.

great idea about a cash prize

Originally posted by quanchi112
So,you want to talk about super novas now and forget all about this particular feat. Interesting. I made my point. Speculate till your hearts content about we discussed earlier.

No, i wanted to talk about principles of Physics (like density) which is exactly what you are discussing when you discuss physical force .

how much are you willing to lose? 😛

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Is this supposed to be a joke? On KMC nearly 70 percent of the poll is in surfers favor, hero chat is in his favor as well and u dont even want to know what CBR is like. While "in character" SS has shown transmutation and high end energy manip while in battle. He has also displayed ultra high levels of durabilitty and good use of forcefields. Him losing to supes 8/10 is just foolish.

Polls are meaningless as evidence. I once posted results from polls that said Goku would stalemate the living tribunal and other variously silly polls that I've found online.