Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by ultimatethor387 pages

Originally posted by resolution
The only thing you can infer here is that since they gave Hulk a laser gun they didn't believe the meteor could be destroyed by pure propulsion impact combined with the Hulk's strength, you cannot conclude that they believed that there was no propulsion impact.

So with that aside, Physics tells us there must be.

i should have stopped when you made that "big problem" argument. 😆

HE WAS ALREADY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE METEOR when he said that!

"but i have a bigger problem IN FRONT OF ME NOW"

"But not too big for the incredible Hulk"

"with a little help from experimental antimagnetic jet propelled fortified rocket springs".

Sigh. 🙁 Can u read? Or are u just purposely ignoring what I and what was said on panel said? Christ!. First u came in and purposely ignored part of the statements from the scientist and tried to selectively use it to create the myth that the scientist intended for the the for the rocket springs to play a major part in destroying the asteroid. 😬 lol.

After that u switched tactics and started trying to use hulk statements to prove that the rocket springs aided him considerably. Yet not only were u applying them the wrong way but you showed ur inability to read as well because even in those statements that u keep quoting, the hulk says" with a little help" 😱.

Then in ur above post u cement ur idiocy and comprehension deficiency by talking about me concluding that there was no propulsion impact. When the whole point my arguement was not to prove that their was NO propulsion impact but that the rocket springs did NOT aid him considerably in the actual destruction of the asteroid. Those who can read( u obviously cant) will see that this is in line with the scientist statements regarding the hulk and their equipment.

But really i shud have expected such foolishness after reading ur first post in which u tried to selctively apply on panel evidence.
🙄 What a joke.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Sigh. 🙁 Can u read? Or are u just purposely ignoring what I and what was said on panel said? Christ!. First u came in and purposely ignored part of the statements from the scientist and tried to selectively use it to create the myth that the scientist intended for the the for the rocket springs to play a major part in destroying the asteroid. 😬 lol.

After that u switched tactics and started trying to use hulk statements to prove that the rocket springs aided him considerably. Yet not only were u applying them the wrong way but you showed ur inability to read as well because even in those statements that u keep quoting, the hulk says" with a [B]little help" 😱.

Then in ur above post u cement ur idiocy and comprehension deficiency by talking about me concluding that there was no propulsion impact. When the whole point my arguement was not to prove that their was NO propulsion impact but that the rocket springs did NOT aid him considerably in the actual destruction of the asteroid. Those who can read( u obviously cant) will see that this is in line with the scientist statements regarding the hulk and their equipment.

But really i shud have expected such foolishness after reading ur first post in which u tried to selctively apply on panel evidence.
🙄 What a joke. [/B]

lol The personal stuff is clearly an indication that your argument broke down long ago. Talk about comprehension deficiency. please go read a Physics book.
THE LAST PANEL OF THE COMIC ENDED THIS DISCUSSION , hulk explains what happens , period. No way to run away from it.

Oh by the way, i never said that hulk's strength wasn't a factor. I have no irrational bias in this discussion for one character as you do. My first post threw Superman under the bus and gave it to Surfer. I am not even arguing that Hulk doen't have the capacity to be enraged to and beyond a Superman level of strength. So put your incredible Hulk pom poms down and started thinking. Also, start arguing like a man and put the childish insults to the side.

Originally posted by resolution
The personal stuff is an indication that your argument broke down long ago. Talk about comprehension deficiency? please go read a Physics book.
The last panel of the discussion ended this discussion, Hulk explains what happens, period.

Oh by the way, i never said that hulk's strength wasn't a factor. I have no irrational bias in this discussion for one character as you do. My first post threw Superman under the bus and gave it to Surfer. I am not even argueing aht hulk doen't have the capacity to be enraged to and beyond a Superman level of strength. So put your incredible Hulk pom pom's down and started thinking. Also, start arguing like a man and put the childish insults to the side.

More proof of comprehension deficiency. 🙁 Really u must be blind. The last panel did explain what happened The hulk explained that the rocket springs provided him with little help which is exactly what ive been saying from the beginning but obviously u didnt notice that. 😱 And please dont bring in physics when u obviously have a reading problem.

Irrational bias? Dude im not the one being selective and trying to take scientist staments out of context. Im not the one that failed( and is obviously still failing) to even understand the argument being put forth. Who the hell is talking about hulk and superman? What in the world are u talking about? I never once made any reference to superman in my posts because frankly he had absolutely nothing to do with them. I wasnt arguing that supes cudnt perform the feat or by performing the feat that hulk was stronger than supes. I simply decided to point out ur wrong interpretation of the feat. LOL arguing like a man? Man u were trying to be condescending in ur posts without even understanding what i was even trying to argue. 😆

The last panel of the book did end this discusiion. The rocket springs provided "little help" and thats exactly what ive been saying. Try to actually read It helps a whole lot 🙂

Originally posted by ultimatethor
More proof of comprehension deficiency. 🙁 Really u must be blind. The last panel did explain what happened The hulk explained that the rocket springs provided him with [B]little help which is exactly what ive been saying from the beginning but obviously u didnt notice that. 😱 And please dont bring in physics when u obviously have a reading problem.

Irrational bias? Dude im not the one being selective and trying to take scientist staments out of context. Im not the one that failed( and is obviously still failing) to even understand the argument being put forth. Who the hell is talking about hulk and superman? What in the world are u talking about? I never once made any reference to superman in my posts because frankly he had absolutely nothing to do with them. I wasnt arguing that supes cudnt perform the feat or by performing the feat that hulk was stronger than supes. I simply decided to point out ur wrong interpretation of the feat. LOL arguing like a man? Man u were trying to be condescending in ur posts without even understanding what i was even trying to argue. 😆

The last panel of the book did end this discusiion. The rocket springs provided "little help" and thats exactly what ive been saying. Try to actually read It helps a whole lot 🙂 [/B]

I indeed understand what your trying to argue, I did misunderstand as far as the superhero comparison was concerned (must have mistaken you for another poster, there, sorry). Now once you admit that propulsion IMPACT played a role you simultaneously admit that the Hulk's density also played a role. The Hulk's density is an attribute of Hulk, so it can also be factored into "his accomplishment", but it is distinct from his pure physical strength. That density could not have been harnessed without the technology, but Hulk still needed the density to get it done (If a normal man tried it he would obviously go splatt). That was my original point. The issue was never "did Hulk's attributes get it done", as least as far as my arguments are concerned, but rather, how much of it was pure physical strength.

a debate....within a debate?

Are Superman and Silver Surfer still in this thread?

since this thread is so long i really cant be bothered reading it all! but i do no that anyone who honestly thinks Superman can actually stand a chance against the Silver Surfer is seriously stupid!
what is supermans primary power? Strength! not only is Surfer physically stronger but with his powers, Supes does not going to stand a chance! jesus christ... what is he going to do????????? punch him?? Morons!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Scuzz2.0
since this thread is so long i really cant be bothered reading it all! but i do no that anyone who honestly thinks Superman can actually stand a chance against the Silver Surfer is seriously stupid!
what is supermans primary power? Strength! not only is Surfer physically stronger but with his powers, Supes does not going to stand a chance! jesus christ... what is he going to do????????? punch him?? Morons!!!!!!!!
Please keep it civil. Thanks.

ultimatethor and resolution, please get back to the thread topic. This has gone on long enough. Any more and it's a warning. Thanks.

Originally posted by Badabing
resolution, please get back to the thread topic.
But he's the resolution. How can you disagree? 😛

When did surfer get anywhere near as Strong As Superman?

Well, he's stronger than an enraged Hulk without amping, and physically stronger than Planet Hulk's Hulk, without even being connected to the PC. I think a lot of people are using ABC logic to determine that, therefore, he's stronger than Supes.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, he's stronger than an enraged Hulk without amping, and physically stronger than Planet Hulk's Hulk,
so's Superman.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, he's stronger than an enraged Hulk without amping, and physically stronger than Planet Hulk's Hulk, without even being connected to the PC. I think a lot of people are using ABC logic to determine that, therefore, he's stronger than Supes.

Superman is stronger than any and every other top tier in the history of comics. It's one of the main reasons he's in the top tier catagory.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman is stronger than any and every other top tier in the history of comics. It's one of the main reasons he's in the top tier catagory.

Superman is the definition of top tier.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman is stronger than any and every other top tier in the history of comics. It's one of the main reasons he's in the top tier catagory.

*shrugs* I'm presenting you the case, not arguing it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
When did surfer get anywhere near as Strong As Superman?
Now you bring this Fvck sh1t up? 244 pages later? It might of been somewhere and explained already. SS himself can amp his strength to even surpass Superman, strength comparing to cosmic power is second rate.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Now you bring this Fvck sh1t up? 244 pages later? It might of been somewhere and explained already. SS himself can amp his strength to even surpass Superman, strength comparing to cosmic power is second rate.

Scan of amping beyond supes strength ?

Originally posted by vansonbee
Now you bring this Fvck sh1t up? 244 pages later? It might of been somewhere and explained already. SS himself can amp his strength to even surpass Superman, strength comparing to cosmic power is second rate.

I've never seen Surfer amp himself near Superman's Class 110*Quintillions range. Not even close. Scan?

How is Superman going to hurt Surfer?

Originally posted by Badabing
Please keep it civil. Thanks.

ultimatethor and resolution, please get back to the thread topic. This has gone on long enough. Any more and it's a warning. Thanks.

lol i'll be glad to, that's the subject i started on.