Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by fangirl101387 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Supes is airborn AND Green Lantern's helping... NOT A LEGITIMATE STRENGTH FEAT FOR SUPES.
No. It's no different than Thor standing on a shop towing the midgard serpent. Unless you think the ship helped thor with it's flight power. Flight does not provide any strength boost in dc. Unless you can prove other wise. show me some with no super strength pulling or carrying something that shouldn't be able to because they are flying.

...why is this still being debated

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you really want go down this road of low showings.

You dont want me harping on low showings.

I like going down that road, it balances it out because so many seem to think Supes is always just going around wrecking any and everything.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's no different than Thor standing on a shop towing the midgard serpent. Unless you think the ship helped thor with it's flight power. Flight does not provide any strength boost in dc. Unless you can prove other wise. show me some with no super strength pulling or carrying something that shouldn't be able to because they are flying.

You mean like this instance where Superman's super strength has been nullified...
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43617yl7.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43618cr4.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean like this instance where Superman's super strength has been nullified...
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43617yl7.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43618cr4.jpg

And exactly what is he doing in this scene that requires superstrength? nothing. At all. Now if you'd have shown him lifting something that should have taken superstrength while his strength was nullified, you may have had a point. as it stands, he did lift half of a book with infinite pages. with no flight strength.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And exactly what is he doing in this scene that requires superstrength? nothing. At all. Now if you'd have shown him lifting something that should have taken superstrength while his strength was nullified, you may have had a point.

He's pulling that Base. And what what were your exact words minutes ago...

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's no different than Thor standing on a shop towing the midgard serpent. Unless you think the ship helped thor with it's flight power. Flight does not provide any strength boost in dc. Unless you can prove other wise. show me some with no super strength pulling or carrying something that shouldn't be able to because they are flying.

Besides, did you not read the first panel of the second scan...
"And as I discovered some time ago, when I LIFT an object while I'm flying, there's something other than strength at work."

Originally posted by fangirl101
as it stands, he did lift half of a book with infinite pages. with no flight strength.

A one time showing that far exceeds anything else we've seen from him. Thus, just as much SvFL as Hulk's sphere's feat and Herc and Thor repairing a rip in space by punching each other's hands from opposite sides.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
...why is this still being debated

I like going down that road, it balances it out because so many seem to think Supes is always just going around wrecking any and everything.

Yeah,I should go down it. I dont need to unless this lowballing keeps up.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's pulling that Base. And what what were your exact words minutes ago...

Besides, did you not read the first panel of the second scan...
"And as I discovered some time ago, when I LIFT an object while I'm flying, there's something other than strength at work."

A one time showing that far exceeds anything else we've seen from him. Thus, just as much SvFL as Hulk's sphere's feat and Herc and Thor repairing a rip in space by punching each other's hands from opposite sides.


No I"m sorry mister great debator. The base isn't heavy. I'm needing to see him LIFT something that would require super Strength. Something at least twice his body weight Even then, A strong normal man can do that for a time. You have nothing. And there is also something else you forget, when you lift something that weights infinity, even half of it, is still infinity. If Superman were using say, half of his strength from flight to lift his half of the spectre, his muscles would still have been lifting a quarter of infinity, which is STILL infinity. which means the book feat doesn't stand alone.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean like this instance where Superman's super strength has been nullified...
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43617yl7.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43618cr4.jpg
i've been saying that for some time now.

superman's strength is supplemented with levitation since some things he are too heavy or un-liftable for him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i've been saying that for some time now.

superman's strength is supplemented with levitation since some things he are too heavy or un-liftable for him.


Then how did he pick up the book with infinite pages? He wasn't flying. And he knew that he could pick it up. It's not like he was going to try and see if he could.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Then how did he pick up the book with infinite pages? He wasn't flying. And he knew that he could pick it u. It's not like he was going to try and see if he could.
not to be presumptuous but, can you show the scan of that please? that feat screams of writer retardation.

Ugh. Okay - Lifting the Spectre? He had Wonder Woman's help and GL's help.

Lifting that book with infinite pages? He had Captain Marvel's help. Invalid.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ugh. Okay - Lifting the Spectre? He had Wonder Woman's help and GL's help.

Lifting that book with infinite pages? He had Captain Marvel's help. Invalid.

Really? So, she is lying and taking the feat out of context.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No I"m sorry mister great debator. The base isn't heavy. I'm needing to see him LIFT something that would require super Strength. Something at least twice his body weight Even then, A strong normal man can do that for a time. You have nothing.

Are you trying to come off sounding like a moron or something? The Base of Operations for the people who captured Supes was inside a huge ass flying saucer and THAT'S what Supes was pulling. You want to see more of it? Here's the next two pages...
[img=http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3629/advsupes43619sq8.th.jpg]
[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2541/advsupes43620up6.th.jpg]

If you're wanting a better view of the inside, here's Supes checking the place out with X-Ray vision and commenting on how huge the place is...

Originally posted by fangirl101
And there is also something else you forget, when you lift something that weights infinity, even half of it, is still infinity. If Superman were using say, half of his strength from flight to lift his half of the spectre, his muscles would still have been lifting a quarter of infinity, which is STILL infinity. which means the book feat doesn't stand alone.

Except that Supes HAD to have help accomplishing the feat, thus no matter what real world logic might otherwise tell us, he's obviously unable to lift a book with an infinite number of pages on his own.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Really? So, she is lying and taking the feat out of context.

Glossing over the facts. Lying is a strong word, and fangirl is too cool for that. 😉

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are you trying to come off sounding like a moron or something? The Base of Operations for the people who captured Supes was inside a huge ass flying saucer and THAT'S what Supes was pulling. You want to see more of it? Here's the next two pages...
[img=http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3629/advsupes43619sq8.th.jpg]
[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2541/advsupes43620up6.th.jpg]

If you're wanting a better view of the inside, here's Supes checking the place out with X-Ray vision and commenting on how huge the place is...

Except that Supes HAD to have help accomplishing the feat, thus no matter what real world logic might otherwise tell us, he's obviously unable to lift a book with an infinite number of pages on his own.


First off, I thought you were talking about the contraption he was in. And 2ndly, he had trouble lifting that base with his flight alone. So how can his flight contribute anything signifigant when we've already seen the upper limit of his "flight" lifting power.

And he still lifted a book with infinite pages. The feat stands as does his spectre feat. Two very similiar feats. he may have needed help from two very similiar beings, but I can't think of any lifting feats more impressive. even if they are with someone else's help.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Glossing over the facts. Lying is a strong word, and fangirl is too cool for that. 😉
Well,you have your opinion and I have mine.

Shared feat thus invalid.

Originally posted by fangirl101
First off, I thought you were talking about the contraption he was in. And 2ndly, he had trouble lifting that base with his flight alone. So how can his flight contribute anything signifigant when we've already seen the upper limit of his "flight" lifting power.

Of course he had trouble back then, but Supes's powers have increased across the board from that period. Example, back then Supes couldn't even hit lightspeed while flying and now he can hit multiples of it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And he still lifted a book with infinite pages. The feat stands as does his spectre feat. Two very similiar feats. he may have needed help from two very similiar beings, but I can't think of any lifting feats more impressive. even if they are with someone else's help.

So that ONE valid unquantifiable feat of pure strength to his credit. Hence, SvFL. The Spectre feat doesn't count because it wasn't a feat of pure strength.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course he had trouble back then, but Supes's powers have increased across the board from that period. Example, back then Supes couldn't even hit lightspeed while flying and now he can hit multiples of it.

So that ONE valid unquantifiable feat of pure strength to his credit. Hence, SvFL. The Spectre feat doesn't count because it wasn't a feat of pure strength.


Actually, you argue against your self. Back Then, Superman could still lift trillions of tons. So if with his fight power, he barely, BARELY, pulls or pushes that base, then how does that even equal a tenth of his over all lifting power? It doesn't. Using his flight power as a crutch for his lifting feats goes out the window when using common sense.