Originally posted by fangirl101
I accept that you haven't proven your case in a regular debate. What era is the scan from where it says Superman's powers are asisted with flight.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I have proven my case beyond a shadow of a doubt. Come on lets ask the Mods to judge a Battlezone and they can decide who's being more reasonable. I mean they ARE the best judges as to which case is more reasonable by forum rules and we could keep this circular debate up forever. What do you say?
Originally posted by fangirl101
Imma need you to get something better to do with your time than get into the battle zone.
Originally posted by fangirl101
you didn't prove jack to me.
Originally posted by fangirl101
The scan you are using for flight assisted strength looks like byrne era. And I remember him trying to pull something like that. Pull a modern explaination of his powers working that way and you have a point. Until then, you are just blowing smoke.
Originally posted by darthgoober
It's as good a thing to do as a standard debate. Better in fact because it gives circular debates a definite end and outcome. Of course if that's what you're scared of...Which just goes to show that you can't reason with unreasonable people. I'm suggesting a BZ because I have faith that the judges WILL be reasonable people who'll tell you in no uncertain terms that you're full of shit. You obviously have faith in the same thing and that's why you're trying to downplay the system.
No because MY case is backed by actual evidence. Your case is basically "Well that was a long time ago so it MIGHT not be true anymore. I don't have any evidence that remotely suggest it, but the possibility is all I have to cling to.". Find a modern era scan that specifically says that Supes's lifting feats while flying are feats of pure physical strength or you don't even have smoke to blow...
Originally posted by fangirl101
Nah. Byrne specifically depowered Superman and changed the way his powers worked. until next time. try to find something modern.
Previous concession accepted...
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's no different than Thor standing on a shop towing the midgard serpent. Unless you think the ship helped thor with it's flight power. Flight does not provide any strength boost in dc. Unless you can prove other wise. show me some with no super strength pulling or carrying something that shouldn't be able to because they are flying.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And exactly what is he doing in this scene that requires superstrength? nothing. At all. Now if you'd have shown him lifting something that should have taken superstrength while his strength was nullified, you may have had a point. as it stands, he did lift half of a book with infinite pages. with no flight strength.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean like this instance where Superman's super strength has been nullified...
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advsupes43617yl7.jpg
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thor lifted the jormungand (midgard serpent) prior to the infamous boat pulling feat, he only wanted to fish it out into space so he could slay it... but the line was cut.
utgard-loki, a frost giant challenged thor to lift his cat off the ground. thor thinking it would be a simple feat accepted and started to lift it up.
he struggled to lift the seemingly small cat at first, but when he put more into it, he managed to get the cat's arm up into the air.
that cat was actually the midgard sepent in disguise using one of it's magical spells. in actuality thor managed to lift an incredible amount of weight off the ground. jomungand MUST weigh at least several trillion tons of dead weight, minimum.
Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're scared to face judgement and you've given up on attempting to sound like anything other than an unreasonable moron... so be it.Previous concession accepted...
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Originally posted by fangirl101
You are using Byrne era explaination of supers powers when it is widely known that byrne depowered supers and changed his powers. So excuse me if I dont' fall into your game. Byrne Superman=Fail.
"Well that was a long time ago so it MIGHT not be true anymore. I don't have any evidence that remotely suggest it, but the possibility is all I have to cling to."
Just remember that my challenge stands if you ever muster the courage to accept. From now on when you're posting some nonsense about Supes's strength I'll post this smiley...
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...to remind you and everyone else that the argument can be settled at any time with a Battlezone match. All we're waiting on is you to work up the nerve.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Translation..."Well that was a long time ago so it MIGHT not be true anymore. I don't have any evidence that remotely suggest it, but the possibility is all I have to cling to."
Just remember that my challenge stands if you ever muster the courage to accept. From now on when you're posting some nonsense about Supes's strength I'll post this smiley...
😖mart:
...to remind you and everyone else that the argument can be settled at any time with a Battlezone match. All we're waiting on is you to work up the nerve.
The argument has been settlted, supes has moved moons and planetoids and the gears for a solar system sized device....i dont even know what u r trying to say at this point.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
The argument has been settlted, supes has moved moons and planetoids and the gears for a solar system sized device....i dont even know what u r trying to say at this point.
Originally posted by Starscream Mlol where did you get running from? supe's flight is based on generation of anti-gravitons or levitation through tactical tk or whatever, it supplants the weight of things too heavy or unwieldy for him to lift/move.
flying doesn't diminish his strength featsif I'm lifting weights while running, I'm still lifting weights
for instance, the scan of him tossing back the spaceship was in orbit, no ground friction for him to push against to reverse the motion of the vehicle *drum roll* his flight was pushing against it anchoring him in free space allowing him to move the object.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol where did you get running from? supe's flight is based on generation of anti-gravitons or levitation through tactical tk or whatever, it supplants the weight of things too heavy or unwieldy for him to lift.for instance, the scan of him tossing back the spaceship was in orbit, no ground friction for him to push against to reverse the motion of the vehicle *drum roll* his flight was pushing against it anchoring him in free space allowing him to move the object.
magic breaks laws of physics, thats just what it does. if the book was not dripping with magic, it would be a black hole superman and cap. marvel would be attempting to lift.
then again, the weight of the book isn't even remotely quantifiable, i mean, shouldn't it take an infinite amount of superheroes to lift it up then?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
magic breaks laws of physics, thats just what it does. if the book was not dripping with magic, it would be a black hole superman and cap. marvel would be attempting to lift.then again, the weight of the book isn't even remotely quantifiable, i mean, shouldn't it take an infinite amount of superheroes to lift it up then?
