Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by psycho gundam387 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Ultraman picked it up by himself. But Superman and Cap were trying to be careful with it. Ultraman didn't give a care.
but then superman beat ultraman didn't he? see how weird that gets.

Really that infinite pages thing is completely unquantifiable. Considering that it was magical in nature and we have no idea how much it weighed. Infinite pages=/= infinite weight( if there anything like that) especially when the book was magical in nature.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Volume has nothing to do with it - the Serpent was large enough to coil around the Earth. The mass of the Earth and of the Serpent is equal. But since you insist on brining real world physics into play:

The Midgard Serpent is not the same Mass as the Earth (even if we suspend our belief and ignore that it's weight didn't even have an effect on the Earth's crust). It's also nowhere nowhere near the size of the Earth.

It's body is long enough that it can coil around the earth through a couple of revolutions. If it's composed of flesh packed in as mostly muscle like most snakes, that would also mean it's density is far less than Earth's and when you consider that it's volume is so much less than Earth's that means it's mass would only be a fraction of Earth.

The rest of your points were quite dense. You can't compare the magic of the Midgard Serpent with that of the Monitor's book, the Monitors book is just infinite pages occupying one space maybe it works like a black hole but judging from it's origins it's obviously more than just a book.

Originally posted by Enyalus
See, I can play this game all day. Deal with the feats as presented or face the same double standard.

Which double standards? The "magic" of the book of the monitors is nothing like the magic of the Midgard Serpent which is just a giant Serpent coiling around the Earth.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Wrong. AS Supes lifted 200 quintillion tons with one hand, meaning he could lift 400 quintillion tons with both. That is still less than the weight of the Earth, which weighs nearly 6.4 septillion tons. Furthermore, that was after a sundip. Stop slanting the facts. Seriously.

He lifted 200 quintillion tons with one hand with apparent ease, there's nothing that suggests his limit is 400 quintillion tons. That is a definitive number as opposed to a giant snake.

Ignoring the effect of flight on Superman's other planetoid moving feats, the book of the monitors apparently represents infinite mass in one space, still more impressive and more definitive than anything you've presented. The Spectre again, a mystical entity with apparent infinite mass, he lifted. What you got?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but then superman beat ultraman didn't he? see how weird that gets.

superman beat Ultraman with skill. Not power.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Really that infinite pages thing is completely unquantifiable. Considering that it was magical in nature and we have no idea how much it weighed. Infinite pages=/= infinite weight( if there anything like that) especially when the book was magical in nature.

anything to demean superman's feat. I suppose surfer's feat of channeling the crunch is not quantifiable either since the crunch killed primordial gods. there was nothing magical about the book. did you read the story? ug.

Originally posted by fangirl101
anything to demean superman's feat. I suppose surfer's feat of channeling the crunch is not quantifiable either since the crunch killed primordial gods. there was nothing magical about the book. did you read the story? ug.

How are surfers crunch feat and superman lifting feat even remotely comparable? U really do bring up the most stupid analogys And my bad i just assumed the book was magical because i cudnt think of any other way a book can have infinite pages. Regardless the feat is totally unqunatifiable.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but then superman beat ultraman didn't he? see how weird that gets.

Ultraman is Superman but with a criminal mind. They have the same degree of strength, Superman is just more skillful because he's had to face his villains more times and has faced more threats. Ultraman killed most of his rogues gallery years ago, and spends much of his time as a king over the anti matter Earth.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
How are surfers crunch feat and superman lifting feat even remotely comparable? U really do bring up the most stupid analogys And my bad i just assumed the book was magical because i cudnt think of any other way a book can have infinite pages. Regardless the feat is totally unqunatifiable.

How is Surfer's feat quantifiable. He gathered an unknown amount of energy.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
How are surfers crunch feat and superman lifting feat even remotely comparable? U really do bring up the most stupid analogys And my bad i just assumed the book was magical because i cudnt think of any other way a book can have infinite pages. Regardless the feat is totally unqunatifiable.

It is quantifiable. It had infinite pages. It was infinitely heavy.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It is quantifiable. It had infinite pages. It was infinitely heavy.

I don't know if it's quantifiable but it's a damn impressive strength feat regardless. The idea is that it's impressive.

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Originally posted by fangirl101
superman beat Ultraman with skill. Not power.
that was before the writers believed him stronger than the combined effort of superman and captain marvel it seems. at least it looks that way.

Originally posted by Allankles
How is Surfer's feat quantifiable. He gathered an unknown amount of energy.

Oh please dont be foolish. What was impressive in surfers feat was not the amount of energy( he gathered but rather the nature of the enrgy. From galactus statement we know that the crunch was extremely difficult to channel

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Oh please dont be foolish. What was impressive in surfers feat was not the amount of energy( he gathered but rather the nature of the enrgy. From galactus statement we know that the crunch was extremely difficult to channel

And it was impressive the nature of the book. It contained not only infinite pages, but infinite capacity. It filled thier heads with the story of the monitor's from the beginning of time. I

Originally posted by fangirl101
It is quantifiable. It had infinite pages. It was infinitely heavy.

Totally False.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Totally False.

becuz you say so. well I happen to own the book. No one had moved the book becuz it was too heavy. Now the reason ultraman may have picked it up after they moved it may have had to do with the book being partly read.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And it was impressive the nature of the book. It contained not only infinite pages, but infinite capacity. It filled thier heads with the story of the monitor's from the beginning of time. I

Its natural that Something wit infinite pages shud also have an infinite capacity. Its obvious that there was alot more to that book than just the physical. And considering that then it is most likely that infinite pages=/= to infinite weight. Until that distinction can be made the feat is unquantifiable.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Its natural that Something wit infinite pages shud also have an infinite capacity. Its obvious that there was alot more to that book than just the physical. And considering that then it is most likely that infinite pages=/= to infinite weight. Until that distinction can be made the feat is unquantifiable.

As is the feat of Thor moving the midgard serpent, Silver surfer channeling the crunch, Hulk clapping away a cosmos etc.

I find it silly that Superman has an uber feat and people are now calling it unquantifiable. We'll he's got two such feats to his credit altho shared. And fighting two beings who have the same kinda of feats on thier own. And it's just so funny that all the superman haters can hate on his obviously superior Strength. Hulk, nor Thor, nor silver surfer are as strong as superman. get over it.

Originally posted by fangirl101
As is the feat of Thor moving the midgard serpent, Silver surfer channeling the crunch, Hulk clapping away a cosmos etc.

Fail. I still wonder how u can be comparing strength feats to energy manip feats. U must be joking