Originally posted by OneDumbG0Iirc he was able to shut off Cables powers by resequencing his DNA and shutting down his mutant gene.
^ Maybe you didn't see the edit, but finding the specific frequency to throw Wonderman's ionic energies out of phase seems pretty much to be what you're asking for.Trying to think of more.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]No.
So no elucidation? Typical, as I suspect you're full of shit.
Whatever. Surfer effortlessly seeing radiation,
I wouldn't say Superman could do it either, and he sees radiation just fine. Or Radiation Man or even a Green Lantern who didn't already KNOW about Supes' weakness, despite GL's demonstrating scanning abilities on par (and, at times, beyond) what we've seen of the Surfer.
Unless he specifically shows such an ability, he doesn't have the ability. Tough titties if you want to extrapolate that because Surfer can blow up a tree he can blow up a planet because trees grow on planets.
manipulating it, finding specific frequencies to throw a radiation-powered foe out of phase, seeing how their powers work, seeing their histories... all effortlessly... doesn't cut it for you. Not surprised. I'm guessing Surfer scanning for and seeing the specific weakness in Unilord's makeup and exploiting it while getting overrun with his hordes wouldn't count either, because somehow... that's different.
It doesn't count because Uni-Lord doesn't count. The fact that you're bringing it up at all is LAUGHABLE.
Obviously, you want a scan of Surfer doing exactly the same thing he did with Gladiator (because somehow he wouldn't have simply used his Cosmic Awareness in that scene)
I want something that explicitly states what you're assuming, yeah.
Oh, the horror.
And yeah, you've totally got me, guy. I love Superman so much. I'm gay for Superman. I cover myself in his comic books and coloring books and stickers, riding the waves of euphoria.
OR, hey, wait, maybe I just think reasonable standards of debate are something worth arguing for, and that you're absolutely full of shit with an obvious agenda.
^ Gotta admit, that's funny as hell. 😄
LOL. At the scans. I wish ppl would read what they post before posting it.
"Looks like your Heat Vision must've upset some kinda delicate balance or something..."
LOL at toppling some rocks as even CLOSE to what Surfer's energy discharge can do.
I mean, I've heard or reaching... but DAMN. Superman fans sure take it to the next level.... 😮
I'm actually waiting for someone to toss in Super Singing or HV Ionization in here somewhere...
Surfer is the far superior of the two in terms of energy discharge, he's also far superior in tanking enery attacks, ESPECIALLY heat (as he casually sits in stars for fun and even at times draw energy from the heat of stars).
Originally posted by Uriel005
this puts a damper in the whole superior surfer fire power argument as in 616 I don't think surfer has done any universe imbalancing blasts.
Did you even READ those scans or did you just see "heat vision" and then skipped to the end?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Surfer is the far superior of the two in terms of energy discharge, he's also far superior in tanking enery attacks, ESPECIALLY heat (as he casually sits in stars for fun and even at times draw energy from the heat of stars).
Because Superman can't casually sit in front of stars as well... Am I right?
Originally posted by DesaadGive me a break. It's when he fights the Avengers and messes with Vision and then throws Wonderman out of his ionic phase. I don't have the scans, I don't have the comic, but it's not Infinity War where he fights Storm and Wonderman. So seriously, shut up, and read some comics instead of insinuating that I'm lying about it.
So no elucidation? Typical, as I suspect you're full of shit.
Originally posted by DesaadHe doesn't have the ability... even though he's sensed a foe's weakness and exploited it mid-battle, right.
I wouldn't say Superman could do it either, and he sees radiation just fine. Or Radiation Man or even a Green Lantern who didn't already KNOW about Supes' weakness, despite GL's demonstrating scanning abilities on par (and, at times, beyond) what we've seen of the Surfer.Unless he specifically shows such an ability, he doesn't have the ability. Tough titties if you want to extrapolate that because Surfer can blow up a tree he can blow up a planet because trees grow on planets.
It doesn't count because Uni-Lord doesn't count. The fact that you're bringing it up at all is LAUGHABLE.
I want something that explicitly states what you're assuming, yeah.
Oh, the horror.
Your demand of evidence is curious considering you're the one pumping up Green Lantern feats and pretending they can do "anything" with the ring based on inflated purple-prose statements. Yes. I believe your appeals for "evidence" are wholly sincere. Right.
Name me 5 characters in the Marvel Universe that are weakened by a specific irradiated rock. I don't even really care whether Surfer's actualyl met them or not. Because to my knowledge, Surfer's already done it to 1 of 2 (Gladiator, not Hyperion who he's never met). Apparently, Surfer has to do it to 2 of 2 for it to be legitimate. Or, apparently, since your appeals for evidence are both ham-fisted and hypocritical, Surfer has to do it to 10 of 2 for you to be convinced.
You can't stomach evidence of the first instance, i.e., Gladiator? Your problem. I decided to indulge you by providing evidence of the second instance supporting evidence of the first instance, and you can't stomach it, i.e., Wonderman, Uni-Lord, etc. Really? I'm supposed to sit here and waste my time thinking evidence of the third instance is supposed to convince you? This isn't about Surfer. This is you hating that Superman has such a convenient weakness to exploit. And I'm not going to waste my time pretending that this is an actual discussion about evidence. Discussion requires discourse, not bald-faced denial. Your charade is transparent.
Originally posted by DesaadYou said it. I'm just quoting it.
And yeah, you've totally got me, guy. I love Superman so much. I'm gay for Superman. I cover myself in his comic books and coloring books and stickers, riding the waves of euphoria.
Originally posted by dmillsSurfer understanding that Cable could have his newfound Jesus powers blocked and exploiting it in midbattle? You would think that is at least somewhat analagous. Somehow, someway, it completely isn't. Seriously, let's not waste our breath or effort.
Iirc he was able to shut off Cables powers by resequencing his DNA and shutting down his mutant gene.