Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by Mindset387 pages

He wasn't.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was it stated that Darkseid was weakened? Also, sneak attacking Surfer doesn't mean much.

Galactus attacked him just prior to that. Yeah, it doesn't but it gives us a measure how durable surfer is by default compared to superman.

I thought Superman survived the OE due to an edict that was passed. In character Superman has a good chance of winning this, but now if you Norrin had Orions mindset, Superman would likely die. Well that is if 616 Surfer was equal to Exiles Surfer in terms of the scope of his full power.

Originally posted by Stoic
In a straight slug it out Superman has Norrin beat. So if he can slip in from the start of the match, and drown the Surfer in punches he has a 90% chance of winning. On the other hand, If Norrin is able to drain him, or negate most of his power before it's lights out he would more than likely take this.

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Adding that Superman has a lot of experience fighting on those conditions

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus attacked him just prior to that. Yeah, it doesn't but it gives us a measure how durable surfer is by default compared to superman.

When has Superman ever been snuck attack by Darkseid Omegas?

Originally posted by carver9
When has Superman ever been snuck attack by Darkseid Omegas?

TBH I Don't think it matters much as "invulnerability" is a passive power in the case of Surfer AND We have been asked for no more crossovers.

Originally posted by Stoic
I thought Superman survived the OE due to an edict that was passed. In character Superman has a good chance of winning this, but now if you Norrin had Orions mindset, Superman would likely die. Well that is if 616 Surfer was equal to Exiles Surfer in terms of the scope of his full power.

That's just an internet myth.
Originally posted by carver9
When has Superman ever been snuck attack by Darkseid Omegas?

He's been never been hit by a weakened darkseid's Omega beams in the back. He's shrugged off three point blank omega beams from a full power darkseid though. One Omega beam stunned even H/P Doomsday.

Nothing was stated that Darkseid was weakened and Superman had time to brace for that attack...Surfer didn't get that luxury. Darkseid also have two types of blasts, the Omega Effect and the Omega blast. One is more powerful than the other. No telling which one he hit Superman with.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing was stated that Darkseid was weakened and Superman had time to brace for that attack...Surfer didn't get that luxury. Darkseid also have two types of blasts, the Omega Effect and the Omega blast. One is more powerful than the other. No telling which one he hit Superman with.

You think Darkseid shrugged off blast from galactus? Cool story bro.

One day you would be able to learn the difference between an energy attack and a physical attack.

Omega blast? Hahaha, you're still as ignorant as ever. Darkseid has two attacks, Omega beams and Omega Sanction. Omega beams are the one he uses to blast people with, omega sanction is for erasing people from existence like he did to batman. You tell me what he's using on superman there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You think Darkseid shrugged off blast from galactus? Cool story bro.

One day you would be able to learn the difference between an energy attack and a physical attack.

No one said he shrugged it off...what I am saying is, "there is no proof Darkseid blast that he hit Surfer with was weakened" and there isn't any proof besides ABHI proof.

Originally posted by carver9
No one said he shrugged it off...what I am saying is, "there is no proof Darkseid blast that he hit Surfer with was weakened" and there isn't any proof besides ABHI proof.

Darkseid's omega beams depend upon his health. Remember how his omega beams were weakened after doomsday nearly killed him and when he got healed and was at full power his omega beams returned at full power too? Oh wait, I forgot who I was talking to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid's omega beams depend upon his health. Remember how his omega beams were weakened after doomsday nearly killed him and when he got healed and was at full power his omega beams returned at full power too? Oh wait, I forgot who I was talking to.

IIRC, that wasnt the real Darkseid.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
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Adding that Superman has a lot of experience fighting on those conditions

Only 2,000 years of developing his Kryptonian Powers in constant combat.

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Originally posted by carver9
IIRC, that wasnt the real Darkseid.

It was. Its happened on other times too, omega beams depend upon his health and vice-versa.

Originally posted by Dolos
Only 2,000 years of developing his Kryptonian Powers in constant combat.

Yes, that qualifies as a lot of experience.

And nice trick with the sig, pretty clever

Originally posted by 753
I know. abhi is down with the consensus, he only says otherwise to keep things interesting in this forum
I agree. I don't even think he believes what he posts.

Originally posted by Mindset
He wasn't.
Exactly. Now just an attack weakens someone only when it benefits Superman's case against someone else despite it never being stated. What was stated was how weakened Galactus was from the get go in this arc.
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing was stated that Darkseid was weakened and Superman had time to brace for that attack...Surfer didn't get that luxury. Darkseid also have two types of blasts, the Omega Effect and the Omega blast. One is more powerful than the other. No telling which one he hit Superman with.
Galactus was weakened not Darkseid. Crossovers aren't allowed anyway.

Sad thing is...Galactus was weakened but he still tanked the Omegas but Thor is capable of damaging a fully powered Galactus. Wow.

Guys, I've already said to stop discussing the crossovers.

Didn't see it. I'm done.