I've been giving this some thought, and shouldn't Surfer be able to create a red sun right on top of the both of them(which would pretty much take Supes right out)? Think about it, Surfer created a black hole in Annihilation, and it seems to me that the power required to create a star should be far less than is required for the creation of a black hole, so Surfer should be able to do that kind of thing without to much trouble. What do you guys think?