Racism

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You misunderstand. Most all of the racism dish out to me has come from Whites. How does that make me a racist? It's true. It's definetely a fact in here (KMC).

Don't believe so? Go back (just) a few pages. And you'll see a slew and anti-black racist remarks coming at me from the White posters on here. Some are even non-white. But most are White.

Most of the racism that I’ve seen has come from that was directed toward me from blacks so by your logic that makes black racist over whites. The reason you see so much racism and bigotry toward you mostly because of your comments, many of the post here are in jest and to get your goat which it works very well against you.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You appreciate him cause he's a safe black. Not cause he's funny. Not cause i'm not. Not cause of humor or appreciation. With you it's purely racial Bardock, lol. It always is. As much as your deny it by saying what you say, all the time. Which is why i don't take you serious at all. I treat you as a joke.

Hey, look on the bright side: I think you're funny. (always)

My heart weeps.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Well it is a little hard to get racism from the same people in your race 😉

Most of the racism that I’ve seen has come from that was directed toward me from blacks so by your logic that makes black racist over whites. The reason you see so much racism and bigotry toward you mostly because of your comments, many of the post here are in jest and to get your goat which it works very well against you.

Ever heard of Black on Black racism. Fro example the type of racism some middle-class Black dish out towards lower class Blacks?

It's crazy visible. But I understand with you trying to protect your own by saying they're just (all) playing when they say the racial slurs they say yet I say it and i'm not. Saying they jokingly use racial slurs at me to get me mad, That's one of the lamest excuses ever and in and of itself and one used alot by Whites with hidden racism: I was just joking, or i'm sorry i didn't mean it. ex: kramer, imus, dog,.

Call it a double standard but the belief is that it's never funny when a White person says a joke about how racist they may be. And any n*gger jokes Whites make just automatically makes them racist and not funny. And they know this. But still use the cover of "it was a joke, dude..I'm sorry buddy".

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Ever heard of Black on Black racism. Fro example the type of racism some middle-class Black dish out towards lower class Blacks?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

It's crazy visible. But I understand with you trying to protect your own by saying they're just (all) playing when they say the racial slurs they say yet I say it and i'm not. Saying they jokingly use racial slurs at me to get me mad, That's one of the lamest excuses ever and in and of itself and one used alot by Whites with hidden racism: I was just joking, or i'm sorry i didn't mean it. ex: kramer, imus, dog,.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

Call it a double standard but the belief is that it's never funny when a White person says a joke about how racist they may be. And any n*gger jokes Whites make just automatically makes them racist and not funny. And they know this. But still use the cover of "it was a joke, dude..I'm sorry buddy".

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yes. That is my argument except i dont like the word act. When you're yourself you're not acting. But if there's something you need to tell your grandmother you tell her. Same thing with your friends. Both

I would talk just about anything with both. Hell i've even eaten at a table with my grand-parents and friends with no problems. Whether it's talk about politics religion or the latest flick. I'd engaged them all in the same way. Whether it's aggressive or not.

lol, if you are just going to lie there is no real reason of going forward with this.

You can honestly say that you don't, say, watch your tongue when it might be in your best interest to?

You are quite literally arguing that it is beneficial to be yourself even in situations where "being yourself" will have grossly negative consequences.

For instance, I say "God damn it" a lot, or "Jesus Christ". Were I to say these in front of my very religious grandparents (and it does slip every now and then) it would be insulting to them. Are you saying that it is better for me to insult my grandparents by being myself than to show them the necessary respect and not "bash" their religion?

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, if you are just going to lie there is no real reason of going forward with this.

You can honestly say that you don't, say, watch your tongue when it might be in your best interest to?

You are quite literally arguing that it is beneficial to be yourself even in situations where "being yourself" will have grossly negative consequences.

For instance, I say "God damn it" a lot, or "Jesus Christ". Were I to say these in front of my very religious grandparents (and it does slip every now and then) it would be insulting to them. Are you saying that it is better for me to insult my grandparents by being myself than to show them the necessary respect and not "bash" their religion?

Now i'm lying. So answering that question would've just been in vain. Nice.

But let's move forward. I do watch my tongue. (I'm not severely verbally graphic guy to begin with anyway) Of course you'd have to take into considerations the feeling of others. That doesn't mean act differently.

If i swore alot in front of my friends and not at all in front of my grandparents, how is that acting different. That's being unselfish and respectful. And that's fine.

I'm still me with or without the swears. Let me rephrase it. Be yourself 100% while taking others into consideration up until the point come where you'd have to compromise the self. Anything beyond that you'd either be acting false or you'd have to let go of said influence, or person. Even if it's a loved one. But never give up who you are, not even .1% just to receive love or feel wanted. If you can't receive it naturally than it's no good anyway.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Now i'm lying. So answering that question would've just been in vain. Nice.

But let's move forward. I do watch my tongue. (I'm not severely verbally graphic guy to begin with anyway) Of course you'd have to take into considerations the feeling of others. That doesn't mean act differently.

If i swore alot in front of my friends and not at all in front of my grandparents, how is that acting different. That's being unselfish and respectful. And that's fine.

I'm still me with or without the swears. Let me rephrase it. Be yourself 100% while taking others into consideration up until the point come where you'd have to compromise the self. Anything beyond that you'd either be acting false or you'd have to let go of said influence, or person. Even if it's a loved one. But never give up who you are, not even .1% just to receive love or feel wanted. If you can't receive it naturally than it's no good anyway.

maybe lying was the wrong term. You certainly aren't taking the question seriously, and are now speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

"Be yourself 100% while taking others into consideration up until the point come where you'd have to compromise the self. "

while being nearly oxymoronic, this phrase is pretty much what I am talking about. It is completely ambigious and so qualified that you can pretty much justify anything with it. You have essentially labeled "acting differently" as "being yourself".

Swears were the first thing off the top of my head. Do you really have trouble seeing a situation where you need to inhibit your normal response, because the inhibition is more beneficial to yourself?

Lets apply YOUR OWN logic to the idea of a person being in a job interview. being "unselfish and respectful" to the interviewer was what got someone labeled as a "safe black" by you. You must "take into considerations the feeling of [the interviewer]".

Basically, you don't get to say "be yourself" and then say "but when its inconvenient don't", as if it is proof of "being yourself". It is a complete non sequitur.

Originally posted by inimalist
maybe lying was the wrong term. You certainly aren't taking the question seriously, and are now speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

"Be yourself 100% while taking others into consideration up until the point come where you'd have to compromise the self. "

while being nearly oxymoronic, this phrase is pretty much what I am talking about. It is completely ambigious and so qualified that you can pretty much justify anything with it. You have essentially labeled "acting differently" as "being yourself".

Swears were the first thing off the top of my head. Do you really have trouble seeing a situation where you need to inhibit your normal response, because the inhibition is more beneficial to yourself?

Lets apply YOUR OWN logic to the idea of a person being in a job interview. being "unselfish and respectful" to the interviewer was what got someone labeled as a "safe black" by you. You must "take into considerations the feeling of [the interviewer]".

Basically, you don't get to say "be yourself" and then say "but when its inconvenient don't", as if it is proof of "being yourself". It is a complete non sequitur.

You've gotten it twisted. It's not as complicated as you sound.

Let me say it again. Be yourself. Never compromise yourself at any expense. No matter the cost or loss. But be considerate but only to where the self may be compromise. That's when you have 2 choices at that point. You can let yourself be compromised and act falsely. Or preserve the self and abandon being considerate even if it detaches said person/s or influence/s. Choosing the latter is wisest, imo. And i didn't see where it was non sequitur when what i've been saying is completely logical. How does it not make sense to you..?

And you're saying I'm saying basically "be yourself, but when it's inconvenient cease being yourself, don't? lol what?

I've been indicating the opposite.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I sound like you saying "I'm overpaid because i'm White". So you acknowledge White privilege?

But if so, is your being paid more cause of that, a possibility. Meaning could that be the reason why, then? And not because you're skilled. But because of race?

HAHA!! Dude....if logic bit you in the ass, you would mistake it for a zit.

If there were only WHITE people working there in the first place AND all of them are OLDER than me, why would I get paid more? WHITENESS has NOTHING to do with this scenario I just presented to you. NOTHING! WE ARE ALLLLLLLL WHHHHIIIIIITEEEE! Get it now?

My coworkers are mostly in their 30s to 40s. BTW, in the IT world, young people are discriminated against because those in charge don't think that young folk have the experience to make things work. Seriously, they mistake age for being immature and not being reliable...so in this setting, everything should be working against me.

I understand, now, why everyone is getting frustrated with you, you seem to just not get it and you always want to make things about racism and discrimination based on race.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Ever heard of Black on Black racism. Fro example the type of racism some middle-class Black dish out towards lower class Blacks?

It's crazy visible. But I understand with you trying to protect your own by saying they're just (all) playing when they say the racial slurs they say yet I say it and i'm not. Saying they jokingly use racial slurs at me to get me mad, That's one of the lamest excuses ever and in and of itself and one used alot by Whites with hidden racism: I was just joking, or i'm sorry i didn't mean it. ex: kramer, imus, dog,.

Call it a double standard but the belief is that it's never funny when a White person says a joke about how racist they may be. And any n*gger jokes Whites make just automatically makes them racist and not funny. And they know this. But still use the cover of "it was a joke, dude..I'm sorry buddy".

Dude just let it go....

I can argue for years about Homophobia....it would be a waste of time and energy. People know Racism is wrong. It doesn't help that you are trying to pin all whites as racist.

Stop blaming others for your problems. Take responsibility for your own life. If living in a racist town is making you miserable (which it clearly is) then leave the town, and live in a kinder area. There are plenty of places in the U.S. where you will be welcome.

Stop living in your little box, and see the world for the grander realm it really is.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Dude just let it go....

I can argue for years about Homophobia....it would be a waste of time and energy. People know Racism is wrong. It doesn't help that you are trying to pin all whites as racist.

Stop blaming others for your problems. Take responsibility for your own life. If living in a racist town is making you miserable (which it clearly is) then leave the town, and live in a kinder area. There are plenty of places in the U.S. where you will be welcome.

Stop living in your little box, and see the world for the grander realm it really is.

Yeah, what this guy said. Suck it up or ship out.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And you just talk alot of shit, period. And no, I do not spout anti-White rhetoric around or to other Whites cause that'd be racist. I do tell them about my tribulations if and when they ask if the time is right for it. Like I won't get into it if i'm at a party or something cause i'm not there to talk about depressive stuff but to have a good time. But i don't go around saying listen to me. But if i talk about racism and/or my experiences with it and someone White is around and/or gets offended, what can i say. If he doesn't like what i'm saying he can chose confront or avoid me. And it'd go on from there.

Listen, I don't hate White people. Or people with white skin. I've lost count with how many times i've said that. Why can't anyone accept that. It's true. I have no problems with White people. I have a problem with racist people.

For example, there are Colombians of African ancestry and of European ancestry. Both are Hispanic or Latino. Do you think i'd give them a pass, if they called me n*gger, just because they aren't white? Or even more so just cause they were Latino cause i am? No way!

I would be offended by both equally. It's not about skin color. It's the racist idea that irks me.

But you spout it in here... yeah. "Being yourself", you are.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
How am i making a racist blanket statement. I said that it's a general stereotype (which it is). I didn't say it or make that up.

The stereotype is that Whites are generally scared of Blacks to some degree especially when there are alot of Blacks around. You've never heard that before? It's an awful stereotype but it's one that exist nonetheless.

And I just said G.G. was a "safe black" cause he seemed to act like one, maybe it was the result he wanted but he sure got soemthing out of it when you (a white person) were agreeing with him saying he's intelligent and nice or whatever you said, cause I guess you felt comfortable with what he was saying. I forget what he said but something about all white people are nice and cool or I've never faced racism, i forget what he said but he said something naive that wasn't anti-white.

No, I don't think GrinningGoku is intelligent, rational and funny because of one thing he said, I think so based on his typical posts I've read.

Edit: This same logic applies to you, your typical post in the GDF are racial fueled, irrational and outright stupid. You're alright when you post in the movie forum though. That's the one place you seem to not bring in "race" to any and every issue, at least from the limited post I've seen of yours in there.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, what this guy said. Suck it up or ship out.

Or fight.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Or fight.

Or give yourself Cancer 🙄

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You've gotten it twisted. It's not as complicated as you sound.

it is not very complicated at all really.

you can a) be yourself or b) cave to social pressure

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Let me say it again. Be yourself. Never compromise yourself at any expense. No matter the cost or loss. But be considerate but only to where the self may be compromise.

so insult the grandmother, lose the job, and be socially ostrascized for simply not being willing to cave to the most basic of social conduct?

really, you can't come up with a situation where it is better to chill than to be your aggressive self?

I agree with your pro-individual stance, but you are really just not taking this seriously.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Or fight.

that could be an option as well.....buuuut...fight who? who is discriminating against YOU!!! just you!!!??? Who? If you find that person, take them to court and sue their ass...that is how the "black man" should be doing it now days.

Originally posted by dadudemon
that could be an option as well.....buuuut...fight who? who is discriminating against YOU!!! just you!!!??? Who? If you find that person, take them to court and sue their ass...that is how the "black man" should be doing it now days.

Ask him about the time he was denied employment, because the interviewer was a "white man". Now, the "white man" didn't say anything racist, but FoTN knows he was thinking "ngger" all the time and that's why he didn't get the job. Obviously, he's right, because it certainly couldn't be anything else.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I'm not pissed off. Your the one who lost in here here when i made that gay joke and you came at me seriously. "And Your A ******!!!!" Your Lips are Big over the keyboard!!!" or w/e you said.

lol, I just pictured you pulling out your hair and hysterically yelling at the screen while typing that statement.

Stop getting so fascinated maybe.

You're right. I "lost" "it". I guess that's one small victory for all the downtrodden minorities in this country.

As for coming at you seriously, yeah, I think you're a piece of garbage. But nothing you said yesterday brought that out. I've thought that since the first time you opened your mouth and poured out all that paranoid crap. I've called you out at least 3 or 4 times in this thread, and you've not responded. Likely because you realize somewhere that your perspective on everyone else is kinda pathetic and paranoid.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Or give yourself Cancer 🙄

I'd fight that, too. Always fight.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I'd fight that, too. Always fight.

Fighting isn't always the answer.

Maybe you should have been born in a different age...maybe as an underling to Ghengis Khan. You might have been useful back then.