Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No it's about a sense or righteous indingnation.If I were to label you a "****** Mudbaby" you would of course deny that you fit with the stereotypes that are implied. Of course thats just black guilt.
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Melanin doesn't come from "mud", so that doesn't fit.
Justifying a racist stereotype is indicative of a racist, that fits.😐
Originally posted by 2damnloudWhere did I ever justify the use of the stereotype?
If a person justifies the "Mammy" sterotype being used where it doesn't fit, why is not okay to call them racist??
Mammy Twoshoes is dead. they removed all occurences of her and no longer show her. She's not being used anymore. Why should you be bothered by a ghost of the past that was killed on the grounds of it being racist?
Originally posted by 2damnloudSo it goes one way.. but not the other?
Melanin doesn't come from "mud", so that doesn't fit.Justifying a racist stereotype is indicative of a racist, that fits.😐
Wow, there's a double standard for you.
Way to not understand again.. not surprising that this is you after all.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Melanin doesn't come from "mud", so that doesn't fit.Justifying a racist stereotype is indicative of a racist, that fits.😐
Yep, black guilt. You just can accept who you are so you feel a pathalogical need to defend yourself against nonexistant racism.
Then again since I'm a normal well adjusted person I can figure out that you're probably just a fuktard as I know plenty of black people who act nothing like you.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Do you know what racism is?By saying that Whites are racist. you have made a racist statement.
You have grouped together the white race and given them a negative label.
Because for the life of me I can't figure out why I think that discrimination and hatred based on skin color is bad.
You grouped Black Women in with the negative term "Mammy".😐
"Mammy" is now indicative of a Black women.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yep, black guilt. You just can accept who you are so you feel a pathalogical need to defend yourself against nonexistant racism.Then again since I'm a normal well adjusted person I can figure out that you're probably just a fuktard as I know plenty of black people who act nothing like you.
You have nothing to debate😐
Your guilt shows in the name-calling.
Move along.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
If a person justifies the "Mammy" sterotype being used where it doesn't fit, why is not okay to call them racist??
Because they don't necessarily mean it in a racist manner. Maybe they just misjudged the situation?
Originally posted by 2damnloudNow, I don't mind being called a racist really, cause niggers and spics are filthy so their word really doesn't count, but I'm just not racist.
No.As you exemplify by going to the nth degree to make something that is racist not racist, you try to escape the feeling of being branded a "racist".
It's about feeling a sense of "guilt".
Originally posted by 2damnloudYou dumb****.
You grouped Black Women in with the negative term "Mammy".😐"Mammy" is now indicative of a Black women.
It's obvious you're not clicking on any links.
This is Mammy Twoshoes. That's the name of the ****ing character
THAT is the character we've been talking about.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Did you miss this part:"This is also why Whites stuggle hard to escape that collective guilt of being racist"
Whites are racist?
I did not say that. Why are you trying to draw my attention to it? I have not said a word about whites being racist. Different people are racist - what race that are is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Okay that was probably uncalled for. But the things you mentioned don't sound like bad things to me. The "Black businesses" thing is simply capitalism.They failed not because they were black and the others were white, they failed because the consumers decided to go elsewhere. and I doubt that all businesses nowaday are owned by white people anyway.The black colleges thing was also a matter of choice of the people. You even said that no one wanted to go. Why do you suppose that is?
And being allowed to live with white people, doesn't sound so bad, it also allowed white people to live with black people. Some White guys found black chicks and are happy with them and some black guys found white chicks and are happy with them. If it makes people happy why was it wrong?
You missed my point entirely it seems.
"Integration" and "equality" are radically different themes.
Equality is accepting another person as an equal.
Integration is just letting them in.
The mindset of black people is the main concern and why things turned out as they did in the next few decades.
HBCUs were, at the very least on par at the time, with state universities. Integration skews this fact in the mindset of black people (Now I am not out to say white people spread the word that HBCUs were inferior. I am saying that black people did it amongst themselves) because they were unable to even touch a white man's fountain, step into a white man's diner, and so on. Everything white people had was better, why not the schools?
Same contrast for businesses.
Same with neighborhoods, hence the lack of community among the black populus these days (it took a while to get as bad as it has gotten but yea). Now we can live with white people who's ground we could not even walk on before! It was the farce that black people told one another and the mentality that continues today.
I'm not calling out white people. I have not one time said "white people did to this all blacks!" Review the previous posts if you feel like it. YOU HAVE SAID THOSE THINGS AND MADE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS. It is far more complex than just race and simple economics.
As I wrote a while ago: The past explains the present, the present foreshadows the future.
Originally posted by chithappensI'm calling your attention to it so you understand my analsyis of it.
I did not say that. Why are you trying to draw my attention to it? I have not said a word about whites being racist. Different people are racist - what race that are is irrelevant.
Originally posted by chithappensI personally don't think they are.
You missed my point entirely it seems."Integration" and "equality" are radically different themes.
Originally posted by chithappensand integration was the first step to equality.
Equality is accepting another person as an equal.Integration is just letting them in.
Its sort of like letting an animal get used to your presence before they warm up to you. No different with the human animal. It was REALLY rocky at first when they got rid of segrigation. but I beleive things have improved. They're not 100% yet as you still have somepeople refusing to let go of the past. which is why there are people who still don't accept other races for what they are: a group of individuals.
Originally posted by chithappensYeah, a lure of the forbidden, the grass is greener on the other side sort of thing.
The mindset of black people is the main concern and why things turned out as they did in the next few decades.HBCUs were, at the very least on par at the time, with state universities. Integration skews this fact in the mindset of black people (Now I am not out to say white people spread the word that HBCUs were inferior. I am saying that black people did it amongst themselves) because they were unable to even touch a white man's fountain, step into a white man's diner, and so on. Everything white people had was better, why not the schools?
Originally posted by chithappensHmm.. thats a good point really...
Same contrast for businesses.
Originally posted by chithappensWell I hope for equality. I get tired of all this racial tension. Buncha immature babies.
Same with neighborhoods, hence the lack of community among the black populus these days (it took a while to get as bad as it has gotten but yea). Now we can live with white people who's ground we could not even walk on before! It was the farce that black people told one another and the mentality that continues today.
Originally posted by chithappensNo the attacks weren't directed at you. You simply defended an attack on a person who said "Most whites are racist". and was then trying to justify their own racsim. Still are from the looks of it.
I'm not calling out white people. I have not one time said "white people did to this all blacks!" Review the previous posts if you feel like it. YOU HAVE SAID THOSE THINGS AND MADE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS. It is far more complex than just race and simple economics.
Originally posted by chithappensYeah.I want the future to be different from the past. But I grew up with people of all different colors, nationalitys and cultures. Its how I got to learn a little bit about alot of different things. especially talking to the missionaries that live here who got to travel to other parts of the world.
As I wrote a while ago: The past explains the present, the present foreshadows the future.
Originally posted by 2damnloudOh I get it SC,, its his usual troll tactic. remember when he posted the witless article back in the hudlin thread and you said you skimmedit?
Nope, thats not what I'm talking about. 🙄I'm talking about the article on "whitness".
Dumb**** here is going to randomly and out of context mention that against you in order to ignore dodge your points.