Originally posted by Schecter
correction: factual plagrism. kthx
What one earth are you talking about? I showed you the link were he got the work from. 😕
Please explain how somebody who has already given the link to a piece of work which you said he plagrised is trying to plagrise.
Originally posted by Schecter
indeed. im surprised he's not acting as apologist-for-hire for fotn as well
What do you mean indeed? He mentioned FOTN not 2damn, theres no indeed about it.
Originally posted by chithappens
Racism is something given to the masses to make them bicker. The term race was actually not even used until sometime around 1750 in Germany (****, can't remember the city or institution; can someone help me out?) A while ago I explained how race can affect people in similar situations not even notice the hell is going on; black people hating hispanics now for taking jobs for lower wages (although blacks have similar issues that could be worked out, and so on) is a good current example.It is not Caucasians and their lying ways. It is the fact those people who dominated everyone else militarily lied and happened to be Caucasians. Another example I used earlier was with Xeres in 300 and he said he would wipe out the Spartans from history - you can do that sort of shit when you win a war. Certainly you can do it before electornic media.
I'm not saying all white people are liars. I'm saying that the world is dominated by certain Europeans who want the world to believe they were the origin for everything while everyone else is given credit for nothing other than pottery and planting. Another early example was:
Not all whites. "The system." "The man." Whatever we wanna coin the shit, controls the information we get in bulk. Individual sources offer "correct" facts.
If this still seems racist, I'm sorry. Not much I can do about that 😆
Groovy, yet the negativity seen on these boards is against one specific group of people. Go figure.
Again, blaming people for what their ancestors did; does that sound right. Let's just say my greatx5 grandfather was a Spanish slave-boat captain; he traded and sometimes killed Africans for profit... Now, what does that have to do with me in 2007? You do bring up a good point about European conquest, read or watch the book or movie "Guns, Germs & Steel. I'd think you'd enjoy it.
Where is the huge conspiracy? I have yet to hear "Europeans did everything of value", I don't think even Hitler went that far; and he was a true supremacist.
Cut the Plagarism crap. I Posted that link a few times.
If some of the people who saw me originally post it would have read it, instead of looking at the title and becoming instantly offended, then this wouldn't be an issue.
Symmetric_Chaos and Creshwhatever saw me post it and italicize the excerpt, yet they said nothing.
I have no reason to plagarize anything.
The accusations are a mere smokescreen.😐
Here's the link http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/Whitenesstalk.html
The Author.
http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/
Will you read it now?? Probably not.doped
Originally posted by Robtard
Groovy, yet the negativity seen on these boards is against one specific group of people. Go figure.Again, blaming people for what their ancestors did; does that sound right. Let's just say my greatx5 grandfather was a Spanish slave-boat captain; he traded and sometimes killed Africans for profit... Now, what does that have to do with me in 2007? You do bring up a good point about European conquest, read or watch the book or movie "Guns, Germs & Steel. I'd think you'd enjoy it.
Where is the huge conspiracy? I have yet to hear "Europeans did everything of value", I don't think even Hitler went that far; and he was a true supremacist.
Gregory Jay covers this.
For white people, race functions as a large ensemble of practices and rules that give white people all sorts of small and large advantages in life. Whiteness is the source of many privileges, which is one reason people have trouble giving it up. It is important to stress that to criticize whiteness is not necessarily to engage in a massive orchestration of guilt. Guilt is often a distracting and mistaken emotion, especially when it comes to race. White people are fond of pointing out that as individuals they have never practiced discrimination, or that their ancestors never owned slaves. White people tend to cast the question of race in terms of guilt in part because of the American ideology of individualism, by which I mean our tendency to want to believe that individuals determine their own destinies and responsibilities. In this sense it is un-American to insist that white Americans benefit every day from their whiteness, whether or not they intend to do so. But that is the reality. Guilt, then, has nothing to do with whiteness in this sense of benefitting from structural racism and built-in privileges. I may not intend anything racial when I apply for a loan, or walk into a store, or hail a cab, or ask for a job -- but in every circumstance my whiteness will play a role in the outcome, however "liberal" or "anti-racist" I imagine myself to be. White men have enormous economic advantages because of the disadvantages faced by women and minorities, no matter what any individual white men may intend. If discrimination means that fewer qualified applicants compete with you for the job, you benefit. You do not have to be a racist to benefit from being white. You just have to look the part.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Cut the Plagarism crap. I Posted that link a few times.If some of the people who saw me originally post it would have read it, instead of looking at the title and becoming instantly offended, then this wouldn't be an issue.
Symmetric_Chaos and Creshwhatever saw me post it and italicize the excerpt, yet they said nothing.
I have no reason to plagarize anything.
The accusations are a mere smokescreen.😐
Here's the link http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/Whitenesstalk.html
The Author.
http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Will you read it now?? Probably not.doped
"Whiteness, of course, is a delusion -- as the insane Captain Ahab of Moby Dick demonstrates. Scientists today agree that there is no such thing as "race," at least when analyzed in terms of genetics or behavioral variation. Every human population is a mongrel population, full of people descended from various places and with widely differing physical qualities"
Funny... because the only people who bring up "Whiteness", White Guilt", White Privilege" are the racist, who use it as the bogeyman for their own shortcomings.
Originally posted by Robtard
"Whiteness, of course, is a delusion -- as the insane Captain Ahab of Moby Dick demonstrates. Scientists today agree that there is no such thing as "race," at least when analyzed in terms of genetics or behavioral variation. Every human population is a mongrel population, full of people descended from various places and with widely differing physical qualities"Funny... because the only people who bring up "Whiteness", White Guilt", White Privilege" are the racist, who use it as the bogeyman for their own shortcomings.
Gregory Jay is White😐
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Gregory Jay covers this.
LOL...
"For white people, race functions as a large ensemble of practices and rules..."
Yea, because their are no privileges given to people based on their non-white skin tone, not do those said people differentiate themselves solely because of skin tone. Silly.
Originally posted by Robtard
LOL..."For white people, race functions as a large ensemble of practices and rules..."
Yea, because their are no privileges given to people based on their non-white skin tone, not do those said people differentiate themselves solely because of skin tone. Silly.
Yeah but why do non-whites get privileges?
Originally posted by Robtard
I used quotes... here's your smilie back 🙄
Not talking about you. 😐
Originally posted by Robtard
I know, you're point? Are you implying that he MUST BE RIGHT, because he's "White"?My point about these this board stands.
No but its likey the author isnt biased.
Originally posted by RobtardAgain, blaming people for what their ancestors did; does that sound right. Let's just say my greatx5 grandfather was a Spanish slave-boat captain; he traded and sometimes killed Africans for profit... Now, what does that have to do with me in 2007?
We do not disagree here at all. The thing is not to blame you for your ancestors (again, they may not even be your ancestors who had slaves and so on), but to recognize what is going on. To just say "Well, this is the situation at present. That's all that matters!" is silly.
That's like me coming in on Lion King after Mufasa died and seeing Simba chilling in the jungle with Nala. I don't know what the hell is going on. 😆
The point in explaining this is not to down white people. It is to gather an understanding to all people that we are people and race is a just not worth bringing up.
Originally posted by Robtard
Where is the huge conspiracy? I have yet to hear "Europeans did everything of value", I don't think even Hitler went that far; and he was a true supremacist.
Very, very good point. But here's the funny thing: you do not have to say it once the lies are there.
Example: Asians, Native Americans, certain Europeans and Africans were all polytheists. Currently, if you are not a person who believes in a monothesthic religion, one will likely disregard what you believe as not even a valid option for religion - it's all fantasy (although men parting seas, turning water to wine, talking to burning bushes, etc. sounds pretty fantasy-like to me but yea...).
Now if you take away the things they invented and basically make them all out as nomads (who were also not people of God and blah blah blah), the conclusions and underlying assumptions churn themselves out. The logic is dictated under a false truth.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but why do non-whites get privileges?Not talking about you. 😐
No but its likey the author isnt biased.
That can't be answered easily, but I would assume it's partly due to the delusion of "White guilt" created by racist. "You're great, great, great, great grandfather did something horrible to my great, great, great, great grandfather, so now YOU owe me.
😐
That wasn't the point, go read up what I said; to which reference.
Originally posted by Robtard
LOL..."For white people, race functions as a large ensemble of practices and rules..."
Yea, because their are no privileges given to people based on their non-white skin tone, not do those said people differentiate themselves solely because of skin tone. Silly.
The point is not just the skin tone. It is the fact that certain things are the way they are because of the situation of the minority or majority race but it is not just because they came out white.
Originally posted by Robtard
That can't be answered easily, but I would assume it's partly due to the delusion of "White guilt" created by racist. "You're great, great, great, great grandfather did something horrible to my great, great, great, great grandfather, so now YOU owe me.😐
Ok so in other words for example the reason why American Indians are **** ed up today has nothing to do with the fact about what happened in the past?
It is important to stress that to criticize whiteness is not necessarily to engage in a massive orchestration of guilt. Guilt is often a distracting and mistaken emotion, especially when it comes to race. White people are fond of pointing out that as individuals they have never practiced discrimination, or that their ancestors never owned slaves. White people tend to cast the question of race in terms of guilt in part because of the American ideology of individualism, by which I mean our tendency to want to believe that individuals determine their own destinies and responsibilities. In this sense it is un-American to insist that white Americans benefit every day from their whiteness, whether or not they intend to do so. But that is the reality.