Racism

Originally posted by Robtard
Not the point... point is "Anti-White attitudes are wrong, but understandable because of past actions'... that spiel; I call B.S. on it.

Ok lets put its this way. Why do you think they made the film American history X and why did they go into the guys past and history?

Originally posted by Robtard

Yea they do, just like any other community. Are they worse of than others though? Possible. No, I never said "there isn't a problem".

Wrong, I didn't say that. I brought up Obama awhile back as an example to counter FoTN's clownshoe rant about "Things are far worse off for blacks today!"

Well ok then....anyway im starting to feel tired. Anyway I still kinda get the impression that you are saying that the past doesnt matter and minorities dont have a right to complain. It because you say things like "Its in the past now."

Originally posted by chithappens
1) I'm sick of writing detailed paragraphs and getting a few sentences back.

2) My sources are in books and so to properly give citation will take all damn day.

One of the books is "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W. Loren.

I always check contradicting fats with others sources before I take it as true and it would take a while to give proof you trusted, I assume.

1) Sometimes a few sentences is enough, you respond the same sometimes

2) You made a wide claim, that "whites" hide the accomplishments of others, I asked for some specifics. "What is being hidden?". If you make a claim like that, be prepared to back it up.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok lets put its this way. Why do you think they made the film American history X and why did they go into the guys past and history

Well ok then....anyway im starting to feel tired. Anyway I still kinda get the impression that you are saying that the past doesnt matter and minorities dont have a right to complain. It because you say things like "Its in the past now."

To make a profit? They used his past to explain why he was a racist, not that it was justified. A black man killed his father, so all blacks are killers? Silly. What's sillier though, "White people owned slaves in the past, therefore all White people are shit."

The past does matter, I never said it didn't. What outright stupid is to claim the injustices of your ancestors as injustices on you. Rest well, I'm off to enjoy my Sunday.

Originally posted by Robtard
I said they make a profit, so they don't make a profit? I said American Indians are succesul in all walks of life, there are no American Indian doctors. lawyers and politicians?

Using the exception to the rule as an example is invalid. Just naming jobs of affluence is fallacy since, the way you worded it, if there were just a few (literal) Native American, doctors, lawyers, and politicians it would hold true.

It's like saying keep the NBA draft open to high schoolers because LeBron, Kobe, and Garnett could do it! But what about the thousands of high schoolers who put everything into basketball and failed?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did you click on the link or do I need to post uncle Ruckus's picture directly in the thread?

Yeah I did and?

Originally posted by Creshosk

So you're saying 2damn is the author?

No

Originally posted by Creshosk

I thought you were speaking out against him being accsued of plagiarism?

Yes.

Originally posted by Creshosk

I also find it funny that he said that it was justan excuse that GDF people weren't going to look at a closed thread in the comic book section.

And that he said that nobody made a fuss when he posted in that thread in itialics. Its almost like you two live in your own little world.

Its really simple if when you say plagrism. You mean he is taking somebodies work and passin it off on hiw own. If hes already posted tha damn link you can see thats not his intention, simple.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Anyay, being of a race and speaking out against it with racist remarks does not make those remakrs more credible. That point stands regardless of who you thought you were talking about.

Its unlikely that he would be racist against other white people being white himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
1) Sometimes a few sentences is enough, you respond the same sometimes

2) You made a wide claim, that "whites" hide the accomplishments of others, I asked for some specifics. "What is being hidden". If you make a claim like that, be prepared to back it up.

1) Certain responses are inadequate if a certain base of information is required. If I previously had said most of those things without background it would look like bullshit.

2) Here's a way to do this without lots of citing and all of that: Name the ancient European civilizations you know of.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Its unlikely that he would be racist against other white people being white himself.

Then again, you did just mention Uncle Ruckus 🤣

Originally posted by Robtard
To make a profit?

Oh for God sake!

Originally posted by Robtard

They used his past to explain why he was a racist, not that it was justified. A black man killed his father, so all blacks are killers? Silly. What's sillier though, "White people owned slaves in the past, therefore all White people are shit."

The whole bloody point was to make you UNDERSTAND why he did it. Nobodies saying it was right. If you were making the film it would have been half a minute long.

"This guy is a racist, he an *******."

I dont think all white people are ****, chit doesnt think that. I dont even think 2damn thinks that.

Originally posted by Robtard

The past does matter, I never said it didn't. What outright stupid is to claim the injustices of your ancestors as injustices on you. Rest well, I'm off to enjoy my Sunday.

I think you need to start being honest. If you say statments like "Its in the past now." and give examples of American Indian lawyers that implies that you think the past doesnt matter, thats the whole reason why you gave example of American Indian lawyers in the first place.

Chit makes another good point.

Originally posted by chithappens
Using the exception to the rule as an example is invalid. Just naming jobs of affluence is fallacy since, the way you worded it, if there were just a few (literal) Native American, doctors, lawyers, and politicians it would hold true.

It's like saying keep the NBA draft open to high schoolers because LeBron, Kobe, and Garnett could do it! But what about the thousands of high schoolers who put everything into basketball and failed?

Originally posted by chithappens
Then again, you did just mention Uncle Ruckus 🤣

I did? When? Thats a link Creshock posted...im lost.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Just b/c you don't like the definition of a term doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Caucasian is a term invented by whites, just like "airplane" or "train" or "building" or "skyscraper", but no one is stating that SIMPLY b/c it was invited by a white person, it therefore, doesn't exist. I think they have a right to define themselves (as I feel that people have a right to do that). The terms exist because there was an enlightening point in history in which (the intellectual mind of that time) their minds understood the difference, once they understood the difference, they tacted on a term for it after they studied it and are still studying it, it's the same way the intellectual class respondes to anything, they notice a difference, and study it's character and then, label or classify it. However, they have LEARNED and we have LEARNED to be a bit slower at classifying people the same way we do "things" or "abstract" ideas.

Ancient Egyptians were of different races, depending if it's the northern or southern part of Eygpt.

Pseduo-science is more like Phrenology, and that in itself has some elements of fake "science" but not all of it, the fact that not all of it passes the scientific theory makes that part "pseudo".

I want to add that "they" and "we" means the author of the terms we learn and the learner. I thought about expounding on it, but I wanted to see how others would react if they assumed to know what I meant (as some may think it's "racial" as in "us" and "them"😉.

Originally posted by Alfheim

I did? When? Thats a link Creshock posted...im lost.

😆 My mistake. I meant Ruckus came up, not that you said it

Originally posted by chithappens
😆 My mistake. I meant Ruckus came up, not that you said it

Grrrrr *puts chit in a headlock*

*gets out of headlock and does Stone Cold Stunner!!!! Then does the patented drunk ass yell in ur face!*

Originally posted by chithappens
*gets out of headlock and does Stone Cold Stunner!!!! Then does the patented drunk ass yell in ur face!*

...freak.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah I did and?

Its unlikely that he would be racist against other white people being white himself.

He's a character from the boondocks who is racist against black people, but is black himself.

Then we have Czarina here who claims to be black (with a white soul) and speaks out against black people.

Simply being of a race does not give credence to a person.

If you were to speak out against your own race you would not have more credibility for being the race you are.

Race=/=credibility regardless of the words spoken.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Do you even know who Uncle Ruckus is?

He's a character from the boondocks who is racist against black people, but is black himself.

Then we have Czarina here who claims to be black (with a white soul) and speaks out against black people.

Simply being of a race does not give credence to a person.

If you were to speak out against your own race you would not have more credibility for being the race you are.

Race=/=credibility regardless of the words spoken.

I dont watch the boondocks. Anyway I said it was unlikely. Czarina is mad.

Hehe, at least it was not the People's Elbow! That's even worse

Originally posted by chithappens
Hehe, at least it was not the People's Elbow! That's even worse

Stonecold Stunner? People's Elbow....what are these words you're using. 😏

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont watch the boondocks. Anyway I said it was unlikely. Czarina is mad.

But why would they not have more credibility? They are black and they're speaking out against blacks. Doesn't that mean that it is unlikely that they're just racist, and are actually more objective on the subject?

If you say no you're setting up a nice double standard or need to drop the "he's more objective cause he's white BS.". If you say yes, then you're just as crazy as they are.

Originally posted by Creshosk
As is uncle Ruckus.

But why would they not have more credibility? They are black and they're speaking out against blacks. Doesn't that mean that it is unlikely that they're just racist, and are actually more objective on the subject?

Well this is the thing. I havnet watched the boondocks maybe theres a good reason. Hell Chris Rock did a stand up and it was called "Black people vs N*****", because he was black he was more qualified to talk about the subject and was more objective.

Originally posted by Creshosk

If you say no you're setting up a nice double standard or need to drop the "he's more objective cause he's white BS.". If you say yes, then you're just as crazy as they are.

What the hell are you moaning about now?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Stonecold Stunner? People's Elbow....what are these words you're using. 😏

Fine! Act like I'm the only lame one on here! 😆

Originally posted by Creshosk
As is uncle Ruckus.

But why would they not have more credibility? They are black and they're speaking out against blacks. Doesn't that mean that it is unlikely that they're just racist, and are actually more objective on the subject?

If you say no you're setting up a nice double standard or need to drop the "he's more objective cause he's white BS.". If you say yes, then you're just as crazy as they are.

No. Race is a factor in opinion because people are quick to say "Oh he's black. Must be bias." You are going to be influenced by what is around you but if you can see problems on each side, one looks more objective which is were race is not a factor; hence, some people surprised I'm not like, "**** the machine!"