Racism

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Again, why?

Well, you have two "racist" groups of blacks, and you have MAAAAAAANY more historical instances of Eurocentric versions of racism.

White flight is a prime example of a huge form of racism amongst whites.

Pre-integration, it was mostly Blacks who spearheaded charging this nation to live up to it's creed of equality, some whites were involved as well. That still doesn't change the fact that post integration whites moved away from blacks, most likely because they were racist.

That example of White Flight is not a racist group, it's apart of White American culture and American culture.

It's a historical fact.

Racism is as American as Apple Pie😐

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=white+flight

OMG, it's in the dictionary.shocklaugh

Racism isn't exclusive to America, you racist.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So now its not most whites are racist but mst racists are white...

And I think he's still calling ME racist for pointing oput the existence of a character based on an offensive stereotype. I'm not sure how I did or am upholding it when I'm calling it racist and offensive. I'm speaking out against it. Maybe he's mad that there were similaritties pointed out between the offensive character and the fictional character he has a hard on for. So he's nothing more than a bitter little fanboy whos smarting over his favorite character being insulted.

You're not speaking aout about it's application.

You said Mammy is THE stereotypical Black woman.

If you can't see what's wrong with that, then........ 😕

You don't fully understand what Mammy stands for, therfore you justify it's application to black women.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You're not speaking aout about it's application.

You said Mammy is THE stereotypical Black woman.

If you can't see what's wrong with that, then........ 😕

You don't fully understand what Mammy stands for, therfore you justify it's application to black women.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Racism isn't exclusive to America, you racist.

Did I ever say that?? 😕 🙄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Did I ever say that?? 😕 🙄

All you did is rabbit on about American culture.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Again, why?

Well, you have two "racist" groups of blacks, and you have MAAAAAAANY more historical instances of Eurocentric versions of racism.

White flight is a prime example of a huge form of racism amongst whites.

Pre-integration, it was mostly Blacks who spearheaded charging this nation to live up to it's creed of equality, some whites were involved as well. That still doesn't change the fact that post integration whites moved away from blacks, most likely because they were racist.

That example of White Flight is not a racist group, it's apart of White American culture and American culture.

It's a historical fact.

Racism is as American as Apple Pie😐

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=white+flight

OMG, it's in the dictionary.shocklaugh

Circling... You when copy/pasted parts of the article, people pointed out it's flaws.

Wait, you just just said that racist aren't exclusive to "groups", now you're using the existence of groups to prove that "most racist are white"? You're countering your own points. Dumb.

Racism exist everywhere and it isn't "color" specific.

Your point? "Doh" is in the dictionary too.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/14/english.newwords/

Main Entry: white flight
Function: noun
: the departure of whites from places (as urban neighborhoods or schools) increasingly or predominantly populated by minorities

How is that "racist" as fact?

Originally posted by Robtard
Circling... You when copy/pasted parts of the article, people pointed out it's flaws.

Wait, you just just said that racist aren't exclusive to "groups", now you're using the existence of groups to prove that "most racist are white"? You're countering your own points. Dumb.

Racism exist everywhere and it isn't "color" specific.

Are you dumb??

When did you answer those specific questions of "why, why, why"??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Are you dumb??

When did you answer those specific questions of "why, why, why"??

Yes, I obviously am, I am playing your little games.

You did post parts of his article to prove your point, people did respond and "critique" it, you call it slander. The pages are there.

If you want to play little games, which "Why" are you referring to specifically?

BTW, what about your "racist groups/most racist are white" rant? You're countering your own argument.

"You said Mammy is THE stereotypical Black woman."

And stereotypes are bad. What's your point? I said STEREOtypical not typical. From the dictionary:

Main Entry: 2stereotype
Function: noun
Etymology: French stéréotype, from stéré- stere- + type
1 : a plate cast from a printing surface
2 : something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment

Stereotypes are bad. Can you think of any other stereotypical black woman?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Are you dumb??

When did you answer those specific questions of "why, why, why"??

Originally posted by Schecter
"Ignore, Bait, Ignore, Bait....etc."

this happens when someone makes a thread, mostly of an asinine theory/demand/opinion which has gaping holes from the get-go. when a genuine and valid point is brought up which possible renders their point moot, they will simply ignore it. after ignoring it they will ask the same question, often directly at the person they ignored.

at this point you can either paste your previous response or take the time to paraphrase yourself. either way it doesnt matter, as you will likely be ignored again...and then asked again.

this tactic works hand in hand with "Reversal of Blame"

often times they will put any negativity/off-topic posting/flaming/sarcasm etc under a microscope and divert the topic to just that, in an attempt to push the thread to its next page, apparently in an attempt to... 'sweep it under the rug'.

:edit: gaping holes teehee

Next time I get a minute, I will address two questions posed earlier:

Chaos: Why does the past matter today (in terms of the lies and such)?

Robtard: What are the factual errors being told?

Again, my sources are books so that means to cite I have to type whatever it is. Annoying as hell but I will do it.

The posts answering both will be long winded and I might not have time to do either today, but at the question concerning the past will be addressed by Tuesday. The other by Thursday.

Look heres what I think. I dont think all whites are racist and I dont think most whites are racist.

As for article this is what I gathered:

There is still alot of racism this is evident in the fact minorities are still worse off than white people. This stems from times when racism was alot worse. The problem is that white people (not all) wont admit that there is still inequality (where the roots of inequality happened in the past) and this causes the problem to persist.

😐

White people doing so much better is not really true. If taking into total numbers, poor whites easily eclipse poor people of other races. White people are getting ****ed over also but that starts the class discussion.

Originally posted by chithappens
White people doing so much better is not really true. If taking into total numbers, poor whites easily eclipse poor people of other races. White people are getting ****ed over also but that starts the class discussion.

Yeah that is true but I thought the article was saying that white are doing better.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah that is true but I thought the article was saying that white are doing better.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If the srticle says whites are doing better when they're not, wouldn't that be a factual error of the article?

I was under the impression that they were but of course that does not apply to all white people. I was under the impression that the American Indian community for example was less succesful than the white community in general.

Acctually alot of the Native American Communities and nations out there have been taking care of themselves pretty well. Nations like the Lakota, Iroquois and Navajo have treaties and the like with the American Government towards respect of their land, religions, and the like. I know that the Mohawk (another tribe of the Iroquois nation) has a treaty pact with the state of New York to protect their sacred burial grounds.

But as to the American Indian's not being as successful as the white communities well...success all depends on the person. I know of lots of Navajo and Utes out here (i'm in Utah btw) that are really well off. The unfortunate thing about being Native american is that once someone finds out (that's not NA) they start playing off the steryotypes of like Hyawatha and doing that stupid obobobobo thing with their mouth and doing the bunny ears as feathers in your hair crap...THAT'S annoying.

But I digress. For the NA we acctually do go and do rather well for ourselves mostly because we take care of our own.

Originally posted by Onitsu
Acctually alot of the Native American Communities and nations out there have been taking care of themselves pretty well. Nations like the Lakota, Iroquois and Navajo have treaties and the like with the American Government towards respect of their land, religions, and the like. I know that the Mohawk (another tribe of the Iroquois nation) has a treaty pact with the state of New York to protect their sacred burial grounds.

But as to the American Indian's not being as successful as the white communities well...success all depends on the person. I know of lots of Navajo and Utes out here (i'm in Utah btw) that are really well off. The unfortunate thing about being Native american is that once someone finds out (that's not NA) they start playing off the steryotypes of like Hyawatha and doing that stupid obobobobo thing with their mouth and doing the bunny ears as feathers in your hair crap...THAT'S annoying.

But I digress. For the NA we acctually do go and do rather well for ourselves mostly because we take care of our own.

Well ok, but maybe it depends on your experiences. Maybe another American Indian will say something different, but I will take on board what you said.

According to chithappens NA still have alot of problems.

Some black communities in America do well for themselves. Others are **** ed but I still got the impression black people are worse off overall for example 60 percent of the prison population in the US are minorities....theres something wrong with that.

http://crime.about.com/od/prison/a/bjs040720.htm

An estimated 12 percent of all black males in their twenties were in jails or prisons last June 30, as were an estimated 3.7 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males in that age group. Sixty-eight percent of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups.

Originally posted by Alfheim
http://crime.about.com/od/prison/a/bjs040720.htm

An estimated[B] 12 percent of all black males in their twenties were in jails or prisons last June 30, as were an estimated 3.7 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males in that age group. Sixty-eight percent of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups. [/B]

Using the retard-like logic commonly seen by FoTN and the other ranting racist in these threads, we can assume that "black males" have a "genetic" disposition towards crime, and that not all "blacks" are criminals, but most criminals are "black". *Honks Red Rubber Nose*

Originally posted by Alfheim
http://crime.about.com/od/prison/a/bjs040720.htm

An estimated[B] 12 percent of all black males in their twenties were in jails or prisons last June 30, as were an estimated 3.7 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males in that age group. Sixty-eight percent of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups. [/B]

A smaller percent of a large number is sometimes larger than a larger percent of a smaller number.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html
12% of 37,909,341 = 4,549,120.92 of Black people
1.6% of 237,854,954 = 3,805,679.26 of White people
3.7% of 42 687 224 = 1,579,427.29 of Hispanic people

This isn't fixed for the age range in question. The gap between the black to whites is about 743,441.66, the gap from whites to hispanics is 2,226,251.97

Here's another fun one:
Sixty-eight percent of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups.
Meaning that 32% are White. Now looking at the way the U.S. Government categorizes the different races that means that that 68% is divided among 7 other racial categories. Even assuming that the 68% is divided evenly that means that each non-white racial or ethnic group has about 10%(9.7142857142857142857142857142857)

Off of that there would be 10% of the prison and jail inmates would be black compared to the 32% that are white.

hmm