Originally posted by 2damnloud
There's like one or two "racist" Black groups--The NOI and Black Panthers??Does that make you happy? 😱
so in order to be a racist you must be a card carrying member of a racist organisation? since you use this wiki article (pathetic in and of itself) about white supremacy movements as proof that most whites are racist, that is all that can be deducted. dance for me twinkletoes
Originally posted by 2damnloud
😆 @ his views automatically being deemed negative.Everytime someone of ANY color makes a critique based on historical fact as it relates to us as a nation/world, and said facts just do happen to revolve around a race paradigm(set into motion by the founders of this country, and even further back than that), why is said someone automatically deemed a "racist"??
If a man speaks up about patriarchy, is he then self-loathing?? 😕
It's foolishness, really.
If the author was Black, he'd be deemed a "Black racist"(the worst kind). But since he is white, he must be self-hating.
This is why we can never move on.--The inability to take an honest critique.
This rings true more and more:
I haven't called the author racist, so better shelf that *smilie* for another rainy day.
Critiques aren't always factual or justified... I can make bullshit critiques all day, should you listen to them simply because they're "critiques"? No, you shouldn't.
Dumb... That author can't be labeled a racist, because he is white, how can 'you' be racist against yourself? He can be labeled other things though.
There you go, playing the martyr, "Black racist are the worst kind! waa waaa!", racist are racist. I wasn't the one trying to justify one aspect of racism (black) while condemning the other (white), other people were desperately trying to make those excuses/distinctions.
You're correct above the "can't move on" though, if people want to hold on to hatred from 100+ years ago.
Originally posted by Schecter
so in order to be a racist you must be a card carrying member of a racist organisation? since you use this wiki article (pathetic in and of itself) about white supremacy movements as proof that most whites are racist, that is all that can be deducted. dance for me twinkletoes
Where did I say that?? 😕
And that wiki article is NOT about "white supremacy movements".
Go and read it. 🙄
Originally posted by Robtard
I haven't called the author racist, so better shelf that *smilie* for another rainy day.Critiques aren't always factual or justified... I can make bullshit critiques all day, should you listen to them simply because they're "critiques"? No, you shouldn't.
Dumb... That author can't be labeled a racist, because he is white, how can 'you' be racist against yourself? He can be labeled other things though.
There you go, playing the martyr, "Black racist are the worst kind! waa waaa!", racist are racist. I wasn't the one trying to justify one aspect of racism (black) while condemning the other (white), other people were desperately trying to make those excuses/distinctions.
You're correct above the "can't move on" though, if people want to hold on to hatred from 100+ years ago.
No clear perameters are given for the critique being not factual and unjustified.
No perameters are given for Gregory Jay being a racist or self-loathing.
As it stands, people are getting pissed and slandering the man just because he ventured to go there in the first place. 😘
Originally posted by 2damnloud
As it stands, people are getting pissed and slandering the man just because he ventured to go there. in the first place. 😘
after calling someone a racist and insisting that they support and encourage racist stereotypes just for acknowledging that they exist, you're of no credibility to point out slander, or even know what it means.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
No clear perameters are given for the critique being not factual and unjustified.No perameters are given for Gregory Jay being a racist or self-loathing.
As it stands, people are getting pissed and slandering the man just because he ventured to go there in the first place. 😘
Circling are we? Whenever you copy and pasted a piece of his article to prove your point, I and others have responded and shown it for it's outright silliness.
So "critiquing" his work is now "slandering"? You clown.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
There's like one or two "racist" Black groups--The NOI and Black Panthers??Does that make you happy? 😱
Curious... do you think racist only exist in groups?
Originally posted by Robtard
Circling are we? Whenever you copy and pasted a piece of his article to prove your point, I and others have responded and shown it for it's outright silliness.So "critiquing" his work is now "slandering"? You clown.
When did you ever say why he's racist, why his views are racist, and why he is self-loathing??
Originally posted by RobtardCurious... do you think racist only exist in groups?
Nope, those are just the most prominent examples that people usually bring up when stating that blacks can be racist too.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
When did you ever say why he's racist, why his views are racist, and why he is self-loathing??
He CAN'T be a racist against himself, he's white, but he can be an illogical ranting clown. He could also just be wrong, it happens, not everything you read is true or based on facts.
REPEAT: So "critiquing" his work is now "slandering"?
Originally posted by 2damnloud Nope, those are just the most prominent examples that people usually bring up when stating that blacks can be racist, too.
Then why bring it up to prove your point about racist being mostly white because of a few white-racist groups?
Originally posted by 2damnloud
I thought it over and most white people are not racist. But most racist are white.
"I thought it over and most black people are not thieves. But most thieves are black"
You know, since we're making wild foolish generalizations and we don't have to have the burden of proof.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
When did you ever say why he's racist, why his views are racist, and why he is self-loathing??Nope, those are just the most prominent examples that people usually bring up when stating that blacks can be racist, too.
slander is the act of spreading a malicious rumor/lie in an attemt to defame one's character. offering up a harsh opinion/critique is not slander. speculating one's motivation is not slander. slander is a lie stated as fact, not an opinion that you just dont like. as i said, you dont know the meaning of the ****ing word.
Originally posted by AlfheimYes, otherwise I wouldn't have known that he said those things for me to be calling him what I am. When 2damndumb posted it in the hudlin thread I ignored him because he didn't post the article in quotes or cite his source. And it was obviously taken from somewhere since it was a full essay, and 2damndumb only ever responds with a couple of sentences.
*sigh* I might respond to your post later by the way Creshosk did you read the article?
So now its not most whites are racist but mst racists are white...
Good heavens. I put him on ignore but I can still see his posts from other people tearing into him, and it seems he was trying to dodge being called a racist but still fouled up. You can still see he has an agenda against white people. No wonder he's humping that article so hard. Its a white person saying negative things about white people. So now he can hide behind the author's skin color to justify his racist attitude.
And I think he's still calling ME racist for pointing oput the existence of a character based on an offensive stereotype. I'm not sure how I did or am upholding it when I'm calling it racist and offensive. I'm speaking out against it. Maybe he's mad that there were similaritties pointed out between the offensive character and the fictional character he has a hard on for. So he's nothing more than a bitter little fanboy whos smarting over his favorite character being insulted.
Originally posted by Robtard
He CAN'T be a racist against himself, he's white, but he can be an illogical ranting clown. He could also just be wrong, it happens, not everything you read is true or based on facts.REPEAT: So "critiquing" his work is now "slandering"?
Again, why?
Originally posted by RobtardThen why bring it up to prove your point about racist being mostly white because of a few white-racist groups?
"I thought it over and most black people are not thieves. But most thieves are black"
You know, since we're making wild foolish generalizations and we don't have to have the burden of proof.
Well, you have two "racist" groups of blacks, and you have MAAAAAAANY more historical instances of Eurocentric versions of racism.
White flight is a prime example of a huge form of racism amongst whites.
Pre-integration, it was mostly Blacks who spearheaded charging this nation to live up to it's creed of equality, some whites were involved as well. That still doesn't change the fact that post integration whites moved away from blacks, most likely because they were racist.
That example of White Flight is not a racist group, it's apart of White American culture and American culture.
It's a historical fact.
Racism is as American as Apple Pie😐
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=white+flight
OMG, it's in the dictionary.shocklaugh