Originally posted by AlfheimWell he wants to keep going back in history saying that he has this blood in him and trying to make a distention that “they” are different why would it only stop there?
yeah yeah yeah we know that, but when somebody says they are african descent thats not what they mean.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
When you return to the caucus muontains i'll catch the first flight to Zimbabwe.This land belongs does not to White for it is stolen property raped by brute force. The U.S. is a stolen, blood dreached land which isn't origin to any Whites.
Whites want Blacks to go back to Africa when they brought us here.
I have no problem living on land that hundreds of years ago belonged to a people who SWEAR that they have no sense of ownership... (🙂)
you said human rights were there to keep white people in power. My suggestion is to go to a nation where there are no such human rights. You may choose an African nation if you really want, but I was thinking something more along the lines of China, Russia, Burma, or most middle eastern or south-east Asian nations.
I don't really care about your skin colour, and I welcome any people of any race who put down human rights to do the same thing. Please, if being "ruled" by "whites" and having individual freedoms is so bad, get the **** out.
/sigh
Originally posted by Alfheim
Please elaborate.
ummm...
1 all land is conquered land, Natives would have taken territory from eachother in conflict
2 at least in North America, we are fed a lot of nonsense about how Natives were these mega naturalpathic, mega sustainable awesome communities where everyone shared everything and there were no problems. Clearly this isn't true and very clearly Natives had a sense of ownership.
3 Native sense of ownership has little to do with land claims since most claims are over treaties signed with the British, where ownership is very explicitly stated in legally binding terms.
4 smilie face emotes normally denote a sense of sarcasm
Originally posted by Alfheim
Its alot more recent and the American Indians are still being oppressed.
There is this guy in Southern Ontario named Sean Brent who has released some stuff on the internet that sounds shockingly similar to other extremeist stuff. He claims that there are no innocent Canadian civilians and that they need to start action to destroy the government and the economy. Him and a bunch of others have shut down highways and rainlines already.
As far as oppression goes, the major issue with the natives now is one of motivation. Sure, there are some cases like out in Calgary where there is clear systemic abuse, and there may be some prejudice in the system all over, but when a high school full of native kids has 0 make it past grade 11, that is not a matter of oppression. Natives need to get their act together.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Its alot more recent and the American Indians are still being oppressed.
America is NOT special in what it has done. It's the same as just about every country in the world. And it is definitely not 'more recent' than other horrors. We are simply at the forefront of everyone's newspaper and television broadcast, so everything we do is blown out of proportion. Learn a little more about the world.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Really? What about the Germans, who killed 12,000,000 people in less than a decade? Or the Japanese who murdered between 3 and 12,000,000 from 1937 and 1945 alone? Or Soviet Russia, who through trials and confiscation of food caused over 10,000,000 deaths?? Croatia, who murdered half a million Serbs? Or in Australia, who about 50 years ago, took roughly 100,000 aboriginal children from their parents in an attempt to make aboriginales die out? Rwanda, who murdered 1,000,000 people in tribal genocide, in less than a third of a year?America is NOT special in what it has done. It's the same as just about every country in the world. And it is definitely not 'more recent' than other horrors. We are simply at the forefront of everyone's newspaper and television broadcast, so everything we do is blown out of proportion.
Yeah so? They were terrible also doesnt take away what I said. I dont know when I said me recent its obvoulsy relative. Im pretty bloody sure there must have been persecution in the 60s which stemed from earlier times....so yeah when you think about it is very recent because its still going on today!
Originally posted by Kinneary
Learn a little more about the world.
Oh really. So I didnt know about what happened in Rawanda or Croatia? Hey you know what I know what Japan did in China and most of the other stuff you mentioned. Dont patronise me.
Oh and for the record im not racist like FOTN I was just adding my 2cents.
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Exactly how?
I was just under the impression that Natives were ebing oppressed until quite recently. Hell im bloody sure there must have been oprrssion as late as the 60s and even today.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah so? They were terrible also doesnt take away what I said. I dont know when I said me recent its obvoulsy relative. Im pretty bloody sure there must have been persecution in the 60s which stemed from earlier times....so yeah when you think about it is very recent because its still going on today!
Oh really. So I didnt know about what happened in Rawanda or Croatia? Hey you know what I know what Japan did in China and most of the other stuff you mentioned. Dont patronise me.
I was just under the impression that Natives were ebing oppressed until quite recently. Hell im bloody sure there must have been oprrssion as late as the 60s and even today.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Right here:
Bro thats just the way I talk sometimes. Sometimes I just say I dunno when I begin a sentence.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah so? They were terrible also doesnt take away what I said. I dont know
Thats supposed to be I dunno
Originally posted by Alfheim
when I said me recent its obvoulsy relative.
The me is a typos its supposed to be most.
😐
Read it again....it ends with obvoulsy relative...im trying to say when I said most recently its obvoulsy reletive 😐
I think I know whats next.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Examples?
Originally posted by inimalist
Sure, there are some cases like out in Calgary where there is clear systemic abuse, and there may be some prejudice in the system all over,
Originally posted by Kinneary
Then why do you think that America is worse or different from any other country?
I dindt say it was.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Oppression happens to blacks, whites, asians, and yes, american indians. In every country, all over the world. But I'd like to see proof of mass discrimination againt american indians in America today.
Er I dont think there is. 😐 but im sure there is still some opression going obvoulsy things arent as bad as they used to be, but what are you trying to tell me everyting is fine and dandy?
Originally posted by AlfheimThis is why punctuation is helpful if used accurately.
Bro thats just the way I talk sometimes.Thats supposed to be I dunno
The me is a typos its supposed to be most.
😐Read it again....it ends with obvoulsy relative...im trying to say when I said most recently its obvoulsy reletive 😐
I think I know whats next.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah so? They were terrible also doesnt take away what I said. I dont know when I said me recent its obvoulsy relative. Im pretty bloody sure there must have been persecution in the 60s which stemed from earlier times....so yeah when you think about it is very recent because its still going on today!
It would depend on your meaning of oppression, but I certainly wouldn't even remotely compare the state programs in North America that were ment to try and integrate the native populations (if they did totally fail) to any of the other massacres in the 20th century.
You really just compared the Canadian Government to the Nazis, the Rwandan genociders, or Slobadon Melosivich.
Natives do have genuine grievences, but the genocide and murder ended hundreds of years ago.
Originally posted by inimalist
It would depend on your meaning of oppression, but I certainly wouldn't even remotely compare the state programs in North America that were ment to try and integrate the native populations (if they did totally fail) to any of the other massacres in the 20th century.You really just compared the Canadian Government to the Nazis, the Rwandan genociders, or Slobadon Melosivich.
Natives do have genuine grievences, but the genocide and murder ended hundreds of years ago.
No no no no no no. What I was trying to say is that lots of American Indians have been killed in the past and there is still some oppression that stemed from that period goin on today.
I was under the impression that Native had it easier in Canada, if they git it bad in some place in Canada how bad is it gonna be in America?
Im not comparing Canada to the Nazis at all, thats taking what I said out of context.