Originally posted by StylishSmurph
Also...I'm pretty sure that they're trying to have Spot do exactly what Blink was banned for (teleporting crap inside people... OHKO, much?)...
And by pretty sure, I mean I'm positive.
That chalks up two characters banned in one OP. Must be some kind of record. 👆
As for the spot strategy, there's a slight but very important difference. Blinks attack automatically moves stuff inside the other object. The spot thing is simply attacking through the portal which we happen to target inside them, so really it has to be a two shot attack that gains power because of the combination rather than one single component.
Also at Cresh, the idea that the dracula novel is somehow canon to Hellsing is freaking ridiculous. It's a completely different world with completely different rules than those that are found in that novel. They simply don't apply to each other.
To be quite honest I'm starting to get really pissed about the way people are trying to get our characters thrown out for random abilities that we've never even attempted to use, and based on all reasonable readings of the manga, can't use.
Originally posted by Akuki"We open a spot portal beside his medula oblongata and fire..."
You know we checked with Illadelph and Seras isn't banned.As for the spot strategy, there's a slight but very important difference. Blinks attack automatically moves stuff inside the other object. The spot thing is simply attacking through the portal which we happen to target inside them, so really it has to be a two shot attack that gains power because of the combination rather than one single component.
OHKO ftw. 👆
Originally posted by StylishSmurph
"We open a spot portal beside his medula oblongata and fire..."OHKO ftw. 👆
Originally posted by AkukiNo, because a spot portal inside someone is a OHKO... what do you think happens if someone moves while having a spot portal inside them? Heart skips over to the spot dimension? Bye bye lungs?
Simple, it's not a one hit k.o. it's a two hit. the issue with Blinks attack was that hers was unavoidable and took them out with a single attack. Ours requires two seperate attacks, and therefore is still legal. (the spot portal, and then the fire attack)
Also, this should be categorized under "no loopholes" anyways...
Originally posted by AkukiVolume 4 of the Hellsing manga. Abraham remarks that Mina had been freed from the Count's grasp, just as she was in the novel. The event's of the original Dracula are canon.
Also at Cresh, the idea that the dracula novel is somehow canon to Hellsing is freaking ridiculous. It's a completely different world with completely different rules than those that are found in that novel. They simply don't apply to each other.
Quit ****ing using other people's ignorace as a defense against your wrong doing. The only reason she ISN'T banned was because you NEVER got Alucard's memories. So you have a plausible argument that she wouldn't know if she had the same mind control power.
That's right, I'm NOT ignorant of Manga and NOT willing to turn a blind eye to banned abilities.
Originally posted by Akukino loopholes. OHKO refers to the speed and efficiency not litterally being "one step"
Simple, it's not a one hit k.o. it's a two hit. the issue with Blinks attack was that hers was unavoidable and took them out with a single attack. Ours requires two seperate attacks, and therefore is still legal. (the spot portal, and then the fire attack)
IT can be argued by adding more steps to any OHKO to make it not litterally one hit.
Blink needed to throw her teleportation javelin at the sand, spot needs to open the portal.
The sand is teleported into the person, whatever Spot tries to teleport into the person is teleported into the person.
Look at that we made Blink's banned OHKO into a two-shot.
How about concentrating and aiming the javelin? now Blink's OHKO takes four steps.
"We didn't do anything wrong" my ass.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Volume 4 of the Hellsing manga. Abraham remarks that Mina had been freed from the Count's grasp, just as she was in the novel. The event's of the original Dracula are canon.Quit ****ing using other people's ignorace as a defense against your wrong doing. The only reason she ISN'T banned was because you NEVER got Alucard's memories. So you have a plausible argument that she wouldn't know if she had the same mind control power.
That's right, I'm NOT ignorant of Manga and NOT willing to turn a blind eye to banned abilities.
I myself forced Blair to not use his spots for a safe zone. I argued it constituted self-BFR if he used the spot realm to transport himself. He pulled some BS that Spot can make point to point portals without going through the spot realm inbetween. Which he didn't really prove, because we're not sure when going through a portal doesn't include the spot world.
Heh. Didn't I tell you all back when this tournament started? Seras should have been banned. And to think you all dicked around almost getting Jotaro banned. 😉
Originally posted by AkukiI'm not, you are now.
Yeah she was freaking freed because he was turning her into a vampire, and they killed him before he could complete the process. All subvampires are completely obedient to the vampire that created them, it's completely different than what we're suggesting, so maybe you should stop trying to take advantage of people's lack of knowledge of classic literature 😛
The story diverges a little at the end, but the events are still canon.
Seras needs to be banned if she has Alucard's memories. Mind Control, No loopholes, no neutering.
3 rules.
You know what, I'm getting f***ing tired of the complaints over Seras. We honestly haven't done anything with her that breaks the caps set in this tournament.
We informed you guys up front of her ability to absorb other people. The only reason she's been so goddamn powerful in our battles is the fact that there have been amazingly powerful people around for her to absorb.
In her base form she simply doesn't break any caps. However the main reason we chose her is because she a character that with the proper prep can be amped very very quickly.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not, you are now.The story diverges a little at the end, but the events are still canon.
Seras needs to be banned if she has Alucard's memories. Mind Control, No loopholes, no neutering.
3 rules.
Lets be honest where in all of the Dracula novel did Dracula show mind control abilities?
Originally posted by AkukiIt's not the caps, its that banned abilities remain banned.
You know what, I'm getting f***ing tired of the complaints over Seras. We honestly haven't done anything with her that breaks the caps set in this tournament.
Originally posted by AkukiIt's not the meshing that's an issue, its the fact that you gain a banned ability.
We informed you guys up front of her ability to absorb other people. The only reason she's been so goddamn powerful in our battles is the fact that there have been amazingly powerful people around for her to absorb.
Originally posted by Akukiand can gain abilities which are banned, thus getting the character banned. it's NOT the caps, its not her stength, its not her durability, its the mind control. Your only defense was that shoe wouldn't know she has it, but with Alucard's memories she most certainly would know it. It was NOT added in from the hellsing orginization. ITs was with him back when he was dracula. This is another red herring like what the democrats tried to use when Clinton was impeached. He wasn't impeached for getting a blowjob, he was impeached for perjury. Quit trying to distract the issue by saying that the problem is something that's not a problem.
In her base form she simply doesn't break any caps. However the main reason we chose her is because she a character that with the proper prep can be amped very very quickly.
She would gain a banned ability. And thus become banned.
Originally posted by AkukiYou have GOT to be ****ing kidding me... You never even read the novel. That or this is another cute poloy of yours. Either way knock it the **** off you're really starting to piss me off. Quit insulting my intelligence with these lies.
Lets be honest where in all of the Dracula novel did Dracula show mind control abilities?
Originally posted by Creshosk
You have GOT to be ****ing kidding me... You never even read the novel. That or this is another cute poloy of yours. Either way knock it the **** off you're really starting to piss me off. Quit insulting my intelligence with these lies.
No, I have read the novel, and I would honestly like your answer. Because all the circumstances I remember were instances where they fell under his control because he was in the process of turning them into vampires, not instances of mind control.
Originally posted by AkukiAre you seriously ****ing suggesting that Count Dracula whom hypnotizes people so they don't struggle or panic when he bites them, who uses this to initially control the women including mina doesn't have mind control powers?
No, I have read the novel, and I would honestly like your answer. Because all the circumstances I remember were instances where they fell under his control because he was in the process of turning them into vampires, not instances of mind control.
As I said you're either still trying to pull some bullshit tactic or you have NOT read the book. Mind control and hypnosis have been longstanding traits of Dracula.
So no, quit the BS...
Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...Nightcrawler is a gray area. On his own he would never OHK a living being, just as Gambit wouldn't charge a living being and blow them up, and banning a character due to a possible outcome from amalgamation (mixing Kurt with a villain's mindset) isn't an avenue I'd like to go down because I don't want to start banning possible amalgamation outcomes.
Blink was banned due to the fact that on panel, of her own volition, she has used he powers to surgically slice up a living person, and no one at this level has a defense for it. 616 Nightcrawler has never done that to my knowledeg. That's the distinction between the two. However, the rule is no neutering, even self imposed neutering. If evidence can be shown of 616 Kurt purposely dismembering an organic being via his teleportation he'd be banned instantly. Period. Otherwise, we'll assume that 616 Kurt (and Spot) simply doesn't have the ability (to dismember [b]organic
beings) due to lack of evidence, and that ability is formally, of course, banned anyway via The OHK Rule. This isn't neutering of Kurt (or Spot), if any of you find a scan of 616 Nightcrawler (or Spot) severing off a body part from a living being he'll be removed. [/B]
Spot has NEVER did that under his own volution (though he has opened portals inside objects, but not inside living beings). As Illadelph said, amalgamations aren't bannable.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=469760&pagenumber=111
Originally posted by StylishSmurph
Jesus christ... sorry there was such a huge delay. Lack of communication, busy schedules, screwy time zones, finals, etc.Anyways, my write-up is in now. Of course I didn't even visit Zod, much less read write-ups, before hand.
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Yeah, sorry 'bout that.... 😮
Who is Charles 1606 btw?